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Old 12-21-2004   #1
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so...

How does it work these days..

In my old freehost days , we used to "skim" hits , of course.

I created "bannerfree.com" , because..a list with no banners.Awesome!!! hehehehe

No doubt it isn't skimmed though...............now ;-)))

I'd use that traffic as the water to blend in with the meat and noodles from SE and AVS sites.

Back then it was frowned upon. Never got caught of course.

We'd take all aol traffic.

Why? Few if any webhamsters used AOL.

Now I'm told it is totally acceptable practice. You can use the traffic for traffic trades after being filtered round some sponsors etc...


Who wants to educate me and bring me up to 2004/5?

ahahahahahaha first link list owner , TGP owner that says he doesn't skim is due any second....
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Bring back MK Stats@!!!!!
ahahahahhaha I remember Snowblind telling me he had no stats at all.......

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Why? Few if any webhamsters used AOL.
How long ago was this Nick? Dayam....AOL was a cash cow for tons of web'h'amsters between 99 and 2001.....

If you got in earlier....I envy you....
still is... ;-)))

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Bring back MK Stats@!!!!!
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Oh, the one major problem as i see it, and i could be wrong, is that after a couple of 'skims' you are in effect just recycling the same freeloading surfers around and around the same sites again.

Unless you have a way of breaking off the skim and sending them where you want them to go without your trades knowing about it
elaborate please..?


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but instead of just "skimming" the traffic generally wouldn't it be better to filter the traffic so that you control what traffic goes where.

ie...

the traffic is comprised...say

Bookmarkers 5%
SEs 2%
Traffic Trades 83%

then by browser..

by Isp , geographical location etc..

so that you can decide where you send the water , the noodles , or the meat?
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How long ago was this Nick? Dayam....AOL was a cash cow for tons of web'h'amsters between 99 and 2001.....

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Isnt the accepted norm to build traffic these days around the 60-70% figure for skims?

Remember seeing that posted somewhere recently.
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A skim ebook is obviously needed.
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Oh, the one major problem as i see it, and i could be wrong, is that after a couple of 'skims' you are in effect just recycling the same freeloading surfers around and around the same sites again.

Unless you have a way of breaking off the skim and sending them where you want them to go without your trades knowing about it
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Nick yep, most of the half decent trade scripts around atm will allow you to geo filter the traffic.

There are even a couple that will allow you to filter it based on the referring url.

The problem with such a broad sweeping statement.. google, tgp, skimmed is that for some, google traffic converts less than tgp traffic.

If a webhamster doesnt know how to successfully market most types of traffic they find themselves catering their business to the single traffic source they can successfully market to and, more often than not, this is TGP traffic
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How long ago was this Nick? Dayam....AOL was a cash cow for tons of web'h'amsters between 99 and 2001.....

If you got in earlier....I envy you....
AOL made a few hamsters into Guinea Pigs....
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Most people DID get paid , and well.



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Most of the trade scripts are capable of rating the traffic and fluctuating the trade based on that. Running sites based on skim or trades is a very tedious business and I am inclined to think that by the time it gets figured out fully, it will not be viable. That energy could have been focused on more viable avenues of traffic sources.

Of course, I could be very naive. And of course, maybe I did not read the entire thread, once again.

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Most of the trade scripts are capable of rating the traffic and fluctuating the trade based on that. Running sites based on skim or trades is a very tedious business and I am inclined to think that by the time it gets figured out fully, it will not be viable. That energy could have been focused on more viable avenues of traffic sources.

Of course, I could be very naive. And of course, maybe I did not read the entire thread, once again.

Just my 2 cents nevertheless.
just keep circliung your own traffic back and forth along with your trades and then once those numbers are well puffed up, sell gallery spots for a flat rate
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I don't think anyone has every said that on a board anyway.

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Most people DID get paid , and well.

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Kaiser never did pay me on my last $250 check! No joke!

Nearly forgot about that one. <_<
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Go find him at adtech.

Cause I paid every webmaster all the money for that shit.

Otherwise trafficinc wouldn't of come into being.

The moneys were paid to him then , from memory , then he was suppsed to take 0.25 cents per click for himself and pay on..
Perhaps he thought you meant 25 cents per click.
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"The water to my noodles and meat."

LOL! Great comparison nick!
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LOL! Great comparison nick!
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