Fear of Pornotube

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Biggy

My shit already gets ripped off through websites like metacafe - full members area videos. We send C&Ds, they get ignored. I am already looking into legal action.

AEBN has a responsibility to regulate the content. As a content producer, as long as my content doesn't show up on their site in long form, then I have no hate or arguments against it. I give credit to AEBN, its a great idea (just as xPeeps is), as long as it doesn't become an outlet for abusive piracy. With user uploaded content, what is AEBN going to do if someone uploads 20 minutes of video that I paid to make. I think that is the main concern. Piracy is a big deal, not to be trivialized.

We fight the same battles. We spend lots of time and money producing exclusive content. And I let very little of it out for free. So when I find it posted, I react quickly.

For U.S. based hosts, DMCA will usually get the job done. If a fly by night host ignores you, go upstream til you find one that wont.

Now of course with that said, eastern europe cant be controlled nor can peer to peer. And the reality is there's a large percentage of surfers out there who will never pay for porn on the net. You cant force 'em. Best you can do is try to keep them from spreading your content easily to those who might actually reach for their wallet.

[JR]

first pop ups were going to kill porn
then exit consoles were going to kill porn
then spam was going to kill porn
then cp was going to kill porn
then credit card scams were going to kill porn
then the new laws everyone feared was coming was going to kill porn
then tgp's and mgp's were going to kill porn
then amateur sites/free sites from amateurs with digital cameras was going to kill porn
then visa was going to kill porn
then then p2p networks were going to kill porn
then google video search (and others) was going to kill porn
then bush/republicans were going to kill porn
now pornotube.com is going to kill porn

did i leave any out? i'm sure many can add to the list.

everyone has a right to be concerned or the right to an opinion. i dont really have one other than that porn is more resiliant than anyone gives it credit for. porn isn't going away and in a free market economy, will always be paid for.

if history has taught us anything, its that protesting against what others are doing changes nothing and only allows those who quickly embrace new methods to profit and while they enjoy free promotion from constant protest threads and the benefit of limited competition as most take a "wait and see" attitude about jumping on the bandwagon and in the end... everyone gets on board anyway.

this has been another free, surfmaster lesson on the history of online porn.

[softball]

Originally Posted by JR

first pop ups were going to kill porn
then exit consoles were going to kill porn
then spam was going to kill porn
then cp was going to kill porn
then credit card scams were going to kill porn
then the new laws everyone feared was coming was going to kill porn
then tgp's and mgp's were going to kill porn
then amateur sites/free sites from amateurs with digital cameras was going to kill porn
then visa was going to kill porn
then then p2p networks were going to kill porn
then google video search (and others) was going to kill porn
then bush/republicans were going to kill porn
now pornotube.com is going to kill porn

did i leave any out? i'm sure many can add to the list.

everyone has a right to be concerned or the right to an opinion. i dont really have one other than that porn is more resiliant than anyone gives it credit for. porn isn't going away and in a free market economy, will always be paid for.

if history has taught us anything, its that protesting against what others are doing changes nothing and only allows those who quickly embrace new methods to profit and while they enjoy free promotion from constant protest threads and the benefit of limited competition as most take a "wait and see" attitude about jumping on the bandwagon and in the end... everyone gets on board anyway.

this has been another free, surfmaster lesson on the history of online porn.

That wasn't a lesson. I would think most here know that brief little history. I am always amazed that anyone can survive in an industry where most of the product is available for free. Can survive in an industry where crooks can stand at your door with sledgehammers pounding away to break in while the police drive by and smile and wave. Can survive in an industry where you are expected to pay up to 75% of your revenue in advertising. Can survive in an industry that expects you to use third parties to provide your cash register and collect your revenue. I find this all breath taking, really. But I guess it is kind of Darwinian and only the strong survive. The weak bitch, complain and whine.

[softball]

"If we want to capitalize on this change, and who doesn't, we need to change our marketing methods to reflect the real world. Porn is becoming a commodity just like orange juice and RAM chips."

What, you mean do "business"? Porn has always been a commodity like orange juice and the fundamentals of business have always applied except for a couple of years when the scammers reigned.

[fusionx]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

"If we want to capitalize on this change, and who doesn't, we need to change our marketing methods to reflect the real world. Porn is becoming a commodity just like orange juice and RAM chips."

What, you mean do "business"? Porn has always been a commodity like orange juice and the fundamentals of business have always applied except for a couple of years when the scammers reigned.

The point was mainstream. Non-mainstream products are not commodities in the open, mass market.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by JR

first pop ups were going to kill porn
then exit consoles were going to kill porn
then spam was going to kill porn
then cp was going to kill porn
then credit card scams were going to kill porn
then the new laws everyone feared was coming was going to kill porn
then tgp's and mgp's were going to kill porn
then amateur sites/free sites from amateurs with digital cameras was going to kill porn
then visa was going to kill porn
then then p2p networks were going to kill porn
then google video search (and others) was going to kill porn
then bush/republicans were going to kill porn
now pornotube.com is going to kill porn

did i leave any out? i'm sure many can add to the list.

everyone has a right to be concerned or the right to an opinion. i dont really have one other than that porn is more resiliant than anyone gives it credit for. porn isn't going away and in a free market economy, will always be paid for.

if history has taught us anything, its that protesting against what others are doing changes nothing and only allows those who quickly embrace new methods to profit and while they enjoy free promotion from constant protest threads and the benefit of limited competition as most take a "wait and see" attitude about jumping on the bandwagon and in the end... everyone gets on board anyway.

this has been another free, surfmaster lesson on the history of online porn.

The real fun is watching people who've never made a dollar in this business doing anything other than spam now screaming like raped apes about pornotube...

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

The real fun is watching people who've never made a dollar in this business doing anything other than spam now screaming like raped apes about pornotube...

No the real fun is . . . it just doesnt fucking matter.

[gonzo]

http://www.techcrunch.com/page/2/

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by gonzo

http://www.techcrunch.com/page/2/

Somewhere, Rolo's head just split open.

And it was probably quite painful to whoever's ass it was stuck in at the time.

[ScottMcGowan]

Originally Posted by JR

first pop ups were going to kill porn
then exit consoles were going to kill porn
then spam was going to kill porn
then cp was going to kill porn
then credit card scams were going to kill porn
then the new laws everyone feared was coming was going to kill porn
then tgp's and mgp's were going to kill porn
then amateur sites/free sites from amateurs with digital cameras was going to kill porn
then visa was going to kill porn
then then p2p networks were going to kill porn
then google video search (and others) was going to kill porn
then bush/republicans were going to kill porn
now pornotube.com is going to kill porn

did i leave any out? i'm sure many can add to the list.

everyone has a right to be concerned or the right to an opinion. i dont really have one other than that porn is more resiliant than anyone gives it credit for. porn isn't going away and in a free market economy, will always be paid for.

if history has taught us anything, its that protesting against what others are doing changes nothing and only allows those who quickly embrace new methods to profit and while they enjoy free promotion from constant protest threads and the benefit of limited competition as most take a "wait and see" attitude about jumping on the bandwagon and in the end... everyone gets on board anyway.

this has been another free, surfmaster lesson on the history of online porn.

Isn't it great how the sky is always falling this fuckin' business. I just wrote a little something about that that I'll be posting on EyeOnAdult.com in a bit.