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Old 05-13-2004   #1
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Originally posted by Rolo@May 12 2004, 08:42 AM
I talked with a former muslim a few months ago - he was telling me that the moderate muslim is a myth... the koranīs view on humans as either being muslim or infidel leaved no compromise - islam and real democracy/freedom as we know could not coexist - therefor the view that muslims could be moderated and integrated into a western style democracy/freedom was utopia.

The more I think and read about what he said, the more I have too agree... ex.

where are the movement of moderate muslims?
why do all muslims countries have anti western and jewish propaganda? (even those who are supposed to be "democratic")
why are there problems all the places where muslims have to coexist with other religions or ideologies?

I still think freedom is worth fighting for in the middleeast, but not freedom for "moderate muslims", but for people who want to live without religion as the ruling force.
moderate muslims exist!

I lived in student hostel in Leningrad with palestinians, trained by KGB,
and they didn't wanna kill russians(unless they were jews)
I call them moderate muslims
;-))))

I beat the living shit out of one and no KGB training helped him...
;-)))
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