Bwahahaha! My New Discovery!

[Mutt]

So a few hours ago i'm surfing the Net and i notice a post, some girl wants to know who the good porno directors are in L.A. cuz I guess she wants to be a pornstar.

So I figure she's some 4'12" 180 pound girl from Kansas but since nobody else was replying to her I told her I'd email with her some information about how to go about getting into porn movies. So I asked her if she could send me a photo cuz I don't want to send the agent the agent I like on Wanton Girls some wacko ugly chick.

Here she is!





TOUCHDOWN!!!!

[Vick]

4'12"

um is that anything like 5' he he he

Think it is for real, she looks interesting

I will sell you Penthouse business cards for $100 per [ ahem ] sign-up
with a follow-me program.

[Mutt]

she's for real, i'm waiting to hear back from her about what she wants to do. She might be naive about the porn biz and wants to be one of those softcore Playboy movie stars or maybe she is a chick who just wants to go nuts and become the Queen of Anal


i will keep you updated Vick.

[Vick]

i will keep you updated Vick

Please do (Hey Edd WTF is the Groucho Smile?)

[Mutt]

PHMike? A Follow-Me program? Like R-n Levi runs?

what kind of program are you going to have for Penthouse? Playboy
has some kind of deal with Lensman who also owns GFY. Not sure if he
is just licensing their name and content or he's partnering with them or working for them or..........................

this girl is hot but not sure if she's Penthouse Pet hot. I haven't seen much of her body yet.

i was talking to a guy yesterday who said he has sent a ton of girls to Penthouse who have become Pet of the Months

[Mutt]

Edd does need to add these smilies, Groucho is my fave

Originally posted by Mutt@Dec 7 2002, 02:20 AM
PHMike? A Follow-Me program? Like R-n Levi runs?

what kind of program are you going to have for Penthouse? Playboy
has some kind of deal with Lensman who also owns GFY. Not sure if he
is just licensing their name and content or he's partnering with them or working for them or..........................

I was just joking... I guess it was kind of obtuse.

I noticed Playboy is starting to get there shit together. last year I heard Christy Heffner
talk about building $20m streaming studios for their web site, when they have a 100,000 members at $6 a month. Now I see them at $19.99, with a trial and a whole bunch of spam for former members and the lensman stuff.

I hear Beeker, penthouse.com circa 1998, is doing some stuff other there. I think they started poaching adult web talent before teaming up with adult.com.

my feeling about the lensman, playboy thing is that it will not live up to its potential.

the first rule of anything is know thyself, and playboy doesn't seem recounciled to selling jerk-off pics. They want to be in the low margin media biz, and feel people care about what they write about.

If Lensman can control the tour and members area it could have a lot of runway in front of it. I wouldn't bet on it thou.

what kind of program are you going to have for Penthouse?

Things are still in the incubation phase. We have been in the woods for the last couple of years running the site like an on-line magazine. We have a lot of stuff in front of us, but we should to be making some moves after Internext.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by PHmike@Dec 7 2002, 02:51 AM
what kind of program are you going to have for Penthouse?

Things are still in the incubation phase. We have been in the woods for the last couple of years running the site like an on-line magazine. We have a lot of stuff in front of us, but we should to be making some moves after Internext.

hahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

don't you think it's a bit late getting into this game now?
;-))

Playboy and Penthouse miscalculated the power of Internet sales back than and left BILLIONS of dollars to be picked up by "amateurs"

(Al Hadhazy, IFriends, was amateur programmer who takes home from the net more than Playboy and Penthouse combined)

of course you can argue that Guggenheim picked ALL the gold miners left behind in Klondike and got thousands of times more,
but...
I don't see PH as a Porno Guggenheim...

iI can be wrong, will be interesting though who "new guggenheim" will emerge

don't you think it's a bit late getting into this game now?

no.

Will Penthouse/Playboy become market leaders in the adult web space? Doubt it.
But compared to ARS/MaxCash/CE et al, they probably have more runway in front of them because they have done so poorly on the adult internet.

I think the example is Hustler. I bet Huslter.com makes more money with Ken and a focus on the web site as a profit center, than it did without a program. so should you start a program in 2002 or 2003, so late? sure dude.

