Do you consider yourself stubborn?

[Anthony]

I do. I was told by an old friend that when I get my jaws into something I hang on like bulldog, even if it's the wrong decision.

Stubborness, good or bad?

[Nickatilynx]

I'm initially stubborn as a bitch...then I step back and negotiate

[DrGuile]

Im usually very good at seeing both side of a coin... and if I think Im right, Im a pain in the ass...

...unless you're paying me lots of money, than Im pretty good at saying "Fuck it"

[TheEnforcer]

It all depends on what you are talking about. In business I'm not nearly as stubborn because more money is the goal. Take something like politics or my way of life and it's another matter entirely. While I generally can argue each sides cause with equal vigor in a debate I'm EXTREMELY stubborn with my opinions on matters of politics, religion, etc. etc.

[MorganGrayson]

When I was a little girl, my mother looked at me in total frustration and said "you'd cut off your nose to spite your face." I had absolutely NO idea what that meant at the time. I learned later, however.

I can't answer the poll, because you didn't include an "all of the above." I've noticed that my hideous stubborn traits can be situational: not just subjects, but people.

In some situations, such as passionate discussions with my husband about "issues," I find myself saying "you know, you have some very valid points and I do believe you're right and I'm wrong."

When I'm convinced I'm right (note: not that I *am* right, just that I'm *convinced* that I am) I can be a total bitch to contend with. It's a character flaw, not a virture. "Sticking to your guns" is considered a good trait by some...but it can also be one big hole in logic and rational thought, which is never good.

[Newton]

I like to see both sides of the coin, but really piss me off and I am very very patient

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

When I was a little girl, my mother looked at me in total frustration and said "you'd cut off your nose to spite your face." I had absolutely NO idea what that meant at the time. I learned later, however.

I can't answer the poll, because you didn't include an "all of the above." I've noticed that my hideous stubborn traits can be situational: not just subjects, but people.

In some situations, such as passionate discussions with my husband about "issues," I find myself saying "you know, you have some very valid points and I do believe you're right and I'm wrong."

When I'm convinced I'm right (note: not that I *am* right, just that I'm *convinced* that I am) I can be a total bitch to contend with. It's a character flaw, not a virture. "Sticking to your guns" is considered a good trait by some...but it can also be one big hole in logic and rational thought, which is never good.

Good answer, though, number 2 should cover it.

[Trev]

I'm stubborn...

[Dravyk]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I'm initially stubborn as a bitch...then I step back and negotiate

Yeah there needs to be something like that between 1 and 2 as an poll answer .... Initially stubborn, fight you to the death, then walk away, take a breath, come back and try and see both sides and how it can be settled more amicably if possible.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Good answer, though, number 2 should cover it.

OK. I voted #2.

Wanted to be totally fair on this one, though. I mean, when you're a kid and the first time you hear the phrase "you'd cut off your nose to spite your face" from your MOM...it doesn't bode well for some future decisions.

One of the benefits of making it to this age is that you can turn around, look back, wince, and mutter "oh, tell me that wasn't me!!"

It helps me with my kids, though...as long as I can prevent "yeah, I was an asshole when I was your age, too" from coming out of my mouth. That would be counterproductive.

On a personal note, one of the funnier things that has happened to me lately was nearly screeching "I WAS ONLY 25 WHEN I SAID THAT!!" at my husband. He had hung on to data that had been outmoded for a very long time. Luckily, I found it even funnier when not too long after that, he arched an eyebrow at me. I had done the same thing. I think people should sit down periodically and have an "Opinion Review" to see which ones have changed through growth.

[Sin]

I'm a tossup between 1 & 2.

Usually it depends on my opponent. If I'm feeling particularly obnoxious & stubborn I might hang onto an issue & drill it so hard that the other person begins to question their own point, (I'll do this if they show any kind of hesitation/uncertainty about their own side of the story regardless of if they're right...)

If someone can put up a good enough argument though to get me to look at their side, I'll look.

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by Sin

I'm a tossup between 1 & 2.

Usually it depends on my opponent. If I'm feeling particularly obnoxious & stubborn I might hang onto an issue & drill it so hard that the other person begins to question their own point, (I'll do this if they show any kind of hesitation/uncertainty about their own side of the story regardless of if they're right...)

If someone can put up a good enough argument though to get me to look at their side, I'll look.

Same here. I won't cut off my nose to spite my face, but I can stand my ground pretty hard to prove a point I believe in.

[Sin]

My coworker at my dayjob has told me he hates talking to me sometimes because I make him question everything he says just by how I carry on a conversation, he said this once, "I prefer talking to other people most of the time because they just take what I say & buy it, with you I actually have to think about what I'm saying."

LOL

[PornoDoggy]

No, I'm an old broke down bitch that is angry with the world and refuse to change.

I'm still trying to figure out if this was seriously meant to be offered up as a No option, or just a bad attempt to belabor a poorly made point.

Seems to me it is a perfect description of why some people are stubborn.

[domtheboy]

I'm usually fairly adaptable and willing to listen to other people's opinions. I don't have a problem with changing my opinion if someone can show me I am wrong. Having said that, if I'm certain I'm right I will dig my heels in. Usually at that point I have to "agree to disagree" with the other party.

[MorganGrayson]

Originally Posted by domtheboy

..."agree to disagree"...

Just as a comment, I appreciate people who have the ability to do that. It seems to be a lost art. Too many people feel that every discussion has to have a "winner." Someone absolutely has to be right and the other person absolutely has to be wrong. Never a compromise or "you have the right to your opinion, I have the right to mine...so...want some coffee?"

[selena]

It depends.

Somethings I am stubborn to the death over. Others I evaluate, determine it's importance in my life, and shrug away.

[Sin]

For me, depending on the subject, its kind of like a sport.

I could start out fully confident that I'm right.
The other person could be sure that they're right too, except they just heard my mindblowingly convincing argument, so now they're hesitant on the presentation of their own side. This is about where the subject at hand becomes important. If I recognize that yes they are right but they hesitated & seem unsure, I'll try to convince them over to my side anyways.

If the subject is important enough, I'll not argue for the sake of exercising my verbal jousting skills... I'll just shut up & concede that yes they were correct.