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Wonder who these guys are. Offering a 30 minute "free trial" that converts in 30 minutes to a 40 dollar month...opening an Ibill join page in a frame..but it's an Ibill page alright..
Since when does Ibill allow that? And since when do they offer crossells? http://www.just-turned18.net/bnr/3050017720 Added in edit: And since the surfer has to cancel within 30 minutes WITH Ibill...I doubt that very many successfully cancel, since the info doesn't go into the CMI for a while, perhaps meaning it's not in their system either before 30 minutes and half the time surfers can't manage to cancel through them anyway. I get tons of members complaining that they can't cancel through Ibill...and there is no other customer service address..so they're probably getting that month. Chargeback City. Last edited by originalheather at Feb 18 2003, 10:07 PM |
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DAMN! According to Trevor, this is CEN running a blind submit PERHAPS to Ibill...but the join page isn't on Ibill's server.
Whoa. Muuuy Interesante. Edit again, sigh. Just got this from Don Moore when I asked him since when Ibill offers free trials... "They won't be for much longer. Thanks for the info. Don" Last edited by originalheather at Feb 18 2003, 10:14 PM |
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heather,
ibill has been offering free trials, cross sells for a while and cen does have free trial sites That looks like one of those Babenet sites that has forwarded its join page to CEN or something
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And Ibill no longer hosts its own join page? Interesting.
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the credit card page is hosted by ibill https://pay.ibillnextgen.com/EcommerceWeb/....b/..............
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Heather, I have mentioned this in the past - I have a real problem with billing info being "pre-submitted" like this... I have seen spam sites with signup pages on geocities and yahoo... and processors accepting forms submits from them! I can't beleive for a moment that the clients signing up in this manner are 100% clear on what is going on - and I am also confident that the credit card info is also getting siphoned off on the way around.
Any idea why "$38.19" a month? Weird number, no? at least they have the guts / brains to put the price up as a price. Alex
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My tech checked it originally. I just sent this to him and he replied:
haha... he's right.... it does some funky javascript No matter if you put it in or out of a frame You end up in frames I missed it because no matter WHAT you do, it doesn't LOOK like it's in a frameset But thanks for being so patronizing. 
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heather i dont have problem taking it out of the frame
just bookmark the frame and you'll see what i mean i find it rather ironic but you seem to be doing the same thing hosting the join page and posting data to a credit card page. and i'm not patronizing you, just pointing out your errored assumptions. Nothing wrong with beeing wrong. But making false accusations is not right either.
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We precap data..yes, I didn't say it was wrong to precap data. When I THOUGHT that Ibill wasn't hosting the join page, THAT was different. I don't precap cc#'s, and that's what I THOUGHT had happened. That's why I posted Quote:
Making false accusations...ok. I've gone from being wrong to making false accusations. And look up the meaning of "patronizing". |
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The real question about Ibill is who is leading the ship? Seems to be rudderless....
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DrGuile knows all....
.... DrGuile likes to refer to himself in the third
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heather,
I hate you!  We have been advised no more 30 min trials!!!!  
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Just like you've been telling me about Cave Creek, I've been saying this about Ibill. The first sale was an escape laced with a lot of fancy numbers. It started raining charge backs and mis-management, now we'll see the storm. It's like everyone is running around wasting time, getting paid for a job that has no description.
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Cavecreek Dianna? Would that be the same Cavecreek that is debt free, has no shareholders without a clue how to turn on the internet, has a sister company named CCBill that has never missed a payment or paid late in all the years they've been in business?
Would that be the same Cavecreek that had tech staff come in one Saturday to build boxes for an emergency situation where Directnic thought they would be without bandwidth on the following Monday morning and potentially down for a couple of days if that happened? The same Cavecreek that did not have Directnic as a customer when they did so, and was not guaranteed of any business even after helping out when they could? Interestingly enough, I'll wager you, or anyone else that cares to take it, that CCBill/Cavecreek will be among those standing when Visa/Mastercard are done putting the brakes on this industry... and that there won't be but one or two more besides CCBill left. |
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she said MikeAI has been telling her about cave creek...
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