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Old 04-22-2005   #1
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All the pharmacies busted...and some adult webmasters we know are in trouble

Looks like the adult company ExtremePay is in some BIG trouble.
From what i have been hearing from others, and now seeing actual NAMES in the news being indicted, i think it's getting pretty scary for them.

People who work at extremepay office told me they had rcmp visit.

Kevin is a US. citizen and the canadian government is extraditing him to the US. on these charges.

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The US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) said it has busted up a major India-based pharmacy that was illegally selling Vicodin, steroids, amphetamines, and other controlled drugs over the Internet.

The head of the drug ring, Dr. Brij Bhushan Bansal, was reportedly picked up at his home in Agra, India, yesterday. His son, Temple University healthcare-management grad student Akhil Bansal, was arrested in Philadelphia.

The DEA said a total of 20 people were arrested worldwide. Besides the Bansals and their employees, the sweep netted several North American affiliates and distributors who submitted orders to Bansal organization.

According to the indictment, the distributors included:

KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com *extremepay*); VICTOR DEVORE (operator of bigcitymeds.com, greentreerx.com, mercomeds.com, rxapproved.com, and rxglobally.com); TOM PETERS and KELLY ANN COUCHMAN (operators of myemeds.com); MATTHEW JOSEPH MELAO and CHRISTOPHER GEOFF LAINE (operators of ourprescriptionsforless.com and yourpharmacyone.com); ROHN WALLACE (operator of usarxpress.com and discountmedsonline.com; WILLIAM RANDALL REED, a/k/a “millerlight”; and RICHARD DABNEY
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duane, kevin's partner confirmed all of this is true.

he wanted to add that the authorities are making this look worst than it is...

maybe they are clueless, this is very bad
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Streetracer - name your sources - cos I can't find that anywhere

Interesting how this is twice you've come out against us.. perhaps you have a personal vendetta or somethign?

Don't go making claims when you have NOTHING to back them up
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you know, i believed this at first just cause I trust people on oprano not to post bullshit..but upoin further investigation

i found the EXACT same release, MINUS the extremepay bit

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Spammers who market prescription drugs may find their suppliers are hard to reach as of today.

The US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) said it has busted up a major India-based pharmacy that was illegally selling Vicodin, steroids, amphetamines, and other controlled drugs over the Internet.

The head of the drug ring, Dr. Brij Bhushan Bansal, was reportedly picked up at his home in Agra, India, yesterday. His son, Temple University healthcare-management grad student Akhil Bansal, was arrested in Philadelphia.

The DEA said a total of 20 people were arrested worldwide. Besides the Bansals and their employees, the sweep netted several North American affiliates and distributors who submitted orders to Bansal organization.

According to the indictment, the distributors included:

KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com); VICTOR DEVORE (operator of bigcitymeds.com, greentreerx.com, mercomeds.com, rxapproved.com, and rxglobally.com); TOM PETERS and KELLY ANN COUCHMAN (operators of myemeds.com); MATTHEW JOSEPH MELAO and CHRISTOPHER GEOFF LAINE (operators of ourprescriptionsforless.com and yourpharmacyone.com); ROHN WALLACE (operator of usarxpress.com and discountmedsonline.com; WILLIAM RANDALL REED, a/k/a “millerlight”; and RICHARD DABNEY
Despite the arrests, all of the pharmacy sites listed above were still live Wednesday afternoon. So was OrdersPanel.com, the site they used to place orders with the Bansals.

Pills are currently one of the most heavily spammed items. It will be interesting to see whether this action results in some relief from all the "pharma" spam.
why do people constantly want to spread shit like this
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If i name my sources than you will go after them

So your saying Kevin is not involded in this indictment???

Coming from duanes mouth, he says this all is true
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you know, i believed this at first just cause I trust people on oprano not to post bullshit..but upoin further investigation

i found the EXACT same release, MINUS the extremepay bit

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Spammers who market prescription drugs may find their suppliers are hard to reach as of today.

The US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) said it has busted up a major India-based pharmacy that was illegally selling Vicodin, steroids, amphetamines, and other controlled drugs over the Internet.

The head of the drug ring, Dr. Brij Bhushan Bansal, was reportedly picked up at his home in Agra, India, yesterday. His son, Temple University healthcare-management grad student Akhil Bansal, was arrested in Philadelphia.

The DEA said a total of 20 people were arrested worldwide. Besides the Bansals and their employees, the sweep netted several North American affiliates and distributors who submitted orders to Bansal organization.

