Simple things work best when looking for sign ups.

[Hammer]

The closest I come is wearing spandex when I ride my bike.

[TheEnforcer]

Ahhh.. the age old arguement of traffic vs. content. Always a great arguement to see because much can be said in favor of both sides arguement.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Ahhh.. the age old arguement of traffic vs. content. Always a great arguement to see because much can be said in favor of both sides arguement.

i vote for both equally

[softball]

"All of porn is made up of niches. If I wanted to promote the fetish niche and focus on the nylons micro niche, I would build a website to promote nylons and only showing photos of girls wearing nylons on the tour and use a domain name that has the word nylons in it and pack the members area with photos and videos of girls wearing nylons."

That would be your first mistake. It would fail. It might get a few suckers and you would lose interest very fast because you would make no money.

"I don't have to wear nylons to understand how to do that much,"

What does that have to do with selling product? I was not talking about men in nylons. Unless I have misread you and you are girl.

"Where a webmaster would fail in an attempt to promote a niche, would be to design a site that shows girls in nylons, along with anal sex, lesbians, trannies, asians, teens, MILFs, etc. that are not wearing nylons in an attempt to provide one site that will appeal to everyone. Then, when he puts an ad on Google Adwords about girls in nylons and a surfer that is into that niche clicks and finds a tour that seemingly has nothing to do with nylons but only shows one photo that matches the niche, he's going to leave."

That is just obvious.


The fact is, I am trying to be helpful by pointing out that this kind of marketing plan is not worth your time and effort. Unless you understand what it is you are selling, you are pissing in the wind. Like I said earlier, big tits and teens are not a niche. When you understand that, then you will have a kick at the can in niche marketing.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Ahhh.. the age old arguement of traffic vs. content. Always a great arguement to see because much can be said in favor of both sides arguement.

The two things go together, what is the most important can depend on your situation. for me traffic is King because I have the content thing solved.

However think along this line for a moment. If we had thought more about what we actually sell on the Internet do you think we would be suffering from "Free Porn" as much or do you think conversion ratios would be better?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The two things go together, what is the most important can depend on your situation. for me traffic is King because I have the content thing solved.

However think along this line for a moment. If we had thought more about what we actually sell on the Internet do you think we would be suffering from "Free Porn" as much or do you think conversion ratios would be better?

The traffic is king school...old school....has created the free porn glut on the net. No other business has so much free stuff. It was done by a bunch of newbies for a quick buck back in the day. Fair enough, but the rest of us have been suffering for it since. Not that I worry that much. It is just the arena we play in. Hell, if you can survive in this environment, it says something about your marketing skills.

[softball]

"The only thing that impresses a surfer enough to sign up is the QUALITY OF THE PORN."
I think this is a very debatable topic. What is quality? My opinion is that high quality images sell very well. But what makes up a high quality image is what is open for discussion. Where I think a lot of sites fall apart is on video quality. Too many guys think that making videos is like taking pictures. It is worlds apart. And today, video is becoming very, very important. If you are not shooting HD right now, then you are pissing up a rope.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

"The only thing that impresses a surfer enough to sign up is the QUALITY OF THE PORN."
I think this is a very debatable topic. What is quality? My opinion is that high quality images sell very well. But what makes up a high quality image is what is open for discussion. Where I think a lot of sites fall apart is on video quality. Too many guys think that making videos is like taking pictures. It is worlds apart. And today, video is becoming very, very important. If you are not shooting HD right now, then you are pissing up a rope.

The debate over what is quality porn is a tough one because to many it's different things to different people. But on a lot of the porn the difference is not "I would fuck her" it is "She will fuck me"

It's about creating the illusion in the mind of the consumer that the model, who is there to earn money, will fuck for free.

This might vary according to the niche.

And this is the tough part of creating porn, it's not about working a camera and getting the exposure right. It's about working the model.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The debate over what is quality porn is a tough one because to many it's different things to different people. But on a lot of the porn the difference is not "I would fuck her" it is "She will fuck me"

It's about creating the illusion in the mind of the consumer that the model, who is there to earn money, will fuck for free.

This might vary according to the niche.

And this is the tough part of creating porn, it's not about working a camera and getting the exposure right. It's about working the model.

It is very simple. If you can suspend disbelief, you will make money. Lots of it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

The traffic is king school...old school....has created the free porn glut on the net. No other business has so much free stuff. It was done by a bunch of newbies for a quick buck back in the day. Fair enough, but the rest of us have been suffering for it since. Not that I worry that much. It is just the arena we play in. Hell, if you can survive in this environment, it says something about your marketing skills.

Good point.

No VERY GOOD POINT.

I think we created the free porn sector ourselves, we trained the surfer to look at free porn and now many complain about the threat from the beast we created.

Like you I'm not worried about it. we get a huge chunk of type in traffic to the paysite, a lot of it comes from free porn.