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Old 09-30-2005   #1
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Default Re: EU deal threatens end to US dominance of internet

I'm normally very open minded about foreign policy issues but in this case I'll happily say I could care less what the EU, or any other country, wants in this regard. With all due respect I have no desire to see the UN/multi-country control over the net. I have little doubt the growth of the net would be stifled. ICANN ain't perfect but I have little doubt that some bureaucratic and political UN board would make things 1000 times worse.

There is room to talk about ICANN and some of how it operates but I don't know of many, if any, here in the states that would like to see the UN running the net. Even supporters of the UN overall and it's possibilities in helping the world have no desire to see them in charge of the net.
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I'm normally very open minded about foreign policy issues but in this case I'll happily say I could care less what the EU, or any other country, wants in this regard. With all due respect I have no desire to see the UN/multi-country control over the net. I have little doubt the growth of the net would be stifled. ICANN ain't perfect but I have little doubt that some bureaucratic and political UN board would make things 1000 times worse.

There is room to talk about ICANN and some of how it operates but I don't know of many, if any, here in the states that would like to see the UN running the net. Even supporters of the UN overall and it's possibilities in helping the world have no desire to see them in charge of the net.
Then the US could be sitting with it's own little internet while the rest of the world fucks you off...
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Then the US could be sitting with it's own little internet while the rest of the world fucks you off...

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Ain't gonna happen my friend. This is one of those instances where MikeAi and I agree though I wouldn't have said it quite that way.

Ok.. lets say what you say there happens. Whose income do you think would suffere more? US webmasters being denied foreign customers or foreign webmasters being denied US customers?
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Ain't gonna happen my friend. This is one of those instances where MikeAi and I agree though I wouldn't have said it quite that way.

Ok.. lets say what you say there happens. Whose income do you think would suffere more? US webmasters being denied foreign customers or foreign webmasters being denied US customers?
Lol, maybe the 2 internets was a grab at nothing. However the US isn't as all powerful as it believes itself to be.

Something's got to give...
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Lol, maybe the 2 internets was a grab at nothing. However the US isn't as all powerful as it believes itself to be.

Something's got to give...
I agree there needs to be some changes with ICANN but the wholesale changes that the EU is pushing for just won't fly. Of course we aren't all powerful but we do have significant power and know how to leverage it.
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I agree there needs to be some changes with ICANN but the wholesale changes that the EU is pushing for just won't fly. Of course we aren't all powerful but we do have significant power and know how to leverage it.
ok but what can you leverage ??

i mean you have not been able to leverage porn hard enough to erradicate it from USA...

and lets not talk about illegal porn that still goes round and round. not that i approve it but it is null to say you have the power.

shit even alqaeda or however the fuck you spell it was hosting in the USA come onnn!!!! what leverage.
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Ain't gonna happen my friend. This is one of those instances where MikeAi and I agree though I wouldn't have said it quite that way.

Ok.. lets say what you say there happens. Whose income do you think would suffere more? US webmasters being denied foreign customers or foreign webmasters being denied US customers?
US webmasters that stay in Home Land buddy. Europe can and is becoming the place to host and not get fucked with.

and i predict 10 years from now central and south america will have killed the fucking bandwith pricing issues and be as competitive... the wave down here is starting but europe will win this round.
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I'm normally very open minded about foreign policy issues but in this case I'll happily say I could care less what the EU, or any other country, wants in this regard. With all due respect I have no desire to see the UN/multi-country control over the net. I have little doubt the growth of the net would be stifled. ICANN ain't perfect but I have little doubt that some bureaucratic and political UN board would make things 1000 times worse.

There is room to talk about ICANN and some of how it operates but I don't know of many, if any, here in the states that would like to see the UN running the net. Even supporters of the UN overall and it's possibilities in helping the world have no desire to see them in charge of the net.
i am still wondering who says US runs the internet??? you could have said this 7 years ago but right now it is kind of stupid to think so.
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