According to the indictment, the distributors included:

KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com); VICTOR DEVORE (operator of bigcitymeds.com, greentreerx.com, mercomeds.com, rxapproved.com, and rxglobally.com); TOM PETERS and KELLY ANN COUCHMAN (operators of myemeds.com); MATTHEW JOSEPH MELAO and CHRISTOPHER GEOFF LAINE (operators of ourprescriptionsforless.com and yourpharmacyone.com); ROHN WALLACE (operator of usarxpress.com and discountmedsonline.com; WILLIAM RANDALL REED, a/k/a “millerlight”; and RICHARD DABNEY
Despite the arrests, all of the pharmacy sites listed above were still live Wednesday afternoon. So was OrdersPanel.com, the site they used to place orders with the Bansals.

Pills are currently one of the most heavily spammed items. It will be interesting to see whether this action results in some relief from all the "pharma" spam.
why do people constantly want to spread shit like this
I am confused Jace, what is not to believe if you found the exact same article but streetracer just clarified whom he was talking about by adding a name we would recognize as the company name ?
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http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042005.html

Doesnt mention Kevin or extremepay.
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Yep took me an entire two seconds of searching Google to come up with the same item.
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joesho - that is exactly what i did, i put the ** in so it would be easy for people to reconize
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I am confused Jace, what is not to believe if you found the exact same article but streetracer just clarified whom he was talking about by adding a name we would recognize as the company name ?
so, hearing a rumour, then adding the name in later to the press release means it is real?

i would love to streetracer to link to an exact article naming the names he/she named already, but online and for fact, instead of having to add the name in yourself...LOL..that doesn't make it real
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Doesnt mention Kevin or extremepay.
exactly
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joesho - that is exactly what i did, i put the ** in so it would be easy for people to reconize
you didn't add the name in there too?

give us the EXACT place you copied that text from then
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Duane the owner of extremepay confirmed that kevin has been indicted.

they were the canadian corp being investigated

duh, they ran the pharmacy using these guys as a supplier, ofcourse they are going to get nailed
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Doesnt mention Kevin or extremepay.
So are you saying the first release we saw is a fake ? and that streetracer added Kevins name to it as well as pointing out that the company was extremepay?

or is it two different articles?
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Duane the owner of extremepay confirmed that kevin has been indicted.

they were the canadian corp being investigated

duh, they ran the pharmacy using these guys as a supplier, ofcourse they are going to get nailed
then why is extremepay all over gfy trying to find out who is spreading this rumour...are the ONLY one that knows this info, including all extremepay employees?

show us where you got that article from, give us the link
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i don't see how this is hard to understand.

extremepay was using this guy to dispense med orders for their pharmacy sites, and now they are all getting nailed.
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So we're not named here - http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042005.html - yet you're still saying we're involved?

Perhaps I'm not as intelligent as I thought, but to me that seems to show it right there - we're not named - the only way we're connected is through this crap posted on these boards..

Jace.. where did you find that release you 'quoted'? Do you have a link back to it? is it from a news source? it is legitimate? or is it just from a message board??

Streetracer - LOL, now you're claiming it's coming from DUANE'S mouth? So Duane is going around bitching up his own program now?

Come on, give me a freakin break man
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i don't see how this is hard to understand.

extremepay was using this guy to dispense med orders for their pharmacy sites, and now they are all getting nailed.
so, wait, performancemarketingltd.com is extremepay?

got anything to back that up
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i don't see how this is hard to understand.

extremepay was using this guy to dispense med orders for their pharmacy sites, and now they are all getting nailed.
Oh! I see.. so some SEO person posted it so therefore it's true?

Again.. where is a link to a reputable news source?

I still haven't seen one - and the one that IS reputable DOESN'T list anything about Xtremepay..
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gee, learn to use google.
why , when you are so good at it ?

good find though dr. Guile



so it appears the question is, where did the weblogger get this info from then .
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yes performancemarketingltd.com is extremepay

they were also involed in an investigation by the canadian government for their dick pills
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i gotta run out

believe what you want
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Again.. where is a link to a reputable news source?
Does any such thing exist?
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I'm hearing one of the other guys involved has already been sentenced to 20 yrs.

I looked at it last yr.My lawyer said don't go anywhere near.

Glad I didn't.

I think bringing opiats in , ranks with cocaine.

Still money to be made from sending traffic to US based pharma's with US Docs , and pharmacists though.

