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Old 02-14-2005   #1
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Purely hypothetical ..

Say you are married and have two children. Would it be appropriate to go out for a Family Valentine's Day dinner? You know, to show your whole family you love them? Or is it all about the two?
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Purely hypothetical ..

Say you are married and have two children. Would it be appropriate to go out for a Family Valentine's Day dinner? You know, to show your whole family you love them? Or is it all about the two?
Colin, I have had a couple drinks so I am easily confused...

BUT

If you are asking if it is O.K. to go on a V-Day date with 2 kids that are your children (thought you only had one prior to the one pending?) and their mother on V-Day it is very wrong mate... Especially if she acts at ALL like she has hopes mate.

Now taking your two kids (again thought you only had one, but this is hypothetical) on a OUTING 'as long as they are o.k. with it' with your current girl you are excpecting that is a different situation.

I have my reasons for saying this, let's just say I have been "the kid" in a similar situation to both of the above Neither were pretty, but if one had been with honesty I could of handled it.
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I wouldn't say it's inappropriate...but it would totally depend on the woman methinks.
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My sadness is gonna make me some money!! Valentines evening kids camp! They can eat candy and work with construction paper while you and the misses are out on the town and havin' a roll in the hay. Only 150 per child "because valentines day is priceless"
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I actually think it is not appropriate to bring kids out on Valentines Day - has nothing to do with a family or anything else.

Other people going out to eat on VD do not want to see your kids, or anyone else's for that matter.

On the flip side It is VERY important to kids that they feel special so make it a point to get them stuff as well
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Unless you have a selfish women I think it it very appropriate. Growing up My dad always did something with all of us and then had a little something extra for my mom.
My husband and I just give the kids valentine gifts.
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I like the idea of Valentine's Day gifts for the kids. I sent my daughter her favorite thing .. money.
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Unless you have a selfish women I think it it very appropriate. Growing up My dad always did something with all of us and then had a little something extra for my mom.
My husband and I just give the kids valentine gifts.
I agree. My family's going out tonight and it will include a 2 year old and 6 month old.
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Valentine's Day is your swethearts day, so I would maybe do something early, like heart shaped cookies or something for the kids, but then take your significant other out...just the 2 of you...
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Hmmm... I am with Carly and Peaches on this one. I don't really see a problem.





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it depends on whether the two ever get a night alone. If you don't, a night away from the family, just the two would be better, i would think. You can go out with the kids any night
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Colin I can go one further....

Is it appropriate to take your ex out on Valentines weekend when the current mustard eater scheduled a trade show for the weekend?

Add in a pair of black pearl earrings that match the necklace that hes still pissed off about...

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You went so far that I can't hear you.
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I had a sitter for the kid and we went to a nice restaurant. However, I suck and didn't do anything else as always and my wife got me some candy. I will learn one of these days.
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Totally depends on the woman!! No right or wrong answer here as it would annoy some and others would love it.
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Let me preface my comments with a disclaimer:

I hate Valentine's day, Jen hates Valentine's day. It is an invented holiday to feed the appetites of Hallmark, American Greetings, Russell Stovers and various other members of the military/industrial complex. It helps make the fatcats fatter at the expense of the proletariat.

Now that that is behind me:

It is always ok to take the family (have to agree with Jeff, appropriate restaurant selection of course). You can always work a whole plan around it with after dinner the kids being dropped off at home or with a baby sitter and then Mom going off to get her special valentine's day present (Jen's is usually a trip to the local strip club with me.... ) .


But what do I know, I haven't done a Valentine's day present since I got married...........
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Re: the kids in the restaurant thing... it really depends upon the kids - or more important, the parents. I've seen parents that just let their kids run wild - like my sister, who wisely doesn't take her almost 3 year-old out to restaurants anymore.

I was lucky - my son was great @ restaurants from birth. We took him everywhere with us and he was always the "perfect little man" at the table. Then came along his sister who was in the "terribles 2's" from the time she could speak all the way until she was nearly 5. lol We were spoiled with the first, but with the 2nd - no, we didn't go out to "nice" restaurants.

I agree - I cringe everytime I see kids running about, screaming and/or yelling and the parents doing nothing to correct/stop it or LEAVE. I wouldn't have been OK with ruining everyone else's dinner like that.

Re: taking the wife/kids out for Valentine's Day dinner - again I'd have to say it depends upon the wife... we've done this in the past and I've been very cool with it. In fact, we've taken the kids out for our anniversary dinner as well. We're very close so that's cool - it would have felt funny NOT to have had them with us. But we do things that are "just for mom and dad" - like movies, trips, shopping days and lunches. You've got to have that one-on-one time as well. It's important.
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Valentine's Day is a Hallmark holiday, do what makes you happy lol
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I agree with kath and jeff. I know you are a family...and you deserve to go out to eat...but there is a whole resturaunt full of people who work hard for their living and are enjoying an american tradition, valentines day, with each other. Your little kids talking loudly or crying or whatever completely changes the mood of the resturant for everyone. There's a reason the lights are dim, there's a reason people are dressed up....there's a reason they didn't go to dennys. They want some nice atmosphere that they deserve on what is a very special day for alot of couples. I know you're a paying customer too...but show some respect for those out on a nice valentines date. If you really want to take the kids...go to a more kid friendly place. If there were any 4 year old brats talking loudly or crying at the Grand Lux last night, interrupting my extremely expensive romantic dinner, I'd have gotten up and thrown them out the window, and bludgened the parents with our champagne bottle.
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I agree with kath and jeff. I know you are a family...and you deserve to go out to eat...but there is a whole resturaunt full of people who work hard for their living and are enjoying an american tradition, valentines day, with each other. Your little kids talking loudly or crying or whatever completely changes the mood of the resturant for everyone. There's a reason the lights are dim, there's a reason people are dressed up....there's a reason they didn't go to dennys. They want some nice atmosphere that they deserve on what is a very special day for alot of couples. I know you're a paying customer too...but show some respect for those out on a nice valentines date. If you really want to take the kids...go to a more kid friendly place. If there were any 4 year old brats talking loudly or crying at the Grand Lux last night, interrupting my extremely expensive romantic dinner, I'd have gotten up and thrown them out the window, and bludgened the parents with our champagne bottle.
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Here is a tip.....

