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Old 12-12-2005   #1
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Why the fuck would you want to "how much I'd like to think differently"...


Jesus...thats preparing excuses to fail...
Well, it's more PC in my own mind to think that perhaps I wouldn't take actions that I am very capable of taking, I suppose.

You ever read Gone With the Wind?

I'm kind of like one part in it, where it goes on about how Scarlett wants the accolades and such for being a lady without having to change her knave soul.

I'd like to be thought of as kind and nice and those things.

But I'm not those things, and I don't foresee a change, really.
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Well, it's more PC in my own mind to think that perhaps I wouldn't take actions that I am very capable of taking, I suppose.

You ever read Gone With the Wind?

I'm kind of like one part in it, where it goes on about how Scarlett wants the accolades and such for being a lady without having to change her knave soul.

I'd like to be thought of as kind and nice and those things.

But I'm not those things, and I don't foresee a change, really.
Why the fuck do you want to be thought of as "nice"?

Have you been programmed to lose?
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Why the fuck do you want to be thought of as "nice"?

Have you been programmed to lose?
I've had it as my life goal for a few years now to be thought of as "formidable"
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I've had it as my life goal for a few years now to be thought of as "formidable"
You are a woman.

Its a mans world.

Best you can strive for is "a bitch"

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You are a woman.

Its a mans world.

Best you can strive for is "a bitch"

;-)))
That would be true, if I thought like a woman, except I can't stand most women out there, and made it a point to think as much like a man as possible my whole life, (ie rational, reasonable, logical)

The result is that most out there consider me a bitch, and if I simply settled for "bitch" it would hold me back from obtaining what I know I can achieve, so I had to finely hone my "lady" skills because there are some extreme advantages to be had when one is approachable instead of simply "terrifying"
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That would be true, if I thought like a woman, except I can't stand most women out there, and made it a point to think as much like a man as possible my whole life, (ie rational, reasonable, logical)

The result is that most out there consider me a bitch, and if I simply settled for "bitch" it would hold me back from obtaining what I know I can achieve, so I had to finely hone my "lady" skills because there are some extreme advantages to be had when one is approachable instead of simply "terrifying"
bottomline...you are sitting on a fortune... ;-)))

use it
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bottomline...you are sitting on a fortune... ;-)))

use it
High praise... thank you.
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That would be true, if I thought like a woman, except I can't stand most women out there, and made it a point to think as much like a man as possible my whole life, (ie rational, reasonable, logical)

The result is that most out there consider me a bitch, and if I simply settled for "bitch" it would hold me back from obtaining what I know I can achieve, so I had to finely hone my "lady" skills because there are some extreme advantages to be had when one is approachable instead of simply "terrifying"

My first day of Golf, I was given this advice by a rather smart looking individual with great taste in golf shoes.

"Use every possible rule and advantage you can to win."

It's worked for me over the years. You should try it out.

Golf mimics life.
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My first day of Golf, I was given this advice by a rather smart looking individual with great taste in golf shoes.

"Use every possible rule and advantage you can to win."

It's worked for me over the years. You should try it out.

Golf mimics life.
Life is THE best game of all!!
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My first day of Golf, I was given this advice by a rather smart looking individual with great taste in golf shoes.

"Use every possible rule and advantage you can to win."

It's worked for me over the years. You should try it out.

Golf mimics life.
That would be why I worked on my approachability & lady skills & continue to do so...
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Why the fuck do you want to be thought of as "nice"?

Have you been programmed to lose?
~considers~

Hmmm.

I will have to think on that for a minute or two.
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Why the fuck do you want to be thought of as "nice"?

Have you been programmed to lose?
OH MY FAWKING GAWD, NOT FUCKING AGAIN!!!

PLEASE LEAVE 2000 BACK WHERE IT BELONGS, HISTORY

It's like deja vu. I've heard these words before.
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Why the fuck do you want to be thought of as "nice"?

Have you been programmed to lose?
Because it's easier to get what I want that way, I think is the reason.

Without going in to analysis over it, I would say that is likely the answer.
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I'd like to be thought of as kind and nice and those things.

But I'm not those things, and I don't foresee a change, really.
Aha, that's the answer there, in the 2nd line.

It's good to be "thought of" as nice, when you're not actually nice.
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Aha, that's the answer there, in the 2nd line.

It's good to be "thought of" as nice, when you're not actually nice.

Precisley.

I don't want to be nice, I don't have the luxury of that.

Reality vs illusion
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Precisley.

I don't want to be nice, I don't have the luxury of that.

Reality vs illusion
Interesting.

I have been given the moniker, "Honest Anthony".

Cause I is!
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Interesting.

I have been given the moniker, "Honest Anthony".

Cause I is!

Honesty and morals are two different things in my book.
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Interesting.

I have been given the moniker, "Honest Anthony".

Cause I is!
You are ..

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Interesting.

I have been given the moniker, "Honest Anthony".

Cause I is!
Although I'm loathe to fall back on gender biases, men can get away with being purely 'honest.'

I'm honest too. Brutally so. Its part of why I decided to work on learning to be a lady, because if I was simply "honest" i'd be simply a bitch. I intend on being a lot more.

I wouldn't say "Reality vs Illusion" either though, reality is I am a lady, reality is I'm also honest. Reality is that most people out there can't handle that & find me very unsettling & unnerving as a result.

I'd say the key different is tact. There's honest, and simply blurting out the truth & leaving the other person horribly crushed & wounded feeling, (that's Bitch) and then there's honesty where the other person absorbs what you're telling them, acknowledges it as truth, and can't fault you in the slightest for making them feel the way they do, (the truth hurts) simply because of how you went about it. The latter, is formidable.
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I'd like to be thought of as kind and nice and those things.
I wanted the name "Morgan Grayson," which isn't my own, to be associated with being "kind and nice," too.

Unfortunately, it was a "nice kind of idiot" that evolved.

"Certain people" (who are currently doing "The Highlander") attempted to explain to me that "nice" meant "weak" in this world. Well, they were right. Very, very right.

Back in the day, I owned a pretty little link site...and I never one time asked the owner of a successful link site how to run the damned thing to make MONEY. It wasn't that I didn't know any. I knew a ton of them. First real name basis and everything. I got a few tidbits of advice, but nothing like what I would have gotten if I'd overcome my "you don't take advantage of friends by asking them questions" bullshit and drained their brains.

I'm currently building another linksite and have the owner of a very successful, money making linksite on speed dial. Am I using him? Sure. Is he using me right back? Of course. What's he getting? I'm funny and fun to yack at and I break up his day. And, by teaching me, he learns, too. It's a nice symbiotic relationship. (The guy is an absolute doll and makes me long for my phone sex days, frankly.)

Back in the day I got invaluable advice on many things that I didn't follow. I can list "reasons," and "excuses" but it all boils down to one word. "Failure."
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