If you have children, read this thread

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Trying to avoid this sounding like spam, but really is no way.
Serge, I will have an explanation for you later.

Ok, the new company my partner and I have started JRJ LLC is not adult, but deals with child safety. The website is www.jrjco.com
Please take a look and ask any questions you might have and I will
answer them. What Im looking for from you is feedback. Do you like
the idea, would you get one for your kid/s etc...

We have a meeting with Ontec www.ontec.com Oct. 12th in Phoenix AZ, who will be partnering with us to do our tracking and Iridium www.iridium.com has the satellites which we will lease.

I look forward to your response and thanks for checking it out.

justb · 10-04-2005

Wow, what a great idea. How much do you think the costs will be?

voodooman · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by justb

Wow, what a great idea. How much do you think the costs will be?

We will not know until after our meeting on the 12th. From the research I have done though, I'm estimating it at $100.00.

What I failed to mention previously and on the website is, Iridium has 66 LEO or low earth orbiting satellites in flight and 11 more in outer space as backups.

This will be a GLOBAL market and available to anyone, anywhere.

Nickatilynx · 10-04-2005

As he is an old friend of Oprano , could someone pin this thread please

voodooman · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

As he is an old friend of Oprano , could someone pin this thread please

Thank You very much Nick. You should recieve a fruit basket soon.

sextoyking · 10-04-2005

Good idea Voodo!!!

MorganGrayson · 10-04-2005

Hey! How about a little smooche for the mod who actually *pinned* the thread!

(Going to have to teach you how to do that someday, Nick.

)

voodooman...the only think I would suggest you do is emphasize that people who live in "security buildings" in New York get robbed. Why? They forget to lock their doors, they don't have enough locks, the forget to turn on their security systems. They become complacent because of the minimum wage guy in the pretty uniform at the desk. Other New Yorkers have six big locks on a steel door.

Tell the parents not to become complacent because they've slapped a high tech device around their kid's wrist. All of the usual parental supervision *must* stay in place...unless what they really want is to make it easier for the cops to find the body.

Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute...now that a young child has a GPS system on them...who else can find them? Your site should also focus on the security systems you have in place to prevent anyone else from getting in and finding the locations of young children laid out for them.

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

Hey! How about a little smooche for the mod who actually *pinned* the thread!

(Going to have to teach you how to do that someday, Nick.

)

voodooman...the only think I would suggest you do is emphasize that people who live in "security buildings" in New York get robbed. Why? They forget to lock their doors, they don't have enough locks, the forget to turn on their security systems. They become complacent because of the minimum wage guy in the pretty uniform at the desk. Other New Yorkers have six big locks on a steel door.

Tell the parents not to become complacent because they've slapped a high tech device around their kid's wrist. All of the usual parental supervision *must* stay in place...unless what they really want is to make it easier for the cops to find the body.

Playing Devil's Advocate for a minute...now that a young child has a GPS system on them...who else can find them? Your site should also focus on the security systems you have in place to prevent anyone else from getting in and finding the locations of young children laid out for them.

Theres a smooch for you my dear.

Ontec will be creating the software for the device. Currently they do vehicle tracking but was excited about moving into this market.
We still have alot of work to do on the project but this is not a babysitter and will market it as such. Through education and the most up to date technology, we will take those steps to prevent identity theft of our clients.

MorganGrayson · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by voodooman

Theres a smooch for you my dear.

Ontec will be creating the software for the device. Currently they do vehicle tracking but was excited about moving into this market.
We still have alot of work to do on the project but this is not a babysitter and will market it as such. Through education and the most up to date technology, we will take those steps to prevent identity theft of our clients.

I think the "making them cool/pretty" idea is great...because it can't *look* like a "safety device" or the first thing any criminal would do is cut them off. Also, the obvious: making the cool looking would go a long way toward making the kid wear them without the usual fuss parents go through. (Trying to explain - in response to "you don't trust me!!!" - that it isn't the KID that isn't trusted, it's the rest of the planet that isn't trusted is a bitch.)

The elementary schools all had these big "protect your children!" Throb-A-Thons that gave out packets to hold the latest pics and the fingerprints they took. I became unpopular by calling them the "Indentify the Body Kits." Hell, that's what they *were.* How does having your kids prints on file "protect" them? It frigging *doesn't.* It just helps identify the body.

Would I have gotten these for my kids when they were younger? Yes. They would have been strapped on and never used until a curfew was missed and panic set in, should that have happened.

voodooman · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by MorganGrayson

I think the "making them cool/pretty" idea is great...because it can't *look* like a "safety device" or the first thing any criminal would do is cut them off. Also, the obvious: making the cool looking would go a long way toward making the kid wear them without the usual fuss parents go through. (Trying to explain - in response to "you don't trust me!!!" - that it isn't the KID that isn't trusted, it's the rest of the planet that isn't trusted is a bitch.)

The elementary schools all had these big "protect your children!" Throb-A-Thons that gave out packets to hold the latest pics and the fingerprints they took. I became unpopular by calling them the "Indentify the Body Kits." Hell, that's what they *were.* How does having your kids prints on file "protect" them? It frigging *doesn't.* It just helps identify the body.

Would I have gotten these for my kids when they were younger? Yes. They would have been strapped on and never used until a curfew was missed and panic set in, should that have happened.

Morgan, Even if the band is cut off, a signal is instantly sent to our company which will then contact local law enforcement to issue an Amber Alert.
I also agree with you on the fingerprinting. As a police officer, I fingerprint hundreds of kids a year and think to myself, what real good is this doing. This idea was created from those thoughts, people need prevention, not identification.

voodooman · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by sextoyking

Good idea Voodo!!!

