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Old 10-31-2003   #1
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Open Letter to Shawn Boday and Sextracker

As you know Shawn you have been a very naughty little boy of late

Im sure you know that there is quite a line up of lawyers waiting to speak to you and your company

Amongst those lawyers is OUR lawyer and YOU need to make every possible effort to speak to him ASAP

You have one week from today, after wich the gloves are off and we will be coming to ALL the boards with EVERYTHING

How long will you and your company last after that? Do you understand?

I hope you do.
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oh my...Meat, Oprano is behind you 100%!
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Thanks Serge

7 days and Bodes world ends as he knows it
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Damn...I hate teasers !!!!!!
S, from what I heard, this matter is BIGGER than ACACIA...what is 7 days 'till the end of the Internet the way you know it?
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Serge

It could well be bigger than Acacia...On the Acacia note, I might have some good news, we are speaking with the company that holds the streaming patents that PRE DATE Acacias.

they are out there, we know who has them, just got to convince them to fight the good fight.
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It could well be bigger than Acacia...On the Acacia note, I might have some good news, we are speaking with the company that holds the streaming patents that PRE DATE Acacias.

they are out there, we know who has them, just got to convince them to fight the good fight.
Meat, in my opinion it's WAY bigger than ACACIA, as it affects EVERYBODY who makes money off visitors traffic, no exceptions taken
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tease.

Ill take a guess, some type of scumware being used to steal traffic/replace sponsor codes or something.
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This should be good. Meat you know I'm(M3) is totaly behind ya'll
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Ill take a guess, some type of scumware being used to steal traffic/replace sponsor codes or something.
somebody was mentioning this on the pib board a while back.

i thought if that was true there would be people with trashbags and cinderblocks* looking for them, not just lawyers.

(* proof that advertising works - i saw this phrase in an ad for the sopranos last night. i'm not going to watch the sopranos, but i'll use the phrase from their ad )
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Damn, you *know* the shit is bad if Meat is pissed!
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So come on!!! Spill the beans!!!

Whats he done?

And if it is bigger than Acacia how can he fix it by getting in touch within 7 days?
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I remember someone coming on the Pond's flat board a couple months back saying that Sextracker was stealing traffic - I *think* the counter was launching pop-ups or something, can't remember exactly.
That's the only thing I can think of but it's probably got nothing to do with this.
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This is no big secret and definitely worse than Acacia....harder to fight, although it can be done....

I don't think you should wait 7 days, Meat...
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Meat I remeber talking with you on this in Holland

Go get em
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If it is what I think it is... then it is the apple to Acacia's orange... and therefore both are unique and monumental in their negative impact...

Thus...

I prefer the more accurate....

"this is as bad as Acacia"

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i cant believe that they not only got away with stealing so much traffic for so long... but that so few people even know what they have been up to.

below is a taste. they have done some nastier things since and Meat hopefully will go after them for it.

http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/InternetOptimizer.html

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,3902036...,2137632,00.htm

http://antivirus.about.com/library/weekly/...y/aa071403a.htm

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data...toptimizer.html


http://www.internet-optimizer.com/
http://www.avenuemedia.com/
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I don't know anybody Meat went after with his hole heart in it and...escaped
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I heard that they were nicking traffic too.

Didn't use there counters. I pretty much had heard the same as Carrie ;-))

So I guess it would be a class action?

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They are rarer than the guys who made it out of Colditz!! ;-))
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I heard that they were nicking traffic too.

Didn't use there counters. I pretty much had heard the same as Carrie ;-))

So I guess it would be a class action?

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thats exactly what they are doing. they can redirect every user to any URL they deterimine, at any time:

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,3...2137632,00.htm
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I am sure this has to do with the spyware games ST is playing. They also may be crossing the line with "free" dialers.

But I do not think Meat is in a position to do anything but whine.

Brad Shaw GFY

lol brad, this has nothing to do with spyware and nothing to do with games and speaking of whining, I would hate to hear the squeal out of your gob when you fiind out LMAO...

Shawn has his options, hes either going to take this opportunity to deal with his problem or he will be finished in so many different and unique ways he will regret ever being born.

Quote that and then stick it up your ass
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Dunno what it is but everytime one visits netpond some cookie gets loaded on your system which adware/spyware locates and destroys for you.

But I always hated that and felt it was very violating.
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Dunno what it is but everytime one visits netpond some cookie gets loaded on your system which adware/spyware locates and destroys for you.

But I always hated that and felt it was very violating.
Cookies are a massive help to website owners. If you don't like them disable them in your internet options. <_<
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Originally posted by JR@Oct 31 2003, 10:54 AM
i cant believe that they not only got away with stealing so much traffic for so long... but that so few people even know what they have been up to.

below is a taste. they have done some nastier things since and Meat hopefully will go after them for it.

http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/InternetOptimizer.html

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,3902036...,2137632,00.htm

http://antivirus.about.com/library/weekly/...y/aa071403a.htm

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data...toptimizer.html


http://www.internet-optimizer.com/
http://www.avenuemedia.com/
That's some nasty shit.
But I gave up on scumware assholes long ago. They're all still around, still tricking users into installing their shit, and still making money.

