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Old 11-30-2002   #1
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Hey everyone, I am bored so WHO WANTS A FREE TEMPLATE .

I am giving away 4 (2 here) free Templates today !, It's saturday , I dont work on saturdays , but today I feel like doing some " make people happy for free" work , so the 10th and 20th poster in this thread will each recieve a free template from adultgalleryservice


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Machine Gun Kelly, what is a TGP template? As someone mentioned earlier in the week, I am clueless....

Seriously I have never done any TGPing ever.... and maybe I need to look into it.
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holy guacamole! Mike, a template is a pre-done design for a TGP gallery, one you have some good templates, just drop some thumbnails in, upload the page and images and then submit the gallery to TGP's.

The reason designers are selling templates these days is because TGP owners are snobbish, many of them won't take ugly ass crumby looking galleries - more catering to the surfer, not only give them free porn, make it look good too!

so many webmasters aren't very good designers, thus guys like machinegun create nice templates, saving webmasters work.

he does good work, i've seen it, and his wife is CUTE!!!
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oh swell...
more free porn..another tgp template....lets crank out ALL THE FREE PICS we can

damn I love TGP's......

MikeAI...maybe we should all do tgp's, maybe we can make some real $$$$
or at least we can "brag about all the hits we get"

on second thought...maybe i'll just continue what i am doing...
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Fold and look at all the programs joining the TGP craze by offering hosted TGP galleries. Desperate measures.

There's no way of going back, it's done unfortunately.
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Machine Gun Kelly, what is a TGP template? As someone mentioned earlier in the week, I am clueless....

Seriously I have never done any TGPing ever.... and maybe I need to look into it.
Was already answered above, but maybe you need to see them to see what I offer ,
http://adultgalleryservice.com/port.htm

We're more than half way to giving away the first FREE one
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http://grubproductions.com/sexzity/sexzite.html

i have a suggestion machinegun. On that design, the right hand side, where there is a large block of text - that should be a GIF not a JPG, it would be so much sharper, also a smaller file size usually.

whenever you have a section of a design with text, try to use a GIF.

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Thanks mutt,
I will keep that in mind,

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I have often harbored the wish that TGP will die under it's own weight
i.e. with the saturation of free materail no one will buy porn from links on TGP pages and they will die

As of now it seems to be headed in that direction but the bigger TGP's have come up with new revenue streams including selling listings and traffic at very low prices

If the gallery makers can't make money hopefully it will collapse
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I have often harbored the wish that TGP will die under it's own weight
i.e. with the saturation of free materail no one will buy porn from links on TGP pages and they will die

As of now it seems to be headed in that direction but the bigger TGP's have come up with new revenue streams including selling listings and traffic at very low prices

If the gallery makers can't make money hopefully it will collapse
Won't happen any time soon. When you can use free hosting, free content, and a free submitter the 10 minutes a day it takes to make a gallery makes it worth it for a lot of people. Most could care less that their conversion ratio is 1:3500 if they get enough signups to buy a couple of cases of beer.
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Some of us bottom feeders are not to proud to take a free TGP Template ...

Actually, until it becomes UNprofitable for tgp site owners there will always be gallery makers.

Of course, program owners could refuse TGP traffic ... that will shut them down too. But I don't see that happening, either.



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both files are the same size, 25 KB

here is the jpeg version, look at the muddy look to the yellow text and red border



here is the gif version, red and yellow stay sharper and more true to the original colors




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The reason DarkDollars will be going with hosted galleries only soon is twofold, we can somewhat control the advertising and distribution of our advertising...for exmaple, I can convert TGP quite well (still, though not like it used to be) so it's in my best interest as a program owner to provide my affiliates with the tools to make them (and us) more money. If I can provide my affiliates with galleries that have made me money, then they make more money and send more traffic and I make more money...
what's killing TGP's isn't just that the content is free, but that it's free and the webmaster providing it, 99% of the time, has no fucking clue how to sell the traffic....they just throw up 12-15-20 pics and a banner and pray....but now with builders taking more time and building galleries that are more like an FPA than just a row of pics, a banner, a row of pics and another banner, ratios are improving quite a bit.....
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Sykk, what do you mean when you say "DarkDollars will be going with hosted galleries only soon"?
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Originally posted by ulfie@Nov 30 2002, 04:35 PM

Won't happen any time soon. When you can use free hosting, free content, and a free submitter the 10 minutes a day it takes to make a gallery makes it worth it for a lot of people. Most could care less that their conversion ratio is 1:3500 if they get enough signups to buy a couple of cases of beer.
YOU can use a free Template 10th poster
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Sykk, what do you mean when you say "DarkDollars will be going with hosted galleries only soon"?
I mean, that'll be the extent of our free promo content...
there will always be people we work with to provide them promo content, but we feel it's better utilized doing hosted galleries...it also allows us to measure what advertising strategies work best...

As much as I'd like to see less free porn out there, TGP's will continue, newsgroups will continue, IRC trading rooms will continue, but if we can somewhat slow down how our content is used (nothing is stopping someone from just stripping our content from ou galleries) we can help minimize the problems...

