Some Mothers Son

[sarettah]

Originally posted by Vick@Mar 23 2003, 01:55 PM

>sarettah - I have to ask why you posted this?
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I felt/feel that is a very appropriate post on a day of sadness such as this when our first casualties have been identified. When our POWs have been put on TV. A day when we should alll be aware that these brave souls fighting for us are our sons and daughters and that for each one killed There are many here in the states feeling pain and loss.

I posted it becauyse it has been running through my head since I first turned CNN back on this morning.
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>There is no doubt that war is hell, at it's most base the >trading of lives for real estate ...
>But that solider who made the supreme sacrifice for >their country (and not just sons but daughters too) >has my support, utmost respect, admiration, honor >and gratitude
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As they do mine. I served 8 years in the Navy, my son is presently serving aboard ship in the Navy.

Where in the lyrics that I posted is there even a shred of disrespect. There is mourning, there is loss, but I find absolutely No disrespect in the words I posted.
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>Beyond that as sad as it is, that solider who made the >supreme sacrifice has worked to ensure the well >being, prosperity and peace that may follow this >conflict. That solider has made the supreme sacrifice >so that countless others may live in peace
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Yes, they have. Where in the song does it imply that a life was wasted?

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>They gave their lives for what they believed in, they >have the courage of their convictions - again for that I >give my utmost respect, admiration, honor and >gratitude - for their families my deepest sympathies >and condolences

>I wish the world was different, that we didn't have to >fight for what we believe in or to liberate others or to >stop unacceptable practices

>I really believe that it's things like you posted here >that help cause some of the misunderstanding that >leads to the awful protests and conflicts we have here >and around the world. A blind look at horror without >considering the things I have touched on in this post
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But, when a mother loses a son, whether for good causes or for bad causes. Whether in the name of righteousness or in the name of evil. It is blind horror for the parent.

You seem uncomfortable at the idea of seeing that horror, of recognizing that horror. It is a hard reality to face when you look at it, even when it can be rationalized as being righteous and moral.

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>Yes War is awful .......... but the alternatives are even >worse. To sit by and just watch ......
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I agree and nothing I have posted across the past month or so has disagreed with this.
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>and that America flag you have as your icon can be >seen as insulting especially at a time when the USA is >at war, you have the symbol of our nation with >cartoon characters on it

>My flag wasn't made for someone to put cartoon >characters on or to be made light of, especially when >Americans are fighting and dying

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Your Flag eh... I am glad to see you think you have exclusive rights to it.

I served 8 years serving my country. I often carried the American flag in honor guards and at funerals. I served under the American flag proudly and my Son continues to serve under it at this very moment (and I am extremely proud of him btw). But, the flag is merely a piece of cloth in the long run. It represents an ideal, that ideal being the United States of America. That the version that I found which has pictures of 5 cartoon characters that I feel also represent America is neither meant as disrespectful or insulting. It is my viewpoint of America and only my viewpoint of America.

To treat anything as sacred causes us to lose track of why it is sacred. Blind loyalty to an icon is dangerous IMHO, when we place the emphasis on the symbol, rather than what the symbol represents, we end up doing things that are contrary to the ideal in order to protect the image.



Last edited by sarettah at Mar 23 2003, 02:35 PM