Do you feel more or less safe living where you do?

[TheEnforcer]

I feel much safer living where I live because it's a lot harder for outside people to blend in in middle america here.

[Peaches]

I feel MUCH safer here than I did in the Atlanta 'burbs. As you mentioned, there's not very many "outsiders" that would blend in. Heck, all we have here are rednecks and Mexicans.

I've lived in Atlanta and Jacksonville and both were considered "targets". Atlanta for the Airport, CNN and CDC and Jacksonville because of all the military ports.

We've got nothing of any interest up here and having your own water supply is always nice.

[Bishop]

I live in a town of 500 people. I'm the bad element in town. I always feel safe.

If your not from around here.. People give you THE look..

"You ain't from here is ya boy?"

[Mike AI]

There is no doubt living in a smaller city, or non-urban area things are generally safer. Not only from terrorists, but also normal crime as well.

As far as targets, NY, DC and LA are always listed as the top ones. So while they may be targeted most, they probably also have more security.... including lots that most people do not see.

Terrorists in foreign countries have been gonig after softer targets - those easier to hit, so something in a smaller city, or area may pop up from a frustrated terrorist who could not get his bigger target.

[Winetalk.com]

One thing we were taught in USSR I learned well to use it here:
"Hero dies only ONCE, coward dies every day"

I fly, travel, and won't let terrorists disrupt my life and make me die EVERY DAY....

[Bishop]

There is a bunker just a few miles from my house. It went up for sale a couple of months back. I don't know if anyone bought it or not. My wife wanted to buy it. This is the kinda place you could definately feel safe in.

Read the article.. this thing is radical!

---- Article About The Bunker ----

STANFIELD - Down Love Chapel Road, across from a field of soybeans and corn, lies a little-known footnote to the Cold War.

It's not much to look at from the surface -- two small buildings in front of a 250-foot tower.

But below the weed-covered veneer is a multilevel, nuclear attack- proof bunker built in the early '60s for commercial as well as top- secret government use.

Military jets and Air Force One used to relay communications through the 80,000-square-foot facility -- roughly the size of a Home Depot. AT&T constructed eight such bunkers during the Cold War to ensure vital communications would survive disasters. The Stanfield site was the largest, built at a cost of more than $7 million.

Now the decommissioned mass of concrete, situated on 11 acres about 30 miles east of uptown Charlotte in rural Stanly County, can be yours for the low, low price of $1.5 million.

The potential is nearly limitless. When AT&T moved its operations out of the facility in 1991, it took most of the communications equipment housed on the two main levels. The result is a lot of open space that can be configured almost any way you want.

And once you're in, you can stay in for a long time. The structure was designed to accommodate 90 people for 90 days.

The facility runs on commercial power, but if that were knocked out, two jet turbine engines would supply 750 kilowatts apiece. By comparison, the average house runs on 15 to 20 kilowatts.

A 300,000-gallon fuel tank served the facility. The engines used about 30 gallons an hour, but the tank never ran dry. Employees actually pumped out fuel from the '60s when the bunker closed.

Water for the facility was held in a 100,000-gallon tank supplied by three wells beneath the main structure. There is a separate sewage system and trash incinerator.

Air came through three vents and was circulated using several blowers the size of sedans.

Much of the concrete walls are bare, but the offices include such '70s design staples as beige wallpaper and wood paneling. The sinks and toilets in the housing area are made of steel.

The cots and refrigerators are gone, but little reminders of the workers who staffed the facility 24 hours a day remain.

The engine room still has maintenance schedules. One room has a calendar from 1990. Many corners still have floor plans and evacuation routes to the facility's two exits.

There are three 15-ton doors separating the underground from the surface. Two are at the main entrance. The other is by the back door.

Near that exit used to be an office that only employees with top- secret clearance could enter.

Back before satellites and other high-tech systems, the president's airborne communications were funneled through secured bases. When the plane left one base's reach, another would pick it up.

