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I was sent something, and I started doinga little snooping. It appears that Kerry spent some time in Paris "negotiating" with VietComs.
Do you remember this?
What would Kerry be doing over in Paris??
This is very troubling....
Here is the quote:
Quote:
The John Kerry camp should be careful about how much mud it flings. According
to media sources in New York for the campaign, a number of national media
outlets have already completed or close to completing several major
investigations into possible Kerry fundraising irregularities, as well as what
one media source calls "devastating" stories of Kerry's time in Paris when he
was meeting with Communist Vietnamese officials.
"Americans have no idea what Kerry was doing during that time in Paris," says a
journalist. "It makes the Swift Boat ads look lightweight by comparison."
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Sep 2 2004, 01:35 AM Didn't the original lyrics of this song involve Bill Clinton and the Soviet Politburo?
So this is a "No" then?
I hope this is BS. I really do.
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Originally posted by dantheman@Sep 2 2004, 09:44 AM just a hunch, but I betcha there's a few things that Kerry did back in the early 70's that he and his "people" hope to keep quiet
just a hunch
Dan, in early 70's I made a girl pregnant and I am keeping it hush-hush also....but please tell me what Bush was doing in early 70's and let's put your hunches to the test, because we pretty much KNOW
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QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Sep 2 2004, 09:50 AM)
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 2 2004, 09:34 AM
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Protesting in the US, is something I can handle. It is all-American.
Going over seas, to protest your country, and possibly negotiate with the ENEMY being a self proclaimed leader of the viet vets anti-war group is UN-AMERICAN.
In fact, I would say it could border on traiterous!!
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So far the most outrageously false statement in this thread has been made by Mike. Before I get to that, however ...
Dan ... get fucking real, would you?
"didnt server overseas(his unit wasnt called up)" - less than 1% of the 5,000,000 people who served in Vietnam were reservists. People went into the Guard and Reserves TO AVOID GOING TO VIETNAM. That is a well-known fact, not some liberal lie.
"didnt get any medals that are umm, unclear even to those that were there" Doesn't it bother you that some of the same people who gave him those medals are now the ones who question the awarding of them? You were in the service, Dan ... you know how those things work. I can understand why some people might buy into the questionable medals stuff, but you, of all people, should know better.
This is a tried-and-tested Republican tactic - it's the "Clinton secretly went to Moscow" lyrics rewritten. Like the "Bush and Cheney started the war to enrich Haliburon" theory by some on the left, it has an appeal to certain people. I wonder if it ever will stop suprising me when people I assume are reasonably intelligent barf up this sort of intellecutal pablum.
Oh yeah ... the biggest lie in this thread.
Quote:
I hope this is BS. I really do.
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You guys are so anti-Bush you would vote for Lucifer. You would explain away Charles Manson's crimes if he was running against Bush.
I for one am interested in IF Kerry wasin paris durin his time, and what he was doing there. I would like to hear it fomr HIS mouth.
If he was their for a vacation, or to see museums - great.
But Kerry's past actions and statements have my suspicious.
I am sure we will see more about this soon.
My question is why did other Democrats running against him in Primary not make this an issue? Did they not have the research? Or ina democrat primary protesting against the US in a foreign country is a possitive?
I was really worried that Bush was going to lose - and really he has dropped the ball enough to lose - but Kerry might be the worst Dem candidate EVER!!! At least baggage wise....
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MikeAI,
you and liberals are the faces of the same coin....just 2 different sides.
I am a coin collector and I smile when "heads" claim they are any better than "tails".
You guys are so anti-Kerry you would believe Lucifer. You would question the patriotism of George Wahstington if he was running against Bush.
Meni AI, er, Raw Mike, no offense, but I'm not going to take your word on this.
Where did you get/are you getting this information? Where did you extract your original cut and paste from? What websites/sources has your "reasearch" turned up?
