The strike in New York city - its pretty bad.

Biggy · 12-22-2005

Not sure how many of you are following this, but the TWU (tranport workers union) is striking in NYC because of very minor issues. The MTA (gov't agency Metropolitan Transit Authority) wants future workers to pay 1% of their medical premiums, instead of 0%. Retirement age would go from 55 to 62, and kick in after 30 years on the job, whereas before it was 25 years. The MTA also offered current workers 3% raises in each of three years, on top of average salaries of $48,000. The union is striking until the pension idea is completely pulled from the table.

Although some people don't say they dont mind the strike (and enjoy the fact they are getting exercise), it is pretty bad and selfish of the workers. My sister lives downtown, she walks an hour in the cold each way to get to work every day the workers strike. Kids aren't making it to school, business is being slowed. I feel particularly bad for the elderly and others who it takes a serious toll on, remember the weather this time of year is brutally cold. Bloomberg should throw Toussaint (the union leader) in jail. The city is deep in debt, when Bloomberg came to office he increased parking ticket fines from $35 to $105, and reduced trash pickup to I believe once a week (thats why the trash gets so built up) as just some measures to help the city financially. Not only that, the city is simply asking them not to strike (striking is against the law), and to continue to work while negotiations go on.

Pretty ridiculous to put NYC thru all this right before XMAS and in the heart of the holiday season.

Evil Chris · 12-22-2005

How do these changes compare to other major metropolitan cities and their transport authorities and unions?

They must be basing the changes on something.

Peaches · 12-22-2005

Unions are outdated and most of the guys at the bottom are such sheep they do whatever they're told by the leaders not realizing they're screwing themselves over in the process

DrGuile · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Unions are outdated and most of the guys at the bottom are such sheep they do whatever they're told by the leaders not realizing they're screwing themselves over in the process

Unions are a necessary evil...

Dravyk · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by DrGuile

Unions are a necessary evil...

I hate it those rare times I have to agree with you.

DrGuile · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Dravyk

I hate it those rare times I have to agree with you.

Im always right.

So if you agree with me only on rare occasion, what does that tell you?

Think about it...

TheEnforcer · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by DrGuile

Im always right.

So if you agree with me only on rare occasion, what does that tell you?

Think about it...

Dravyk · 12-22-2005

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Originally Posted by DrGuile

Im always right.

So if you agree with me only on rare occasion, what does that tell you?

Think about it...

It tells me your hypothesis that you are always right is in error.

bummer · 12-22-2005

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/business/labor_and_workplace

they are saying that the workers are going back while the negotiations take place.

bummer

Biggy · 12-22-2005

Toussaint must have read my thread... the Strike is OVER!

MorganGrayson · 12-22-2005

Once upon a time, unions *were* necessary.

Now, they're just evil.

My husband used to be a dock supervisor (management, non-union) for a trucking company. He dealt, naturally, with Teamsters. One of the Teamsters came to work one day and shot the shop steward. He *wasn't* fired. Apparently, there's nothing in their contract about shooting other Teamsters.

The other things that were in the contract were both astounding and appalling.

Anybody else out there getting paid day off because it's your birthday?????

DrGuile · 12-23-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Once upon a time, unions *were* necessary.

Now, they're just evil.

My husband used to be a dock supervisor (management, non-union) for a trucking company. He dealt, naturally, with Teamsters. One of the Teamsters came to work one day and shot the shop steward. He *wasn't* fired. Apparently, there's nothing in their contract about shooting other Teamsters.

The other things that were in the contract were both astounding and appalling.

Anybody else out there getting paid day off because it's your birthday?????

Ok, lets remove unions and see what happens...

PornoDoggy · 12-23-2005

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Originally Posted by DrGuile

Ok, lets remove unions and see what happens...

16 tons and whattya get ...

PornoDoggy · 12-23-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Once upon a time, unions *were* necessary.

Now, they're just evil.

My husband used to be a dock supervisor (management, non-union) for a trucking company. He dealt, naturally, with Teamsters. One of the Teamsters came to work one day and shot the shop steward. He *wasn't* fired. Apparently, there's nothing in their contract about shooting other Teamsters.

The other things that were in the contract were both astounding and appalling.

Anybody else out there getting paid day off because it's your birthday?????

I suppose the Union contract protected him from being arrested and prosecuted, too?

Actually, I got a paid birthday holiday when I worked for a bank - an industry that is not now nor never has been unionized.

What, exactly, is so astounding and appalling about it?

Evil Chris · 12-22-2005

For the most part, unions are a corrupt bunch of whiners.

Dravyk · 12-23-2005

Unions are just the flip side of the evil coin.

12-22-2005	#1
Biggy Members Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 768	The strike in New York city - its pretty bad. Not sure how many of you are following this, but the TWU (tranport workers union) is striking in NYC because of very minor issues. The MTA (gov't agency Metropolitan Transit Authority) wants future workers to pay 1% of their medical premiums, instead of 0%. Retirement age would go from 55 to 62, and kick in after 30 years on the job, whereas before it was 25 years. The MTA also offered current workers 3% raises in each of three years, on top of average salaries of $48,000. The union is striking until the pension idea is completely pulled from the table. Although some people don't say they dont mind the strike (and enjoy the fact they are getting exercise), it is pretty bad and selfish of the workers. My sister lives downtown, she walks an hour in the cold each way to get to work every day the workers strike. Kids aren't making it to school, business is being slowed. I feel particularly bad for the elderly and others who it takes a serious toll on, remember the weather this time of year is brutally cold. Bloomberg should throw Toussaint (the union leader) in jail. The city is deep in debt, when Bloomberg came to office he increased parking ticket fines from $35 to $105, and reduced trash pickup to I believe once a week (thats why the trash gets so built up) as just some measures to help the city financially. Not only that, the city is simply asking them not to strike (striking is against the law), and to continue to work while negotiations go on. Pretty ridiculous to put NYC thru all this right before XMAS and in the heart of the holiday season. __________________ Create a solid TGP presence for your site(s). ICQ: 110850739

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