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Old 02-01-2004   #1
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When i was young, i learned a very powerful lesson about biting the hand that feeds you.

Growing up fishing for Salmon every summer in Alaska taught me some funny lessons about the ignorance of people and their tendency to bite the hand that feeds them.

Salmon prices climbed all of my life from about .40 a pound for Red Salmon when i was a little boy... all the way up to about 2.80 per pound in 1988. Then it stopped. in 1989, it started to fall as the world market became flooded and farmed fish started to take a bigger and bigger share of the market.

Fishermen of course, were in a panic... "we are getting fucked" was the typical reaction. Thats a big part of the idiocy of people... they like to lay blame elsewhere to excuse their failures. Particularly their failure to remain competitive. Being mathematically challenged and more or less retarded as a general rule, they would keep making the same wrong analogies and assumptions based on flawed and wrong information to back up their point. For example, they would say "I saw Filets in the store for $3.99/pound and they are buying the fish from us for $1.00 per pound" - This of course ignores some simple math that even a child can comprehend. You cut of the head and remove the guts, you lose 30% of the body weight or so. You fillet it and remove the skin you lose another 25% or so. Processing, packaging, freezing, storage, transportation, storage again, distribution etc etc etc. It all costs money. Fishermen could never grasp that they were getting 1.00 per pound, whereas everyone else in the chain was fighting to make a nickel.

They did everything possible to convince themselves that they were victems and did little to organize, get thier shit together, market their product better, work closer with domestic buyers and processors and so on.

At the same time, less and less fish were returning. Like everything in nature, the size of the returns are cyclical in nature and are never the same. The panic escalated.

So what do they do? Accept the mathematical realities? Accept financial and market realities? Start looking at how to increase production? Start their own businesses? Start finding ways to market thier own fish themselves directly to retailers and wholesalers? Start getting creative?... haha. of course not. All of Alaska is divided into areas and you are required a special permit to fish in each area. They all just started suing eachother claiming that each area was catching fish intended for a their own area.

That accomplished nothing... so the retards got an even better idea... sue the big Japanese companies that buy all the salmon for "fucking them every year". So... they successfully sued 3-4 of the biggest Japanese fish buyers. The same buyers that bought probably about 80% or more of the salmon from Alaska. (sort of like 80% of adult CC transactions are from Visa and MC)

They won. It was a bix price fixing case.

Those same Japanese buyers said "who needs the fucking headaches with you idiots" and pulled out of Alaska, scaled back their operations and started buying more and more Norwegian and Chilean farmed fish and other farmed fish.

The salmon industry in Alaska has collapsed completely and never recovered.


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