Should Nats Be An Industry Watchdog?

gonzo · 08-10-2006

Hey Yo!
Its Poll Time again.
NATS has just made this statement about suspending a license for some accounting discrepancies of Naked Rhino...
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Too Much Media Suspends Xclusive Cash NATS License
This is a notification that Too Much Media, makers of the NATS affiliate system, have been forced to temporarily suspend the NATS license belonging to N.R. Media, owners and operators of Xclusivecash.com

There was a discrepency between the number of rebills reported to the NATS system from the rebills reported by CCBill. upon attempting to rectify the situation with executives of N.R. Media Too Much Media was met with full resistance and profanity as well as an abruptly terminated phone call.

At which point N.R. Media agrees to fully repopulate the CCBill rebill data to represent the correct figures Too Much Media will reinstate the NATS license.

The suspension of the NATS license will not effect ongoing affiliate sales. It will only disable the adminstration area of NATS so that the program is rendered unusable until the situation is sorted out.

Jace · 08-10-2006

in this case, yes...plain and simple

Toby · 08-10-2006

I say more power to 'em. Protect the integrity of their software.

I do know that my own numbers with Xclusive Cash were very disappointing compared to my numbers from similar sites. I have to now wonder what they really were.

I noticed another program that had their NATS admin suspended briefly late last month, and wondered why. Whatever the issue in that case it was resolved in a few hours.

Peaches · 08-10-2006

Might be interesting to see who leaves NATS after they see that not only will they get caught, they'll get outted too

Jace · 08-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby

I say more power to 'em. Protect the integrity of their software.

I do know that my own numbers with Xclusive Cash were very disappointing compared to my numbers from similar sites. I have to now wonder what they really were.

I noticed another program that had their NATS admin suspended briefly late last month, and wondered why. Whatever the issue in that case it was resolved in a few hours.

in this case, I am 100% for NATS outting the offenders...oops, did I say offenders? shit, wrong word.....maybe

Hammer · 08-10-2006

I think it was unprofessional to post it on GFY, regardless of what happened.

Hell Puppy · 08-10-2006

They're protecting their brand, I understand that. Part of their branding, or positioning at least, is "no shaving".

If John says they told them to go fuck off when confronted, that doesn't offer a lot of other recourse.

Going public sends a message....dont use it if you're going to try to cheat and shave as a sponsor, and on the user side maybe another notch of confidence that NATS programs are clean and honest.

taboo_gal · 08-10-2006

I'd say NATs is definitely founded in their position and resulting action. However, to come out publicly with names is a bit much in my opinion. Whatever went down on the phone/behind closed doors is one thing, to air it is another. I feel that there is a time, place and manner in which examples can be made while remaining discreet and not risk anyone's reputation. Playing Devil's Advocate for a sec, it could have been something as simple and inadvertent as a changed option in the admin or a new recruit changing something they shouldn't have (though the innocent don't often use profanity and hang up on someone, but I am not "in the know" and am being diplomatic). In any case, they should protect their brand and the choice to suspend until rectified is warranted.

TheEnforcer · 08-11-2006

I don't have a problem with it. But if they do do things like that they better make absolutely sure they have a good reason to do so. If they suspended the account of someone who did nothing wrong I have no doubt they would get sued to high heaven, and deservedly so, because of the business it would cost a company.

Jace · 08-11-2006

I would be willing to put money on the fact that TMM posted on the boards after speaking with their lawyers

gonzo · 08-11-2006

Brandi Love responds on her diary...

Friday, August 11, 2006

too many court rooms

Here we go again. I am kinda at a loss of words right now I will be able to explain later but unlike some childish, lying adults I unfortunately know, I will remain quiet until the truth prevails....which it will. Word to the wise "Evil never wins so choose your side wisely". To all my dear friends, thank you for your support and continued assurance that we will overcome the bullshit. Talk to you soon.

xxx
Brandi

spazlabz · 08-11-2006

who is brandi Love and what Evil is she fighting against?

spaz

gonzo · 08-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz

who is brandi Love and what Evil is she fighting against?

spaz

CFO of Xclusive Cash. The program in question by NATS

Toby · 08-11-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by spazlabz

who is brandi Love and what Evil is she fighting against?

spaz

Just in case your query isn't purely rhetorical...

Brandi is Chris' wife and the CFO of N.R. Media. She is also the featured model for thier primary pay site brandilove.com.

As for the "Evil", your guess is as good as mine.

View Poll Results: Should Nats Have Suspended Naked Rhino's License?
Yes - This Industry Needs a Watchdog	5	31.25%
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08-10-2006	#1
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	Should Nats Be An Industry Watchdog? Hey Yo! Its Poll Time again. NATS has just made this statement about suspending a license for some accounting discrepancies of Naked Rhino... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Too Much Media Suspends Xclusive Cash NATS License This is a notification that Too Much Media, makers of the NATS affiliate system, have been forced to temporarily suspend the NATS license belonging to N.R. Media, owners and operators of Xclusivecash.com There was a discrepency between the number of rebills reported to the NATS system from the rebills reported by CCBill. upon attempting to rectify the situation with executives of N.R. Media Too Much Media was met with full resistance and profanity as well as an abruptly terminated phone call. At which point N.R. Media agrees to fully repopulate the CCBill rebill data to represent the correct figures Too Much Media will reinstate the NATS license. The suspension of the NATS license will not effect ongoing affiliate sales. It will only disable the adminstration area of NATS so that the program is rendered unusable until the situation is sorted out. __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

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08-10-2006	#7
Hell Puppy Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,523	Re: Should Nats Be An Industry Watchdog? They're protecting their brand, I understand that. Part of their branding, or positioning at least, is "no shaving". If John says they told them to go fuck off when confronted, that doesn't offer a lot of other recourse. Going public sends a message....dont use it if you're going to try to cheat and shave as a sponsor, and on the user side maybe another notch of confidence that NATS programs are clean and honest.

08-10-2006	#8
taboo_gal Members Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 94	Re: Should Nats Be An Industry Watchdog? I'd say NATs is definitely founded in their position and resulting action. However, to come out publicly with names is a bit much in my opinion. Whatever went down on the phone/behind closed doors is one thing, to air it is another. I feel that there is a time, place and manner in which examples can be made while remaining discreet and not risk anyone's reputation. Playing Devil's Advocate for a sec, it could have been something as simple and inadvertent as a changed option in the admin or a new recruit changing something they shouldn't have (though the innocent don't often use profanity and hang up on someone, but I am not "in the know" and am being diplomatic). In any case, they should protect their brand and the choice to suspend until rectified is warranted. __________________

08-11-2006	#9
TheEnforcer Scored VIP to Anton's Piss Tank Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,781	Re: Should Nats Be An Industry Watchdog? I don't have a problem with it. But if they do do things like that they better make absolutely sure they have a good reason to do so. If they suspended the account of someone who did nothing wrong I have no doubt they would get sued to high heaven, and deservedly so, because of the business it would cost a company.

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