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on the current crisis and its timeline
IIRC The Department of Homeland Security is responsible. The Secretary was chosen by the President and he also agreed on who the head of FEMA should be. Therefore they should be in charge and responsible for any screw ups. Rudy did a great job of handling a tiny crisis in New York relative to what is going on in LA, MS and AL. He is so good at what he did, he probably should also have been sent to Iraq to lead our troops to victory and then use his "crisis manager" skills there. I heard FEMA actually did some practice disaster releif exercises in NO so they should have had a plan and a knowledge of the nuances of the governmental structure, the location of supplies, the transportation system, the levies etc. However, as Bush plays war hero president, the ability of FEMA to respond was weakened. It may have been due to stupidity or not caring or robbing Peter to pay paul the Iraq fiasco or a simple desire to reduce the domestic budget. This piece from the Washington Journal gives an interesting look at the management and the funding of FEMA: "CHRONOLOGY....Here's a timeline that outlines the fate of both FEMA and flood control projects in New Orleans under the Bush administration. Read it and weep: a.. January 2001: Bush appoints Joe Allbaugh, a crony from Texas, as head of FEMA. Allbaugh has no previous experience in disaster management. b.. April 2001: Budget Director Mitch Daniels announces the Bush administration's goal of privatizing much of FEMA's work. In May, Allbaugh confirms that FEMA will be downsized: "Many are concerned that federal disaster assistance may have evolved into both an oversized entitlement program...." he said. "Expectations of when the federal government should be involved and the degree of involvement may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level." c.. 2001: FEMA designates a major hurricane hitting New Orleans as one of the three "likeliest, most catastrophic disasters facing this country." d.. December 2002: After less than two years at FEMA, Allbaugh announces he is leaving to start up a consulting firm that advises companies seeking to do business in Iraq. He is succeeded by his deputy, Michael Brown, who, like Allbaugh, has no previous experience in disaster management. e.. March 2003: FEMA is downgraded from a cabinet level position and folded into the Department of Homeland Security. Its mission is refocused on fighting acts of terrorism. f.. 2003: Under its new organization chart within DHS, FEMA's preparation and planning functions are reassigned to a new Office of Preparedness and Response. FEMA will henceforth focus only on response and recovery. g.. Summer 2004: FEMA denies Louisiana's pre-disaster mitigation funding requests. Says Jefferson Parish flood zone manager Tom Rodrigue: "You would think we would get maximum consideration....This is what the grant program called for. We were more than qualified for it." h.. June 2004: The Army Corps of Engineers budget for levee construction in New Orleans is slashed. Jefferson Parish emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri comments: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay." i.. June 2005: Funding for the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is cut by a record $71.2 million. One of the hardest-hit areas is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes. j.. August 2005: While New Orleans is undergoing a slow motion catastrophe, Bush mugs for the cameras, cuts a cake for John McCain, plays the guitar for Mark Wills, delivers an address about V-J day, and continues with his vacation. When he finally gets around to acknowledging the scope of the unfolding disaster, he delivers only a photo op on Air Force One and a flat, defensive, laundry list speech in the Rose Garden. So: A crony with no relevant experience was installed as head of FEMA. Mitigation budgets for New Orleans were slashed even though it was known to be one of the top three risks in the country. FEMA was deliberately downsized as part of the Bush administration's conservative agenda to reduce the role of government. After DHS was created, FEMA's preparation and planning functions were taken away. Actions have consequences. No one could predict that a hurricane the size of Katrina would hit this year, but the slow federal response when it did happen was no accident. It was the result of four years of deliberate Republican policy and budget choices that favor ideology and partisan loyalty at the expense of operational competence. It's the Bush administration in a nutshell."
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Just watching this on the BBC now .. Civil engineers being interviewed about the levees .. Bush going to be taking a visit there today to 'survey the situation'
.. people dying and being left where they are .. where the fuck is the food, water and medical attention these people so desperately need, its been four days now!!.
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I read the headlines that said Bush surveyed the disaster area. Not until I got into the stories did I find out all he did was look out the window of Air Force One on his way back to Washington. Talk about "spin". What a total fuck!
And we were just talking on this board several days ago about the President and vacation. And how he doesn't need to be in Washington he can handle everything there. So he flies from a neighboring state all the way up to DC and doesn't even stop in Lousianna??? Shit, Bush Sr and Clinton have been and/or are there already! Then Cory mentioned elsewhere that the FEMA director said on TV: "The lawlessness that is being reported is few and far between.....everything is under control ..." Another wonder from looking at the articles was about the Reserves enmassing in Baton Rouge. I swear some high official somewhere (not sure if this was a federal guy, governor's office, military or who) said they wouldn't be sending them into NO yet because things were currently too dangerous there! ..... WTF??? Has everyone lost their minds?!?! |
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Buff posted an interview with a local ("Bigfoot") who's at the Convention Center. Unbefuckinglievable.
The feds didn't even KNOW there were people at the Convention Center til today... goddamned incompetents! |
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Fuck i love the BBC .. They have one of the chief guys from ARUP speaking from the London Stock Exchange, explaining that they need to do controlled draining first which could take a minimum of 4-6 months before power can even be considered being turned on and pumps turned on. BBC is spot on and no bullshit ..
The looting will get worse and the disease leavels will esculate beyond all control, this is mainland USA not some tiny island in the middle of nowhere What I dont understand is why he needs to visit there at all today, if he knows what is happening via tv/radio/internet and his advisors .. it reminds me of the story concerning King Canute who placed his throne on the edge of the beach and commanded the sea to go back, by his words alone. This is fucking crazy .. |
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Always expect politicians (no matter what side of the political spectrum they are from) to fuck things up. Politicians today are not visionary or real leaders - they are media puppets schooled in rhetoric - not in thinking or responsibility.
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Why do I have the feeling that this guy is now an employee of OUR government's PR machine?
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I fear you are right, Drav.
Thank heavens for the BBC - it's wonderful to have news that actually communicates with its audience as if we are adults. At this point, it's the only news source I'm listening to with a modicum of faith in its Gulf Coast crisis information. |
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