Also, most of the people who use sponsor hosted galleries are the TGP owenrs themselves, so we get higher listings and the traffic is filtered to us better )) I probably shouldn't type this publicly ))
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machinegunKelly - thanks for putting the templates up as a prize


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nothing is stopping someone from just stripping our content from our galleries
Sykk - you can stop site rippers, Net vampires or whatever you want to call them
By limiting files accessed per account to all your paysites
Problem obviously is that even if you have that in your T&C someone is going to cry (and possibly C when their access is denied for going over daily limit

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are the TGP owners themselves, so we get higher listings
Don't think that is a secret, don't know if it's actually better filtered as much as is higher volume

Since your material is all original and very unique would guess you can actually get some sort of reasonable conversions
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I probably shouldn't type this publicly
I don't claim to be an industry insider, and I can think of a few places where your information might shock somebody, but your post didn't suprise me. More and more mid-level tgps are going to sponsor hosted galleries and/or getting their galleries in a package.
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Pornodoggy, the TGP owners are catching on - list a bunch of sponsor hosted galleries, rotate them around daily, and presto, instant traffic... someone else STILL pays the bandwidth, and you get the sales instead of some college kid with galleries on a free host.

Sounds sort of simple, no?

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Of course, program owners could refuse TGP traffic ... that will shut them down too. But I don't see that happening, either.
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I would like to see all sponsor programs BAN TGP totally... or pay less for the traffic... Shutting these fuckers down will increase the profit for everybody instantly. Each one of the habitual wankers getting off at their sites everyday will suddenly at least have to CONSIDER paying for a trial membership.

Dont make them hosted gals Sykk... fuck em.. TGP owners are parasites on this industry.. Their time is gone and now they should go.. can you justify that a TGP should be protected free speech to any non industry friend?
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Vick , your template has been mailed

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machinegunKelly - thank you very much - nice work... and quick!

Here is the page machinegunKelly built for me
http://www.cloud9models.com/gal/cloud.html

and I plugged in a few pics (didn't have them the correct size to fit the page so thumbs are a little distorted....)
http://www.cloud9models.com/gal/girls.html

Nice work for the little bit of info I gave and doing it in just a few hours

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It does look nice ... I'll post mine when I get it ..
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it is a nice template.


Autumn Austin is out of retirement! hahahahaha........screwy broads.
http://www.modelgig.com/models/autumnaustin/index.htm

men who've worked 40 years in a coal mine or an office cubicle 'retire', i dunno what you call it when a little girl who flashes her beaver for $$$ drops out of site.
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Yeah, well, athletes and dancers and all kinds of other folks "retire" too, so ...
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yeah i know but it sound really lame to describe a nude model's absence for god knows what reasons, though i have a good idea, as a 'retirement'. The word just doesn't fit.

she's a flake, she didn't show up to a shoot i had sold, doesn't answer or return calls.
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Vick I think I should have won, I was here in spirit : )
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Billy - how was the triple threat party last night?

Mutt- I have to wonder - did I get Autumn pre or post retirement
Maybe I can make the pics into trading cards and pump up the value with her retirement he he he
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ha ha ha
http://www.modelgig.com/models/vicki/index.htm

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that was PRE retirement Autumn Vick

tells you how long the retirement was ......... 6 weeks tops. At least Michael Jordan 'retired' for a couple of years.
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I would like to see all sponsor programs BAN TGP totally... or pay less for the traffic... Shutting these fuckers down will increase the profit for everybody instantly. Each one of the habitual wankers getting off at their sites everyday will suddenly at least have to CONSIDER paying for a trial membership.

Dont make them hosted gals Sykk... fuck em.. TGP owners are parasites on this industry.. Their time is gone and now they should go.. can you justify that a TGP should be protected free speech to any non industry friend?
In a perfect world there would be no TGP's or free sites or newsgroups or P2P software or IRC trading rooms....

As Vick pointed out, with us having unique content, we do well with TGP traffic, since we don't have the same generic sites everyone else has....I love the fact that ths business is coming back full circle where content is king once again...

One complaint we often get is "we don't know how to sell goth" so by us providing hosted galleries, we can sell it for them....we don't run the risk of our webmasters promoting with content we don't have inside (how many sites may have lost a recurring sale by a certain gallery attracting a surfer and for the site to not have that model in the site?)

Some programs increase their bottom lines by crossbilling and other credit card tricks...we do it by offering quality content and top notch customer service. We're getting ready to rid ourselves of trials because we don't need them (even on our teen sites...yes, darkdollars best converting site isn't even goth, it's 18yearolds.com ;)). While everyone else complains about all the free content available and shitty conversions, we just keep finding workarounds...look at Oxcash...a year ago, no one, outside of sublime directory submitters, knew who they were, now they are THE BEST reality site program out there that everyone else is scrambling to copy...imagine that, something UNIQUE....amazing that could happen on the adult net in 2002 ;)))
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