I figure there are a couple of possibilities as to why no Democrats made this an issue in the primary campaign. (I also have an opinion as to which one you believe.)
1. They are all a part of the conspiracy to destroy America.
2. It's not really an issue at all - just another red herring floated out by the Republicans to attract the stupid, the ignorant, the weak minded and other assorted parrots and puppies to cling to - the sort of people either too fucking stupid or too desperate to believe that they don't recognize this as a favorite Republican tactic.
I can certainly understand why the Bush campaign and its fellow travellers would rather talk about the 70s ... talking about today is certainly not in their best interests.
So right on, brother ... let's talk about who Kerry talked to in Paris in the 70s instead of why Bush and the Republicans can spend the same amount of money PER DAY in Iraq as we've spent SINCE 9/11 on securing our ports. Lets do some fearmongering about tax and spend Democrats and ignore the consequences of the actions of the don't tax and spend anyway Republicans. Lets sing the "evil trial lawyers" song loud enough to drown out anyone talking about the Pharmacutical Republicans.
I wonder if you even know how predictable you are?
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 1 2004, 09:39 PM I was sent something, and I started doinga little snooping. It appears that Kerry spent some time in Paris "negotiating" with VietComs.
Do you remember this?
What would Kerry be doing over in Paris??
This is very troubling....
Here is the quote:
Quote:
The John Kerry camp should be careful about how much mud it flings. According
to media sources in New York for the campaign, a number of national media
outlets have already completed or close to completing several major
investigations into possible Kerry fundraising irregularities, as well as what
one media source calls "devastating" stories of Kerry's time in Paris when he
was meeting with Communist Vietnamese officials.
"Americans have no idea what Kerry was doing during that time in Paris," says a
journalist. "It makes the Swift Boat ads look lightweight by comparison."
LOL You were sent this and started snooping? You read it on GFY...come on...LOL
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 2 2004, 11:41 AM You guys are so anti-Bush you would vote for Lucifer. You would explain away Charles Manson's crimes if he was running against Bush.
Lucifer had it right until power went to his head...hey, that sounds familiar....
now, Asmodeus, there was a weirdo!
Charles Manson? hahah, you read my post on GFY about that fucking with boobmaster...although, remember, Charles didn't kill anyone, he only instigated...
but don't worry...if Chuck was running, I'd check the box next to W's name...
Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 2 2004, 09:31 AM oh puuuhleeze!
MikeAI would NEVER repost on Oprano the GFY speculations! Even PD would NEVER aquse him of that!!!!
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Sep 2 2004, 12:31 PM oh puuuhleeze!
MikeAI would NEVER repost on Oprano the GFY speculations! Even PD would NEVER aquse him of that!!!!
I read and post on GFY.
However it is turning into a bigger zoo then it was before.... not much business going on over there.
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QUOTE (eroswebmaster @ Sep 2 2004, 02:39 PM)
Quote:
Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 2 2004, 11:12 AM
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I agree...they need to take some of that ad money and hire some full time moderators.
There was a link to CP up for hours..no one there to edit the thread.
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Originally posted by eroswebmaster@Sep 2 2004, 02:43 PM I agree...they need to take some of that ad money and hire some full time moderators.
There was a link to CP up for hours..no one there to edit the thread.
I agree.
However, the past 2 weeks have shown that Joe cares more about money and lets people outlandishly create fake drama to get attention to their promos.
The thing is, its not the morons now who are killing GFY, its the next generation who have seen what you can get away with, who will push the envelope - out attacking and slandering even the people we see today.
Hopefully Joe will clean up the mess before it is too late. This goes beyond just in a business sense, posts on message boards can be used in lawsuits. GFY is a potential HUGE legal liability....
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LOL you are correct about posts on message boards being used in lawsuits and I've seen others post to the contrary..but I have personally witnessed it.