Lee if you have your browser set to tell you when a site wants it to accept a cookie, you'll see that EVERY board tries to get you to accept them about 3 times. It's part of the damn software that remembers your LOGIN - you know, that convenient thing where you don't have to type your name every time you post? (Among other things.)

If you're going to try to slam someone for cookies, slam them all - don't be selective. It exposes your agenda.
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I think cookies are great. I'm not sure why privacy advocates have a problem with ad companies tracking my habits and showing me targeted ads. I'd rather see an ad for a great merlot than for feminine leg shaving igia type shit.

Disabling cookies does everybody a dis-service.
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Hey Carrie

Hows it going, yea have been trying to get back on boards a bit, been real busy on our other stuff and fiinding it tough to get into the swing again, pity it was this way but thats life. Weve got some really net things going on at the moment

http://www.cellphonebucks.com/ is one of the new things and also http://www.tottytelevision.com/

When you coming over the ditch?
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The general fear with cookies is that websites can get together and compare databases.
Like if WebsiteA puts a cookie on your machine that has your name and password and you visit WebsiteB, where they have a cookie that has your name and phone number, then at one point WebsiteA and WebsiteB could get together and have your name, password, and phone number plus know the types of products you're interested in.

Prime candidate for selling to a telemarketing firm.

And so on, and so on. Sure, shit like this *is* done from time to time, but usually only by sites that are owned by the same company. They cross-reference their databases and come up with a complete profile on you.

The problem isn't the cookies really, the problem is the information you give the site for them to tuck away in their database.

Legitimate companies though use it for innocuous things like remembering the last time you visited the site so it can give you a little "welcome back" message, remembering your login to make it more convenient for you, holding an affiliate code so they can get credit for a purchase you make, etc etc.

If you don't like cookies, either turn them off or open up your browser's cache and delete the stupid things. It doesn't take an ad-aware program to delete cookies. They're not hidden.
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Dunno what it is but everytime one visits netpond some cookie gets loaded on your system which adware/spyware locates and destroys for you.

But I always hated that and felt it was very violating.
"The sky is falling" , Netpond trys and put a cookie on my machine when I go to there site. Shock! Horror! Probe!

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Meat, you fucking wanker. Tell Joe I am still waiting on my reimbursement check.

And remember, when you finish a mix, chase it with aloe vera!
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"The sky is falling" , Netpond trys and put a cookie on my machine when I go to there site. Shock! Horror! Probe

LOL, im saving all the cookies and going to sell them to people with the right zip ciodes.

Wig, i called Joe a cunter abd as soon as he gets back from Prague hes gonna get right on it)) Think of it as a Tylenol...cos of the headache it saved you...

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Not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck. ;-))
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Hey kath how goes things at Klixxx?

Wig

Not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck. ;-))

Was for you but big regret for me is not being able to work with you and Bill, cant gaurantee anything quite yet but we might have something right up you boys alley soon...

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and if we do find something...im gonna want my fucking check back ya bitch
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What kind of cookies?
Joe Muggs makes a really nice white chocolate chip cookie Mmmmm
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and if we do find something...im gonna want my fucking check back ya bitch
Ah hahaha. i just about shit myself!

Really, though... not sure if it was a stroke of good luck or not. I'd still do it with ya.

I'm sure you guys will do real well. It's not like you teamed up with a bunch of amateurs.
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Oh and thanks, Kath. But, I actually stole that from the Dalai Lama.
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I think cookies are great. I'm not sure why privacy advocates have a problem with ad companies tracking my habits and showing me targeted ads. I'd rather see an ad for a great merlot than for feminine leg shaving igia type shit.

Disabling cookies does everybody a dis-service.
Agreed whole heartedly.
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Meat, I've managed to hold my tounge this long, I can wait another seven days. LOL!

Gonzo, you need a "popcorn" icon in here. Actually a few more really wouldn't be bad either. hint, hint.
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Oh and thanks, Kath. But, I actually stole that from the Dalai Lama.
You shouldn't have told me Wig... here I was thinking you were a great untapped Pearl Master or something!

Still... excellent quote to remember!
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Oh and thanks, Kath. But, I actually stole that from the Dalai Lama.
Damn thieving Sprayberry grads...

Drav...Ill add that to my list.
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Hey Meat - things are going great!

Great to see ya on Oprano... hope we see you @ Internext again!
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wig,

I am a thieving gypsy and will nick the eyes out of your head when you sleep if given the chance.

But , stealing from the Dalai Lama , is just wrong!!!!

;-)))))

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wig,

I am a thieving gypsy and will nick the eyes out of your head when you sleep if given the chance.

But , stealing from the Dalai Lama , is just wrong!!!!

;-)))))

Ooooh... that can't be good!
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Ahhh, internet-optimizer is theirs.

Nice piece of scumware, not too nice using it on everyone ELSES traffic though.
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