Penthouse is leaving money on the table still. Take it.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by PHmike@Dec 7 2002, 03:44 AM
don't you think it's a bit late getting into this game now?

no.

Will Penthouse/Playboy become market leaders in the adult web space? Doubt it.
But compared to ARS/MaxCash/CE et al, they probably have more runway in front of them because they have done so poorly on the adult internet.

I think the example is Hustler. I bet Huslter.com makes more money with Ken and a focus on the web site as a profit center, than it did without a program. so should you start a program in 2002 or 2003, so late? sure dude.

Penthouse is leaving money on the table still. Take it.

well,
RB's of this world made their fortunes because they didn't have to call board meeting to pay $100,000 for traffic ON the spot when situation warranted it...

Hard to achieve the same speed with corporate mastodonts...

as for
"Penthouse is leaving money on the table still. Take it."

where do I send my invoice?
;-))))

as for Flynt and Ken..
let's face it,
lets give Larry Flynt the credot for recognizing Ken's talents and knowledge of the business and having him run with the ball EARLY in the game,
Playboy today also went Flynt's route and got Lensman to promote their product.

Penthouse should go the same route,
there are plenty of good people out there who know what they are doing and might be interested in this kind of arrangement.

Jordan, MarcDe, Mr. Cash, Dean
were the first names popped in my head...

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by Mutt@Dec 7 2002, 02:05 AM
So a few hours ago i'm surfing the Net and i notice a post, some girl wants to know who the good porno directors are in L.A. cuz I guess she wants to be a pornstar.

So I figure she's some 4'12" 180 pound girl from Kansas but since nobody else was replying to her I told her I'd email with her some information about how to go about getting into porn movies. So I asked her if she could send me a photo cuz I don't want to send the agent the agent I like on Wanton Girls some wacko ugly chick.

Here she is!





TOUCHDOWN!!!!

she probably has a peg leg or something that that photo isn't showing...

[Winetalk.com]

BTW,
you asked me in other thread what is "gumbo"...

THIS discussion is a prime example of it,
this is RICE of the soup which makes it soup and not just salted water
;-)))

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 7 2002, 03:54 AM

well,
RB's of this world made their fortunes because they didn't have to call board meeting to pay $100,000 for traffic ON the spot when situation warranted it...

Hard to achieve the same speed with corporate mastodonts...

as for
"Penthouse is leaving money on the table still. Take it."

where do I send my invoice?
;-))))

as for Flynt and Ken..
let's face it,
lets give Larry Flynt the credot for recognizing Ken's talents and knowledge of the business and having him run with the ball EARLY in the game,
Playboy today also went Flynt's route and got Lensman to promote their product.

Penthouse should go the same route,
there are plenty of good people out there who know what they are doing and might be interested in this kind of arrangement.

Jordan, MarcDe, Mr. Cash, Dean
were the first names popped in my head...

Sure.

Young companies run by owner/operators will always be more flexible and responsive
than corporations in rapidly developing markets. totally agreed.

I see us as IBM who let Microsoft dominate a new market. But IBM is still big. They needed to re-invent themselves as a service company. That is our test.

and I do give credit to LF for realizing that the adult web was a different animal than the magazine he created in the 1970's. kudos to him.

If we tried to do it totally my ourselves, we would be stupid. Its' just like anything. If you don't know how to do it; hire the best.

[sextoyking]

Mutt,

nice photo.

gosh with all the content your getting, time for you to get a paysite up)

[Winetalk.com]

PHMike,
pleasure to have you here!

serge,

this one traffic deal seemed to have really got yer goat.

-mike

aside: this has little to do with Mutt's peg-leg she-male pornstar.

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 7 2002, 04:37 AM
PHMike,
pleasure to have you here!

thanks.

I will also read this as good night.

-mike

[Mutt]

she probably has a peg leg or something that that photo isn't showing...
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she got back to me today. I asked her what she wants to do in the video world. She says 'nothing too kinky. I'm mostly interested in girl/girl and anal'.

[Mike AI]

Mut we need to see the goods, not some B&W headshot! :P

PHMike - welcome to the Gumbo. I see you are fitting right in...

Penthouse still has tons of goodwill, and a great name, not to mention lots of content.... I think it and Playboy if handled right online could still be nice mines.