I spent some time working for an online auction company before venturing into adult and deservedly so they were being bashed on the boards right and left by a number of reputable users and some anonymous trolls..this went on at auctionwatch.com and carried over into some ezboard message boards and the site owner initiated legal action.
Auctionwatch.com would no longer even allow the sites name to be mentioned, and these 2 sisters who were leading the cause shut up rather quickly as did a number of others.
The whole fake drama is another issue entirely. I know we're really venturing off topic here but whether it's fake or not and I'm not privy to that information all I get to see is a couple of posters or company reps behaving in a manner that does not suggest that I should initiate business deals with either.
I have dealt with a few of the drama queens on the boards and that has brought me nothing but trouble. You usually end up having to hold their hands entirely through whatever process you're going through with them.
I can only assume it's because if you need drama in your public lives, there's a good chance you need it in your private life as well.
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Originally posted by eroswebmaster@Sep 2 2004, 03:05 PM LOL you are correct about posts on message boards being used in lawsuits and I've seen others post to the contrary..but I have personally witnessed it.
I spent some time working for an online auction company before venturing into adult and deservedly so they were being bashed on the boards right and left by a number of reputable users and some anonymous trolls..this went on at auctionwatch.com and carried over into some ezboard message boards and the site owner initiated legal action.
Auctionwatch.com would no longer even allow the sites name to be mentioned, and these 2 sisters who were leading the cause shut up rather quickly as did a number of others.
The whole fake drama is another issue entirely. I know we're really venturing off topic here but whether it's fake or not and I'm not privy to that information all I get to see is a couple of posters or company reps behaving in a manner that does not suggest that I should initiate business deals with either.
I have dealt with a few of the drama queens on the boards and that has brought me nothing but trouble. You usually end up having to hold their hands entirely through whatever process you're going through with them.
I can only assume it's because if you need drama in your public lives, there's a good chance you need it in your private life as well.
I agree 100% with this post.
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Originally posted by eroswebmaster@Sep 2 2004, 12:05 PM LOL you are correct about posts on message boards being used in lawsuits and I've seen others post to the contrary..but I have personally witnessed it.
I spent some time working for an online auction company before venturing into adult and deservedly so they were being bashed on the boards right and left by a number of reputable users and some anonymous trolls..this went on at auctionwatch.com and carried over into some ezboard message boards and the site owner initiated legal action.
Auctionwatch.com would no longer even allow the sites name to be mentioned, and these 2 sisters who were leading the cause shut up rather quickly as did a number of others.
The whole fake drama is another issue entirely. I know we're really venturing off topic here but whether it's fake or not and I'm not privy to that information all I get to see is a couple of posters or company reps behaving in a manner that does not suggest that I should initiate business deals with either.
I have dealt with a few of the drama queens on the boards and that has brought me nothing but trouble. You usually end up having to hold their hands entirely through whatever process you're going through with them.
I can only assume it's because if you need drama in your public lives, there's a good chance you need it in your private life as well.
Well I have heard that you can't draw an opinion of someone from their board "persona" but my theory is this. If they act like an asshole on the board then there is a 99.9% chance that the views they are reflecting and rants they are shouting are actual feelings that they would have in person. I have chosen not to do business with certain people because of their board personas. Money or not...if you act like a fucking asshole on the board, in person, or whatever, I don't want or need the headache of doing business with you. A dollar is not a dollar in that case to me. Maybe I am naive but I will stick with my own ethics every single time. I just want to be thought of as a good addition to the class of '04 and not a proverbial "thorn". Hopefully I am doing the right things to achieve that.
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back in the day there was pissing, but it was over real issues. Over business issues. Competition.
Also back in the day it was mutual pissing. Now it is random attacks, that get worse and worse trying to get people to particiapte and respond.
The best thing you can do is ignore the fools doing this, and don't do business with them. Maybe their bosses will wake up to reality.
I think you will see a muzzle being put on the dogs very soon.
The whole any press is good press does not always hold true.
