Who's got the Story Straight?

[Brad Mitchell]

I'm getting a lot of phone calls from clients.

Could CCBill give me the straight skinny, because these articles are conflicted.

Which one is correct.

http://www.avn.com/articles/227053.html

or this one:

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=8787

Inquiring minds want to know!

[Nickatilynx]

So much easier if you also c&p here too

Article One

TEMPE, Ariz. - Payment processor CCBill will update its acceptable use policy (AUP), excluding sites that feature watersports and violent content.

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A company representative said that sites within said niches that have already been approved will be able to process “for the time being.”

Official word is that “CCBill is no longer accepting new sites which contain or market person-to-person exchanges of bodily fluids. This mainly pertains to urine/urination, blood, or overall violent scenes or depictions.”

Several employees of the company refused to comment on the matter; however, the new AUP is said to be available this week.

While CCBill is being tight-lipped about their reasoning behind the move, it comes on the heels of the May 5 announcement by the U.S. Department of Justice of the formation of its Obscenity Prosecution Task Force. Also of questionable consequence is a March 23 subpoena obtained by AVNOnline.com filed by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Missouri, which reveals that the government is looking for similar content, which includes fisting, urination and torture.

“In the current political environment, they probably see a high risk in this type of content and they probably see that as a risk they’re not willing to bear,” says Chicago-based First Amendment attorney Joe Obenberger of J.D. Obenberger and Associates.

Meanwhile, the landscape for the other large payment processors hasn’t changed.

“Paycom has carefully considered its polices. Paycom, at its option, may choose not to accept payment processing for content that could cause an adverse effect on their portfolio. The formation of the task force has not led us to change our policies,” Paycom communications director Rand Pate tells AVNOnline.com.

Netbilling president Mitch Farber concurrs.

“Our only written policy is against sites that are against Visa regulations. We often make moral judgments on sites internally,” he tells AVNOnline.com. “If we don’t like what someone is doing on a site, we’ll turn it down. It doesn’t happen very often, but if someone is doing a rape site—it’s stuff we morally feel we don’t want to do business with.”





Article Two

TEMPE, Ariz. — CCBill Vice President Tom Fisher on Tuesday denied that the online payment processor is planning to exclude sites that feature watersports and violent content.
“As far as we’re concerned, this is a nonissue,” Fisher told XBiz. “We’re not changing our position on the acceptable use policy.”

On Tuesday, Adult Video News reported that the Tempe, Ariz.-based credit card processor “is no longer accepting new sites which contain or market person-to-person exchanges of bodily fluids. This mainly pertains to urine/urination, blood, or overall violent scenes or depictions.”

“It looks like they went out on the boards and made up the story,” Fisher said. “What they publish is not the gospel.”

Fisher said that all of CCBill’s clients are under the same “standard” contract that includes an acceptable use policy, which dictates rules on depictions of extreme violence and sexual acts.

[Lee]

We had a guy from CCBill post about this on GWW a couple of days ago.

Seems they are now refusing to accept any 'new' watersports type sites but existing clients are fine for the time being.

Here is the link to the thread on GWW where Paul gave us some feedback on this new CCBill rule:

http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...ead.php?t=9854

[Brad Mitchell]

I think it's probably best to talk to your CCBill rep to get clarification. That's what I'm recommending to my clients.

[Sabby]

Well, I think its time for me to put the bat away... get my bony old ass in shape... and try my luck with the glamour MILF market...




Sabby

[gonzo]

Wheres Corvett with the official word?

[Brad Mitchell]

Originally posted by gonzo@May 18 2005, 03:07 PM
Wheres Corvett with the official word?

Most likely, CCBill will come out with an official announcement when they are ready.

I get the feeling the two reports are not entirely accurate.

As I think about it, when I owned my own affiliate program, whenever CCBill came out with policy changes, we received emails and there was an announcement on their site and on the boards.

I've been traveling around the boards today and I've seen nothing from CCBill, so I am suggesting to my hosting clients that they contact CCBill directly or wait for an official announcement, especially since these two reports are in such conflict.

[ThrobX]

Where's the fun in that? It's much more fun and interesting to spread rumors, half-truths, and innuendo. Don't you know that THAT is the true reason for WM boards existing???

[Trev]

Originally posted by ThrobX@May 18 2005, 09:24 PM
Where's the fun in that? It's much more fun and interesting to spread rumors, half-truths, and innuendo. Don't you know that THAT is the true reason for WM boards existing???

Preach it brother

[Grump]

Not sure why the uncertainty. One article denies the accuracy of the other article and includes quotes from Tom Fisher. The article Tom denies quotes anonymous sources.

Tom is usually easy to reach by phone, and not known for misleading or inaccurate statements, I'd suggest calling him directly.

[Nickatilynx]

Ok....the bleeding obvious....

Someone , who it affects , should ask them LOL

[Trev]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 18 2005, 10:40 PM
Ok....the bleeding obvious....

Someone , who it affects , should ask them LOL

Don't say that


Now people will go and find out the facts, rather than sit on their lazy backsides and speculate

[ThrobX]

Originally posted by Trev+May 18 2005, 01:48 PM-->