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Just one of those odd things... I got an IM today from someone (you know who you are!) mentioning a recent deal. Oddly, it clicked something in my mind:
Many of the people who appeared on the first couple of seasons of Canadian Showcase show "Webdreams" has disappeared out of the business, or has just gone really, really quiet. This latest deal was just another one of them dropping quietly into silence. Is it a curse? I know Vid Vicious is still at it, and Mark Prince, well, Violet Manson's site redirects to a flower seller, from what I can see. Hmmm. Anybody got an idea about this stuff?
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They trolled the boards looking for free talent a few years back. I strongly advised against it because there was no quid pro quo. Guys like Farrel Timlake and a buncha others said I was nuts. Then they came around and recruited in Vancouver. I did the same thing. More folks thought I was nuts.
No one got anything out of the show except the producers who got free talent. And yeah, the local people around here did not do well and some are gone. The whole thing was a scam from the get go. They pitched it as a documentary, so they couldnt pay. In fact it is just another cheesy tv series but with free talent. |
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"Webdreams" was originally supposed to be a reality show about Carol and I, and the kids! They wanted to show Carol's day to day life, mixed in with the business. Needless to say, she said no. Season 1 was almost all ex-employees and people we knew locally. We set up most of the show in my offices!
No one got a thing from being on the show, except for a little local notoriety in their areas. It was mainly an ego-stroke for everyone. Season 1 wasn't bad, but all just a big set-up. Season 2 was just plain awful with no one coming across well. I felt embarrassed to be in this industry after watching the Season 2 "talent". Season 3 never really got off the ground as they really had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find people. but as Alex mentioned, very few people who have been on that show are actually doing anything anymore. Some are promoting themselves like big time "playas" because of the show, but that just not true in almost all cases. |
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I guess when the big years celebration is drinking a beer from the mini bar in Miami that kinda sums itself up.
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Sorry Michael, I was talking about the producers and "talent" they featured, not the people who just popped up here and there.
They only ran Season 3 once, and it lost its viewership rather quickly. Showcase ended up scrapping the reruns of it they planned, and from what I have heard, the Production Company can't sell the 3rd season to anyone. No one wants it. |
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It really does say something when showcase scraps reruns, because that is about the only way they ever break even on productions.
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We were commenting just last weekend on how the only thing that Showcase is showing on reruns is Season 1. They gave up on Season 2 for their own reruns and is now showing Season 2, late at night, on IFC. As far as i know, there are no plans to rerun Season 3 since the ratings and reviews were abysmal.
There are also no plans for a Season 4... |
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However what I did do was let them know that we would do it in exchange for heavy promotion of our name. If you watch the show, you see "2Much" and "LiveCamNetwork" signs in the background, the names mentioned in the voice overs and by the characters, and even close-ups of the coffee cups everyone was drinking from. This product placement is worth far more than any flat rate or salary they could have offered us. Quote:
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I think overall though the public's interest in the adult industry died years ago. Maybe it was because adult continued to do well after the .com bubble burst in 2001, who knows. |
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You should be flattered that I recommended your product to a purchaser as the best thing on the market regardless of what I think of how you or your Media Guy have conducted yourselves over the years.
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You might have been astute enough to get some product placement, but they disallowed or cut it out for most. They hedged on the distribution which they implied was world wide. I don't like to see our tax dollars paying for media scam artists (imho....disclaimer). They lied to just about everyone that they were making documentary television, when in fact they were making another tv series. They also stirred up a lot of shit for the entertainment value it produced. No documentary producer would do this. I still say there was never the quid pro quo they implied. If you got it, cudos. Those who had stars in their eyes got the shaft. I was in the tv business for many years and I have seen how bozos operate. It embarrassed me. |
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Also, at least during the production phase, they never implied to me anything about world distribution - they were quite open about just getting the Canadian and hoping the concept would sell to an American company. (Then again I did ask lots of questions and screened them like any company that wants to cover us just to make sure their agenda isn't to demonize us...) Anyhow, we're still getting calls from people who saw us (or who claim their brother or teenage son saw us) on TV and would like to know a little more. Might not have paid off in spades, but it paid off, and adds a little to the overall PR strategy.
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