As has been pointed out in some of the wilder piss matches if you can gain X amount of affiliates by having a piss match imagine how many you would have if you didn't alienate others during that same pissing match.
Also I don't know if I want to deal with affiliates who sign up to a program based on someone going nuts on a message board...you really have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel intellectually IMO..but then again if they can be swayed that easily...maybe they are malleable enough to turn into something.
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funny how the conservatives are up in arms over Kerry's opposition to the Vietnam War after he served in Vietnam, a stance which has since been proven correct and a decision he based on firsthand knowledge, but they don't care about the fact that Reagan negotiated with Iran to extend the duration of the American hostages kidnapping for political reasons or that he treasonously subverted the will of the Congress and the American people in Iran-Contra.
They try to find something wrong with Kerry's war medals but don't care about the fact that Bush went AWOL doing National Guard after his daddy pulled strings to get him in there and keep him out of a war Bush Sr. gladly sent other men's sons to die in. They think Clinton's job performance is an insignificant matter compared to the fact that he got a blowjob, but will forgive Bush Jr., a man who was never successful at anything before he had the Presidency handed to him, any mistake, any lie, any idiocy.
Republicans want you to think that it is unpatriotic to oppose Bush, or even to question his obviously ham-handed policies. Their war isn't with the Democrats, it's with democracy itself.
What's REALLY funny are all the 'Libertarians' jumping on board for every attempt the Conservatives make to limit the power of the individual and increase the surveillance, seizure and arrest power of the federal govt. That really cracks me up.
Hey Dig420 you're off topic man...we were discussing board wars...uh...hey man never mind.
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Originally posted by dig420@Sep 2 2004, 07:25 PM funny how the conservatives are up in arms over Kerry's opposition to the Vietnam War after he served in Vietnam, a stance which has since been proven correct and a decision he based on firsthand knowledge, but they don't care about the fact that Reagan negotiated with Iran to extend the duration of the American hostages kidnapping for political reasons or that he treasonously subverted the will of the Congress and the American people in Iran-Contra.
They try to find something wrong with Kerry's war medals but don't care about the fact that Bush went AWOL doing National Guard after his daddy pulled strings to get him in there and keep him out of a war Bush Sr. gladly sent other men's sons to die in. They think Clinton's job performance is an insignificant matter compared to the fact that he got a blowjob, but will forgive Bush Jr., a man who was never successful at anything before he had the Presidency handed to him, any mistake, any lie, any idiocy.
Republicans want you to think that it is unpatriotic to oppose Bush, or even to question his obviously ham-handed policies. Their war isn't with the Democrats, it's with democracy itself.
What's REALLY funny are all the 'Libertarians' jumping on board for every attempt the Conservatives make to limit the power of the individual and increase the surveillance, seizure and arrest power of the federal govt. That really cracks me up.
Republicans are funny people.
Dig. Kerry definatley had right to protest the war. I just want Kerry to be honest, let the chips fall where they may.
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 1 2004, 09:39 PM I was sent something, and I started doinga little snooping. It appears that Kerry spent some time in Paris "negotiating" with VietComs.
Do you remember this?
What would Kerry be doing over in Paris??
This is very troubling....
Here is the quote:
Quote:
The John Kerry camp should be careful about how much mud it flings. According
to media sources in New York for the campaign, a number of national media
outlets have already completed or close to completing several major
investigations into possible Kerry fundraising irregularities, as well as what
one media source calls "devastating" stories of Kerry's time in Paris when he
was meeting with Communist Vietnamese officials.
"Americans have no idea what Kerry was doing during that time in Paris," says a
journalist. "It makes the Swift Boat ads look lightweight by comparison."
Originally posted by dantheman@Sep 2 2004, 06:44 AM just a hunch, but I betcha there's a few things that Kerry did back in the early 70's that he and his "people" hope to keep quiet
just a hunch
I think that goes for anyone over the age of 17 in the 70s
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