The Truth About URL Registration

rand · 04-27-2004

The Truth About URL Registration

The question has been asked here and on other boards: Why are new domains taking so long to get set up? And why do some billing companies seem to set up new sites faster than others? The answer is not that complicated; some of us are following the rules, which means that it takes longer.

Earlier this year, Epoch sent an email to its' clients clarifying the Visa rules which stated that all Internet Payment Service Providers (IPSP's) are required to submit all new domains requesting credit card processing to Visa for approval prior to allowing them to process any Visa transactions for that site. The new policy was implemented and enforced by Epoch immediately.

Epoch is and has been 100% compliant with the new rule. Unfortunately not all other IPSP’s have followed the rule, allowing sites to begin processing transactions before Visa has approved the URL. Yes, we have examples and proof; No, we won’t post them or discuss them – for obvious reasons. This practice obviously results in quicker turn around time, which answers the question: “Why does it take Epoch longer than (insert IPSP name here) to register sites?” This practice puts your sites and your entire business at serious risk.

If you have submitted domains for processing that were activated by your IPSP prior to Visa approval, your site and perhaps your entire portfolio are at risk for violating Visa rules through no fault of your own. Visa has stated that violations of their URL registration policy could result in substantial fines and penalties. URL's found to be violating Visa rules could also be subject to termination.

To insure that your site is set up as quickly as possible, be sure you do not submit it to your IPSP until it is fully functional and ready to launch. Visa is looking at the sites, not just the domain name. Billing Support links and all other functionality including 2257 compliance are just an example of some of the reasons sites are not being sent to Visa for approval and delaying the entire registration process. This rule applies to all sites, even after initial registration. Every time you add a site, it has to be registered.

Epoch review’s your sites before submission for registration. We review each site submitted to us and either return the site to you with recommendations or submit the site for Visa approval. The registration process takes several days. You need to consider this when planning the marketing of a new site.

As always, we will continue to keep you informed of any new developments.

Please remember that getting a site up fast is important to all of us. If you are not selling, we are not billing. We are all aligned here. The overriding factor and indeed our job for our clients is to keep the merchant account. Breaking the rules is always faster, but it always ends up badly. We have all seen this time and time again. So before you start processing a new URL through any IPSP, ask this question - and get the answer in writing: “Have your Acquiring Bank and Visa approved this URL for processing?” If the answer is anything but Yes, do not process one single transaction.

New rules always mean a little more time and a little more effort. But the result is always worth the effort. Stay in business – for the long term.

Thanks,

Chris Mallick
CEO - Epoch / Paycom

gonzo · 04-27-2004

ARe they looking at if the domain name is properly registered?

As in if you registered your domain name say...10 years ago before you ahd a corporation but youve got your 3rd party account under your corporation name....do they have to match?

Reason I ask is I was told that the registrant had to match your corporation.
IS that a Visa rule or is it bullshit?

rand · 04-27-2004

Gonzo,

I know that Visa is indeed looking at WHOIS information.

For whatever reason they have for doing it, your best bet is to have accurate info for your WHOIS for other reasons as well. I'd need to look into it but I beleive that it's a law now to have accurate WHOIS info.

gonzo · 04-27-2004

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Originally posted by rand@Apr 27 2004, 05:57 PM
Gonzo,

I know that Visa is indeed looking at WHOIS information.

For whatever reason they have for doing it, your best bet is to have accurate info for your WHOIS for other reasons as well. I'd need to look into it but I beleive that it's a law now to have accurate WHOIS info.

Fair enough. Its ok...I had the domain name moved to directnic and they helped me clear the problems.

Hell Puppy · 04-27-2004

Thanks for the straight scoop and insight. That helps a lot.

The whole process is frustrating because it seems like a moving target instead of a nice bulleted list of requirements.

Winetalk.com · 04-28-2004

seems like Visa is FINALLY does something to combat the fraud...good for them.

04-27-2004	#1
rand Members Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Marina del Rey Posts: 91	The Truth About URL Registration The question has been asked here and on other boards: Why are new domains taking so long to get set up? And why do some billing companies seem to set up new sites faster than others? The answer is not that complicated; some of us are following the rules, which means that it takes longer. Earlier this year, Epoch sent an email to its' clients clarifying the Visa rules which stated that all Internet Payment Service Providers (IPSP's) are required to submit all new domains requesting credit card processing to Visa for approval prior to allowing them to process any Visa transactions for that site. The new policy was implemented and enforced by Epoch immediately. Epoch is and has been 100% compliant with the new rule. Unfortunately not all other IPSP’s have followed the rule, allowing sites to begin processing transactions before Visa has approved the URL. Yes, we have examples and proof; No, we won’t post them or discuss them – for obvious reasons. This practice obviously results in quicker turn around time, which answers the question: “Why does it take Epoch longer than (insert IPSP name here) to register sites?” This practice puts your sites and your entire business at serious risk. If you have submitted domains for processing that were activated by your IPSP prior to Visa approval, your site and perhaps your entire portfolio are at risk for violating Visa rules through no fault of your own. Visa has stated that violations of their URL registration policy could result in substantial fines and penalties. URL's found to be violating Visa rules could also be subject to termination. To insure that your site is set up as quickly as possible, be sure you do not submit it to your IPSP until it is fully functional and ready to launch. Visa is looking at the sites, not just the domain name. Billing Support links and all other functionality including 2257 compliance are just an example of some of the reasons sites are not being sent to Visa for approval and delaying the entire registration process. This rule applies to all sites, even after initial registration. Every time you add a site, it has to be registered. Epoch review’s your sites before submission for registration. We review each site submitted to us and either return the site to you with recommendations or submit the site for Visa approval. The registration process takes several days. You need to consider this when planning the marketing of a new site. As always, we will continue to keep you informed of any new developments. Please remember that getting a site up fast is important to all of us. If you are not selling, we are not billing. We are all aligned here. The overriding factor and indeed our job for our clients is to keep the merchant account. Breaking the rules is always faster, but it always ends up badly. We have all seen this time and time again. So before you start processing a new URL through any IPSP, ask this question - and get the answer in writing: “Have your Acquiring Bank and Visa approved this URL for processing?” If the answer is anything but Yes, do not process one single transaction. New rules always mean a little more time and a little more effort. But the result is always worth the effort. Stay in business – for the long term. Thanks, Chris Mallick CEO - Epoch / Paycom __________________ --Rand Epoch Paycom Paycom EU

04-27-2004	#2
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	ARe they looking at if the domain name is properly registered? As in if you registered your domain name say...10 years ago before you ahd a corporation but youve got your 3rd party account under your corporation name....do they have to match? Reason I ask is I was told that the registrant had to match your corporation. IS that a Visa rule or is it bullshit? __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

04-27-2004	#3
rand Members Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Marina del Rey Posts: 91	Gonzo, I know that Visa is indeed looking at WHOIS information. For whatever reason they have for doing it, your best bet is to have accurate info for your WHOIS for other reasons as well. I'd need to look into it but I beleive that it's a law now to have accurate WHOIS info. __________________ --Rand Epoch Paycom Paycom EU

04-28-2004	#6
Winetalk.com Prostate Examiner I quoff fine wine at corkd.com Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: good 'ole USA Posts: 21,018	seems like Visa is FINALLY does something to combat the fraud...good for them. __________________ why dogs sniff each other butts?

04-27-2004	#5
Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Thanks for the straight scoop and insight. That helps a lot. The whole process is frustrating because it seems like a moving target instead of a nice bulleted list of requirements.