Another reason to concentrate on traffic.
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I have nothing against ExtremePay, I have nothing for them, I don't know them nor anyone there. I have no agendas.

I'm just a fact checker.

With that in mind, Ruth, please explain the following:

According to the indictment, the distributors included: KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com

Whois info for, performancemarketingltd.com:
Registrant:
PMG
Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J 3V8
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Whois info for, extremepay.com:
Registrant:
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718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
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"the only way we're connected is through this crap posted on these boards..."
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Haha oh shit.
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I have nothing against ExtremePay, I have nothing for them, I don't know them nor anyone there. I have no agendas.

I'm just a fact checker.

With that in mind, Ruth, please explain the following:

According to the indictment, the distributors included: KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com

Whois info for, performancemarketingltd.com:
Registrant:
PMG
Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J 3V8
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Whois info for, extremepay.com:
Registrant:
Zambanie Enterprises
Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J3V8
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"the only way we're connected is through this crap posted on these boards..."

Drav is a regular Sherlock Holmes!
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Yeah - good find Drav

Also Herbalamerica.com, which share the same IP as Performancemarketingltd.com has this info:

Registrant:
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Suite #659
718-333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, bc v7j 3v9
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Domain name: HERBALAMERICA.COM

Administrative Contact:
PMG, PMG
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718-333 Brooksbank Ave
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000-000-0000
zambanie@hotmail.com

Technical Contact:
PMG, PMG
Suite #659
718-333 Brooksbank Ave
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000-000-0000
zambanie@hotmail.com

And extremepay.com is registred by Zambanie Enterprises

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I have nothing against ExtremePay, I have nothing for them, I don't know them nor anyone there. I have no agendas.

I'm just a fact checker.

With that in mind, Ruth, please explain the following:

According to the indictment, the distributors included: KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com

Whois info for, performancemarketingltd.com:
Registrant:
PMG
Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J 3V8
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Whois info for, extremepay.com:
Registrant:
Zambanie Enterprises
Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J3V8
CA

"the only way we're connected is through this crap posted on these boards..."
Jace for the record Street Racer is one of our loyal members but he doesnt fill any ofifical capacity at Oprano.

Extreme pay reps.... this is twice youve come by to say bring it and when someone does you go home for the weekend.

Drav's got no axe to grind with you so where are you now?
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As I understand it the DEA's complaint is this:

Operation “Cyber Chase” targeted major pharmaceutical drug traffickers who allegedly shipped Schedule II-V pharmaceutical controlled substances including narcotics, amphetamines, and anabolic steroids directly to buyers of all ages without the medical examination by a physician required by U.S. law.

(Taken from: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042005.html)

These guys were committing a number of very serious crimes:

1) Importing of class II drugs into the US. Heroin is a class II drug so it is no different in the eyes of the law than someone mailing you a bag of heroin.

2) Repackaging drugs within the US. They were basically splitting up bags of pills sent to them and resending them without any pharmacist's license. Again consider the heroin analogy and you'll see its no different to dealing.

3) Using non FDA approved drugs. This is illegal if you are a doctor or pharmacist or not. Customs will occasionally allow special dispensation for certain drugs if, for example, a life saving or prolonging drug is unavailable in the US. But this dispensation must be sought on a personal level.

4) Failure to provide a doctor's medical examination. These can be only provided through a US licensed doctor and in the case of vicodin, oxycodone, phentermine etc. one with a DEA license. As I understand it however an online questionnaire, if reviewed by a doctor, does constitute a medical examination. But these guys weren't even doing that.

The operation appears to have been sparked by the overdose death of a minor who had ordered vicodin from one of these operators. The operator I believe received a 20 year sentence.

I should add most of this information was gleaned from a lawyer we contacted regarding the legality of setting up an internet pharmacy. He confirmed our common sense thoughts on this practice and as a result we didn't touch it with a bargepole.
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Wheres all that Extreme Pay counterspin now?
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As I understand it the DEA's complaint is this:

Operation “Cyber Chase” targeted major pharmaceutical drug traffickers who allegedly shipped Schedule II-V pharmaceutical controlled substances including narcotics, amphetamines, and anabolic steroids directly to buyers of all ages without the medical examination by a physician required by U.S. law.

(Taken from: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042005.html)

These guys were committing a number of very serious crimes:

1) Importing of class II drugs into the US. Heroin is a class II drug so it is no different in the eyes of the law than someone mailing you a bag of heroin.

