National Sales Tax Gains Momentum

11-14-2002

Okay, I agree to disagree. I just don't like all the name calling and finger pointing like I am trying to melt the planet into a ball of slag or something!

I'm the first to admit our gov't has grossly mismanaged our economy and misappropriated just about everything they could get their hands on. You're right my idea is mostly just a band-aid, but my aim is not to support underachievers.

I've mentioned it a couple other places; if you're not part of the human solution you're part of the problem. I think most socialists would string me up for saying we ought to adopt Chinese policy on having multiple offspring. I think if you can't support the kids, you should be penalized for having them. CREATING a burden on society should never be rewarded.

However the hazy area is people who are downtrodden. People with no children who are addicted to drugs or booze, how do we help them? Letting them lead lifes of crime is not the answer, so what kind of support can we give people who CAN contribute to help them get to that point? The welfare-to-work program has helped a lot of people get jobs that pay $8-10 an hour instead of $5.25, but it has also forced single mothers to work 12 hour days, commute 3 hours to jobs, and left them so exhausted they can't provide proper care for their kids. So 1 solution doesn't work for everyone.

What is the solution? Why are we so fucking lazy? Our gov't gives out less in the way of handouts than plenty of other countries, yet we have the highest percentage of freeloaders! If any of you Libertarians can tell me how we can get these people off the government tit and make them productive, I'm all ears! That goes for any of you, because as I said, I pay my taxes but I'd rather have more money to spend just like anyone else. But I'm opposed to proposals that leave potentially productive members of society behind. Do I think we should impose some form of sanctions on single impoverished mothers who keep having children out of wedlock and not seeking child support from their deadbeat fathers? Definitely! Do I think we should toss unemployed steel workers with alcohol addictions onto the street? No way.

I'm sick of seeing our jobs go overseas, sick of seeing fat cats polluting our environment while laying off thousands of workers, sick of seeing greed and theft in our own government. Lead me to the light wig! I'm all for any solution that makes people earn what they get, but I hope we can agree on the fact that for every hard worker in this country there are a couple people standing in line with their hands out.

What is the biggest employee theft in business? Time! I guess the same could be said for Oprano though.

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Cal Guest Posts: n/a	Okay, I agree to disagree. I just don't like all the name calling and finger pointing like I am trying to melt the planet into a ball of slag or something! I'm the first to admit our gov't has grossly mismanaged our economy and misappropriated just about everything they could get their hands on. You're right my idea is mostly just a band-aid, but my aim is not to support underachievers. I've mentioned it a couple other places; if you're not part of the human solution you're part of the problem. I think most socialists would string me up for saying we ought to adopt Chinese policy on having multiple offspring. I think if you can't support the kids, you should be penalized for having them. CREATING a burden on society should never be rewarded. However the hazy area is people who are downtrodden. People with no children who are addicted to drugs or booze, how do we help them? Letting them lead lifes of crime is not the answer, so what kind of support can we give people who CAN contribute to help them get to that point? The welfare-to-work program has helped a lot of people get jobs that pay $8-10 an hour instead of $5.25, but it has also forced single mothers to work 12 hour days, commute 3 hours to jobs, and left them so exhausted they can't provide proper care for their kids. So 1 solution doesn't work for everyone. What is the solution? Why are we so fucking lazy? Our gov't gives out less in the way of handouts than plenty of other countries, yet we have the highest percentage of freeloaders! If any of you Libertarians can tell me how we can get these people off the government tit and make them productive, I'm all ears! That goes for any of you, because as I said, I pay my taxes but I'd rather have more money to spend just like anyone else. But I'm opposed to proposals that leave potentially productive members of society behind. Do I think we should impose some form of sanctions on single impoverished mothers who keep having children out of wedlock and not seeking child support from their deadbeat fathers? Definitely! Do I think we should toss unemployed steel workers with alcohol addictions onto the street? No way. I'm sick of seeing our jobs go overseas, sick of seeing fat cats polluting our environment while laying off thousands of workers, sick of seeing greed and theft in our own government. Lead me to the light wig! I'm all for any solution that makes people earn what they get, but I hope we can agree on the fact that for every hard worker in this country there are a couple people standing in line with their hands out. What is the biggest employee theft in business? Time! I guess the same could be said for Oprano though.