New Spam Law

[Nickatilynx]

I'd particularly like to hear from hosts on this.

I actually comply with all of the requiremewnts of the new law.

So what are US hosts going to do , are they gonna welcome me with open arms?

Surely action from spamhaus ,spews and spamcop will all be illegsal in restraint of trade.

Be interested in peoples thought



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 10 2003, 09:59 AM

[Hooper]

great nick. now they're gonna have oprano in their referral logs and start sniffing around here.

[Nickatilynx]

They already do , but fair point , I'll remove it.

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Hooper@Dec 10 2003, 12:57 PM
great nick. now they're gonna have oprano in their referral logs and start sniffing around here.

LMAO!!

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 12:56 PM
I'd particularly like to hear from hosts on this.

I actually comply with all of the requiremewnts of the new law.

So what are US hosts going to do , are they gonna welcome me with open arms?

Surely action from spamhaus ,spews and spamcop will all be illegsal in restraint of trade.

Be interested in peoples thought

Spam Bastards!!!

[sarettah]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 12:56 PM
I actually comply with all of the requirements of the new law.

You're legal ????

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttt... ..........

Next thing you'll be telling us is you're going to church this sunday.......

[Pornwolf]

Shit. You are absolutely right Nick. I hadn't looked at it from a hosting perspective but technically this should take away the need for BP hosting.

[Nickatilynx]

Yup , pornwolf.

PLUS if spews, spamcop, or whatever says "Take these guys down or we are blocking your network"

Thats gotta be illegal (if it isn't actually illegal now)

[Hooper]

These fucks at the spamhaus etc.. get around business interference laws because they arent actually the ones doing the blocking. According to them they are just publishing a list of ip ranges that they refuse to accept mail from and the individual sysadmins are welcome to use it or not. So technically they're just publishing a list of ip's and then the sysadmins using them are boycotting your provider.

I fucking hate those whiney cock munching prick fuck asses.

[Nickatilynx]

Yeah thats what they claim the fucks.

But I reckon there claims become more tenuous everytime.

Plus you can't trace some of the orgainisations to sue them if you wanted to.

I think they are just sad.

They should devote the time to making money instead of being a selfappointed internet cop.

(shit ,don't get me on rant about those fucks)

;-)))



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 10 2003, 12:54 PM

[Bishop]

Spamhaus has contact information on their site for the worst offenders.. I love that! Its my own personal address book to find old friends.

[Bishop]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 03:53 PM
They should devote the time to making money instead of being a selfappointed internet cop.

(shit ,don't get me on rant about those fucks)

;-)))

Soooo... Nick, tell me.... how do you feel about Spamhaus? Are you comfortable with your feelings?

[JR]

Originally posted by Bishop@Dec 10 2003, 12:55 PM
Spamhaus has contact information on their site for the worst offenders.. I love that! Its my own personal address book to find old friends.

hahaha.

[Nickatilynx]

Spamhaus has contact information on their site for the worst offenders.. I love that! Its my own personal address book to find old friends.

LOL

There are a few names you'll recognise ;-)))))

It can get you a lot of non-adult contracts I hear



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Dec 10 2003, 01:00 PM

[[Labret]]

spammers shitting their pants makes me laugh.

You cocksuckers livelihoods are quickly coming to an end.


I will dance on your grave.

[Nickatilynx]

spammers shitting their pants makes me laugh.

You cocksuckers livelihoods are quickly coming to an end.


I will dance on your grave.

Moron.

The new law legitmnises bulk email.

[Bishop]

Originally posted by [Labret]@Dec 10 2003, 04:00 PM
I will dance on your grave.

You seem hostile Labret... so tell me.. tell me about your childhood.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 01:01 PM

Moron.

The new law legitmnises bulk email.

Yeah, I bet your lists are all clean triple optin with working remove me links... right?

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 04:01 PM

Moron.

The new law legitmnises bulk email.

Not only that, but it does not effect spammers outside the US.

[[Labret]]

Nobody wants spam. Nobody on Gods green earth wants to wake up to your shit in their email. nobody.

You people reak of the desperation I get from dialer pushers.

I wish I could get an internship with spamcop. I would work there for free.



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 10 2003, 01:07 PM

[Nickatilynx]

My lists have working links.

Absolutely ,Mike,it doesn't affect nonUS spammers...however ,like it or lump it a lot of foriegn ISPs follow the US regs.

So it even helps us non US people.

[Nickatilynx]

I'll tell you what ,labret....

You give me your address and I'll make a complaint about your beast sites.

I've already had the RCMP attend my offices over bulk email.

He even posted afterwards on the newsgroups

You sure aren't one to cast stones over how people make a living.

[Bishop]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 04:11 PM
You give me your address and I'll make a complaint about your beast sites.

Beast sites.. as in girls standing next to horses or girls like do the wild horny pony thing?

[Carrie]

Nick do you also provide a physical snail mail address in your emails? I saw that in the new law as well.

[Nickatilynx]

Beast sites.. as in girls standing next to horses or girls like do the wild horny pony thing?

yeah right!!!!

Nick do you also provide a physical snail mail address in your emails? I saw that in the new law as well.

I would do , no problem at all.

I am not a proxy stealing spammer never did that.

I operate legitimately from banks of servers.
The fact is doing it that way is and has been WORSE than just going through proxies.

It means:

a) I can be found
my IPs are blocked
c) and I have a physical presence to annoy and harrass.

By discouraging spam sent from "legitmate" mailers I believe these antispam orgainisations have worsened spamming.

Why?

The best way to get your mail in ,is through socks.
More sales (GREATLY more sales)

So why have the expense of banks of mail servers hosted somewhere if you can get a better return by hitting socks on your dsl or cable modem from the back bedroom.

I am careful in what I mail.I don't push the envelope at all.

Socks mailing can be more anonomous.You can hide.

....awww shit...there I go on a rant again. ;-))

[Dravyk]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Dec 10 2003, 05:04 PM
By discouraging spam sent from "legitmate" mailers I believe these antispam orgainisations have worsened spamming.

Not only worsened spamming ... but the blocks are worse than spam (the cure worse than the disease.) Over-zealous domain and IP blocking and other filtering have totally screwed up doing biz by email. It's ridiculous.

Btw, here's a handy place for all you legit bulk emailers: http://dmnews.com

[Nickatilynx]

Very true ,Drav.

I get legitmate mails I wanted to see stopped by my own spam filters !!!!

On socks I could get over 90% delievered.

[Pornwolf]

So, I'm really interested in seeing which hosts adjusts price and offers decent uptime. I imagine some of the companies that weren't quite large enough to get pink listed setups but have capable facilities will step up to the plate and take on some responsible mailers for a nice tidy 200%-300% profit on usual average server lease prices.

Sounds like a good opportunity for some of the adult hosts. I'm sure a lot of mailers would like to stop mailing from small outfits in Xao Mi ho, China.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Pornwolf@Dec 10 2003, 02:23 PM
So, I'm really interested in seeing which hosts adjusts price and offers decent uptime. I imagine some of the companies that weren't quite large enough to get pink listed setups but have capable facilities will step up to the plate and take on some responsible mailers for a nice tidy 200%-300% profit on usual average server lease prices.

Sounds like a good opportunity for some of the adult hosts. I'm sure a lot of mailers would like to stop mailing from small outfits in Xao Mi ho, China.

abso -fucking - lutely , pornwolf!!!!! :-))))

If they would , I'd be wiring money.

(And I hate parting with money) ;-))

Any hosts fitting the bill please icq Technick on #9352687

:-)))

[*KK*]

Originally posted by Bishop+Dec 10 2003, 12:56 PM-->