If someone is well off enough to take his wife and kids to a very expensive restaurant , be very careful over who you try to throw through a window.

With the best will in the world Steve , I'd wipe the fucking floor with you. And I would say there is not a single restaurant that I frequent that would blame me ;-))
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Nick, the last thing unmarried folk want to be reminded on valentines day is the consequences of sex.
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However I would think it should be left to the proprietor to decide who is allowed in.
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Oh God, this has taken a turn for the fucking funny. When I was taking another 'break' from college (and life in general at that point), I worked in one of the nicest restaurants in town. The kind of place that's open Monday to Saturday from 6 pm to 10 pm, doesn't do lunch and wouldn't even think about getting out of bed for breakfast.

The days the entire staff hated working were New Years Eve and Valentines Day. People that haven't spent 25 bucks on a piece of fish in their entire life, hell that didn't even know the difference between a grilled ahi and a pan seared grouper, come out to have dinner.

99% of those people don't order appetizers, they don't order dessert, they don't order a bottle of wine, and they don't tip.

I'd take my corporate regulars any minute and any day over the nonsense that we put up with then.

I'd probably help Nick toss someone out the window.
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You ever had foie gras?

My kids adore it. ;-)))

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Oh God, this has taken a turn for the fucking funny. When I was taking another 'break' from college (and life in general at that point), I worked in one of the nicest restaurants in town. The kind of place that's open Monday to Saturday from 6 pm to 10 pm, doesn't do lunch and wouldn't even think about getting out of bed for breakfast.

The days the entire staff hated working were New Years Eve and Valentines Day. People that haven't spent 25 bucks on a piece of fish in their entire life, hell that didn't even know the difference between a grilled ahi and a pan seared grouper, come out to have dinner.

99% of those people don't order appetizers, they don't order dessert, they don't order a bottle of wine, and they don't tip.

I'd take my corporate regulars any minute and any day over the nonsense that we put up with then.

I'd probably help Nick toss someone out the window.
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My kids adore it. ;-)))

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I'm relieved.Thanks so much. ;-))
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Old 02-14-2005   #44
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We've done this before Steve...

I bought my first Ferarri at 21.

It was a 78/79 308GTS same as "Magnums" It was second hand
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So we agree, my penis is bigger.


Have a good valentines day nick.
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Steve,

Just a tip before making general statements. Some people don't get cowed by aggression.

I've watched Nick throw 20 year wannabes over tables for trying to be the man.

Hell last time at a clube in Vancouver, this guy took my seat at the bar and was disrepectful to my girlfriend, Nick pushed him out of the seat and I knocked his ass even further.

Guess who got kicked out the club escorted by 4 very big gentlemen? Not us, we were too busy ordering the Cristal.
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Originally posted by Anthony@Feb 14 2005, 06:57 PM
Steve,

Just a tip before making general statements. Some people don't get cowed by aggression.

I've watched Nick throw 20 year wannabes over tables for trying to be the man.

Hell last time at a clube in Vancouver, this guy took my seat at the bar and was disrepectful to my girlfriend, Nick pushed him out of the seat and I knocked his ass even further.

Guess who got kicked out the club escorted by 4 very big gentlemen? Not us, we were too busy ordering the Cristal.
Allledgedly....

LOL

I plead the "had it coming clause".
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Well, to put everyone's mind at ease....the place was flooded with kids and the table in the same room as ours was filled with 12 VERY, VERY loud women (single I'm presuming) that drowned out anything we could produce.

No crying from either child the whole night, we ordered appetizers, dinner, drinks, and dessert and the waiter got a $40 tip on a $180 tab.

It was funny because there was a couple next to us celebrating Valentine's Day and my brother's reaction was "Why would a couple come here for a Valentine's dinner if they didn't have kids?". :P

My son went to several upscale restaurants when he was growing up. 90% of the time was better behaved than many adults, but if there was even a hint of a problem, he was out the door. Period. In fact, I still make him sit in the car if he gets pissy while we're eating out
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Originally posted by Peaches@Feb 15 2005, 09:10 AM
My son went to several upscale restaurants when he was growing up. 90% of the time was better behaved than many adults, but if there was even a hint of a problem, he was out the door. Period. In fact, I still make him sit in the car if he gets pissy while we're eating out
That - and anyone who has met CT can attest - is because you are a PARENT.

The problem is not actually children, like so many things it is parents.

I still strongly support manditory abortions for people that can not demonstrate basic parenting skills.
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I still strongly support manditory abortions for people that can not demonstrate basic parenting skills.
Up to the age of 12.
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