2) Repackaging drugs within the US. They were basically splitting up bags of pills sent to them and resending them without any pharmacist's license. Again consider the heroin analogy and you'll see its no different to dealing.

3) Using non FDA approved drugs. This is illegal if you are a doctor or pharmacist or not. Customs will occasionally allow special dispensation for certain drugs if, for example, a life saving or prolonging drug is unavailable in the US. But this dispensation must be sought on a personal level.

4) Failure to provide a doctor's medical examination. These can be only provided through a US licensed doctor and in the case of vicodin, oxycodone, phentermine etc. one with a DEA license. As I understand it however an online questionnaire, if reviewed by a doctor, does constitute a medical examination. But these guys weren't even doing that.

The operation appears to have been sparked by the overdose death of a minor who had ordered vicodin from one of these operators. The operator I believe received a 20 year sentence.

I should add most of this information was gleaned from a lawyer we contacted regarding the legality of setting up an internet pharmacy. He confirmed our common sense thoughts on this practice and as a result we didn't touch it with a bargepole.
Wow! Excellent information Technick
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WOw just wow, as Gonzo said, Dravyk is impartial and has nothing against you as you implied streetracer did Ruth, so what is the truth? care to tell us? or in your mind have you already and are you standing by the " it is not us story" ?
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As I understand it the DEA's complaint is this:

Operation “Cyber Chase” targeted major pharmaceutical drug traffickers who allegedly shipped Schedule II-V pharmaceutical controlled substances including narcotics, amphetamines, and anabolic steroids directly to buyers of all ages without the medical examination by a physician required by U.S. law.

(Taken from: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/pressrel/pr042005.html)

These guys were committing a number of very serious crimes:

1) Importing of class II drugs into the US. Heroin is a class II drug so it is no different in the eyes of the law than someone mailing you a bag of heroin.

2) Repackaging drugs within the US. They were basically splitting up bags of pills sent to them and resending them without any pharmacist's license. Again consider the heroin analogy and you'll see its no different to dealing.

3) Using non FDA approved drugs. This is illegal if you are a doctor or pharmacist or not. Customs will occasionally allow special dispensation for certain drugs if, for example, a life saving or prolonging drug is unavailable in the US. But this dispensation must be sought on a personal level.

4) Failure to provide a doctor's medical examination. These can be only provided through a US licensed doctor and in the case of vicodin, oxycodone, phentermine etc. one with a DEA license. As I understand it however an online questionnaire, if reviewed by a doctor, does constitute a medical examination. But these guys weren't even doing that.

The operation appears to have been sparked by the overdose death of a minor who had ordered vicodin from one of these operators. The operator I believe received a 20 year sentence.

I should add most of this information was gleaned from a lawyer we contacted regarding the legality of setting up an internet pharmacy. He confirmed our common sense thoughts on this practice and as a result we didn't touch it with a bargepole.
Interesting.

Very interesting.

Just reading those points made would definately make the choice who I would do business with.
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Exactly!!

... hence who I do , do business with , and who I recommend people to talk to
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Extreme Pays = Extreme Jail time.

Funny how when Drav connected the dots the mouths got shut. Ruth since your going to need a new job I think Iraq is looking for a new Minister of Information.
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It's alright, i forgive ruth...she is only trying to cover their ass.

Ruth, monster.com is a good place to start
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I have nothing against ExtremePay, I have nothing for them, I don't know them nor anyone there. I have no agendas.

I'm just a fact checker.

With that in mind, Ruth, please explain the following:

According to the indictment, the distributors included: KEVIN ATKINSON (operator of performancemarketingltd.com

Whois info for, performancemarketingltd.com:
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Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J 3V8
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Whois info for, extremepay.com:
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Zambanie Enterprises
Suite #659
718 - 333 Brooksbank Ave
North Vancouver, BC V7J3V8
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"the only way we're connected is through this crap posted on these boards..."
... wonder why ruth never responded to this ??
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Funny how when Drav connected the dots the mouths got shut. Ruth since your going to need a new job I think Iraq is looking for a new Minister of Information.
i always enjoy how people in the wrong tend to push until it is proved in an open forum that they are wrong.
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The Internet doesn't shield you from the law - just because you do it on-line doesn't release you from anything. Anyone caught like this deserves what they get. Drug trafficing is illegal.

Now... They could have got away with it doing high BP meds, Antibiotics, antacids and so on - but scheduled drugs?

They were inviting prison sentences right there...
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