About the Bunker

Completed in 1967, the 80,000 square-foot structure operated normally with a crew of 30. But it could house 90 people for 90 days in the event of a nuclear attack. A radiation detector and percussion sensors are scattered around the facility.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 22 2003, 11:14 AM
One thing we were taught in USSR I learned well to use it here:
"Hero dies only ONCE, coward dies every day"

I fly, travel, and won't let terrorists disrupt my life and make me die EVERY DAY....

AMEN!

[Bishop]

Here is a place you can buy old missle bunkers.. not as big as the bunker I mentioned earlier but still cool.. and maybe one in your area. haha..

Feel Safe In These Trying Times.

http://www.missilebases.com/

I got a kick out of this one..
"Shep, TX - 11 acres, electrical and plumbing in LCC, hilltop with scrub trees overlooking valley, 2 water wells, LCC stripped to bare concrete ready for creative design, silo tube used for scuba diving, asphalt entry road. Background check necessary to buy. Shown to serious and capable buyers only.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Dec 22 2003, 11:14 AM
One thing we were taught in USSR I learned well to use it here:
"Hero dies only ONCE, coward dies every day"

I fly, travel, and won't let terrorists disrupt my life and make me die EVERY DAY....

So true.

[Joe Sixpack]

Australia is probably the safest country in the world in which to live.

There are definite advantages to living on an island.

[Peaches]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Dec 22 2003, 01:02 PM
There are definite advantages to living on an island.

The WTC was on an island.

[PornoDoggy]

Australia is how far from Indonesia?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Dec 22 2003, 12:02 PM
Australia is probably the safest country in the world in which to live.

There are definite advantages to living on an island.

that's what americans thought prior to 9/11.....

not in today's age it matters much........

[Joe Sixpack]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Dec 22 2003, 09:07 AM
Australia is how far from Indonesia?

Far enough.

Once you get across the thousands kilometres of water, you have dense rainforest and crocodiles to look forward to.

[ulfie]

If terrorists attacked where I live they would kill more deer than people then they would have another group of terrorists after them.....PETA.

[Bestat]

I live at the base of Cheyenne Mountain, and Norad sits on top of it, so I figure if they go, I go I am like Serge, I refuse to live my life differently than I did before, when it is your time to go, it is your time, won't matter where you are.

[Carrie]

I'm about 5 miles (straight as the crow flies) from Norfolk, VA. Prime target.
Terrorists look at satellite pictures of that place with fuzzy, wet-dream-like visions of a Pearl Harbor replay in their heads.

Like Bestat said... if they go, I go. Not much to do about it but hope the radio announcer mentions something in enough time that I can haul ass towards Tennessee.

[LAJ]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Dec 22 2003, 08:06 AM
There is no doubt living in a smaller city, or non-urban area things are generally safer. Not only from terrorists, but also normal crime as well.

As far as targets, NY, DC and LA are always listed as the top ones. So while they may be targeted most, they probably also have more security.... including lots that most people do not see.

Terrorists in foreign countries have been gonig after softer targets - those easier to hit, so something in a smaller city, or area may pop up from a frustrated terrorist who could not get his bigger target.

I'd say I have to disagree with ya on that one MikeAI... it's actually many of the smaller cities and towns that have a higher crime rate than the larger cities. Granted if you are from a small town, cities like NY and LA can seem very daunting and dangerous, but in actuality have lower rate of crime than the national average. Crime is usually in pockets of every city, but according to http://www.bestplaces.net/html/crime_compare.asp it seems like St. Louis, Dallas and Atlanta are much worse places to live than larger cities. The trend seems to be pretty bad for smaller cities particularly in the southern half of the US.



Last edited by LAJ at Dec 22 2003, 12:36 PM

[LAJ]

And by LA... I meant property crimes :-)

It can be pretty violent out here

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by LAJ+Dec 22 2003, 03:35 PM-->