Thank you Todd.

Dravyk · 10-04-2005

Excellent, VDM!!

Bhelliom · 10-04-2005

and here I came in here ready to make a snide comment about being childlike...
But that is a pretty cool product... I'm sure if I had small children.... or was dealing with my teenage daughter sneaking out of the house.... I'd be all over that like a fat kid on a smartie

I was wondering though... It mentions that if it is cut off the device wil lbe activated autmoatically. Does that imply that the bracelet cannot otherwise be removed? I mean, assuming I had children, that if i gave it to her as a gift to monitor them covertly, would it be obvious?
and how do you plan to get past the people who will inevitably claim this is just an attempt to track people "big brother" - like?

Definitely impressed though and good luck with it

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhelliom

and here I came in here ready to make a snide comment about being childlike...
But that is a pretty cool product... I'm sure if I had small children.... or was dealing with my teenage daughter sneaking out of the house.... I'd be all over that like a fat kid on a smartie

I was wondering though... It mentions that if it is cut off the device wil lbe activated autmoatically. Does that imply that the bracelet cannot otherwise be removed? I mean, assuming I had children, that if i gave it to her as a gift to monitor them covertly, would it be obvious?
and how do you plan to get past the people who will inevitably claim this is just an attempt to track people "big brother" - like?

Definitely impressed though and good luck with it

Bhelliom,
I don't even want to know what a smartie is

But, The bracelet can be removed remotely through the net or by making a phone call to our company.
The device is not very big, as a matter of fact the gps chip is only 7mm squared. I will post pics of the device pretty soon.
As for the big brother question, Im sure I will get this alot and the only response I would have is we are a private company, not government.

Nickatilynx · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooman

Trying to avoid this sounding like spam, but really is no way.
Serge, I will have an explanation for you later.

Ok, the new company my partner and I have started JRJ LLC is not adult, but deals with child safety. The website is www.jrjco.com
Please take a look and ask any questions you might have and I will
answer them. What Im looking for from you is feedback. Do you like
the idea, would you get one for your kid/s etc...

We have a meeting with Ontec www.ontec.com Oct. 12th in Phoenix AZ, who will be partnering with us to do our tracking and Iridium www.iridium.com has the satellites which we will lease.

I look forward to your response and thanks for checking it out.

I'm sure other people do the same , with a watch I think.

There is also a lot of other applications I would think..

Very interesting......

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I'm sure other people do the same , with a watch I think.

There is also a lot of other applications I would think..

Very interesting......

Nick, you are correct. There is another company doing a watch, and not to knock them, but the device is HUGE and only waterproof to 8 feet.

sextoyking · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by voodooman

Nick, you are correct. There is another company doing a watch, and not to knock them, but the device is HUGE and only waterproof to 8 feet.

Watches are also a great idea.

Man if you could get some branding agreements with Disney, NFL, etc, etc the kids would sure have an easier time wearing these or being talked into it

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Dravyk, PD and Trev,

Thanks for your replies!

Newton · 10-04-2005

Voodooman, a truly excellent idea and kudos to you .. fantastic as it gives peace of mind to parents

Peaches · 10-04-2005

Very nice idea Kirk!

Pending is spelled wrong though

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

Very nice idea Kirk!

Pending is spelled wrong though

I forgot the spell check. Thank you for pointing it out.
I knew if I posted here, I could get everything ironed out,
as Oprano is the BEST.

sextoyking · 10-04-2005

if the parents could pay a set (higher) monthly fee or something, mabey they could track them from home with some registered software you provide them.

Boom - a big map pops up and they know exactly where the kids are...

Trev · 10-04-2005

This is a fantastic idea, as a not so new father I would definitely go for a product/service like this.

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

if the parents could pay a set (higher) monthly fee or something, mabey they could track them from home with some registered software you provide them.

Boom - a big map pops up and they know exactly where the kids are...

Ontec will be designing these maps for us, already have this covered.
As for the rebills, only anually.

Rolo · 10-04-2005

They have been testing http://www.kidspotter.com/ at some theme parks (ex. at Lego Land in Europe). Dunno if its similar (they use WI-FI), but if I had kids, then I would put GPS transmitters on them, and follow them like it was 1984 ;-))

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolo

They have been testing http://www.kidspotter.com/ at some theme parks (ex. at Lego Land in Europe). Dunno if its similar (they use WI-FI), but if I had kids, then I would put GPS transmitters on them, and follow them like it was 1984 ;-))

Rolo,
I did a massive amount of research on this before starting and found only one company has anything similar and thats the watch which is in my opinion, just to big for a child.
Kidspotter is a similar device, and as mentioned it uses WI-FI but does not have the tamper proof band.

Rolo · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooman

Rolo,
I did a massive amount of research on this before starting and found only one company has anything similar and thats the watch which is in my opinion, just to big for a child.
Kidspotter is a similar device, and as mentioned it uses WI-FI but does not have the tamper proof band.

I agree it looks big, but it works... the alternative today are cellphones, which I know alot of parents are getting their kids - have even seen 6-8 year olds with cellphones.

sextoyking · 10-04-2005

As others have said in the past

"I can smell the rebills"

PornoDoggy · 10-04-2005

Sounds like a great idea ... good luck with it.

Bhelliom · 10-04-2005

Nice rolo... That makes two Orwellian references so far

Bhelliom · 10-04-2005

sounds good... that's a very small chip...

a smartie is a candy..... which is why a fat kid would jump all over them to get it....

sextoyking · 10-04-2005

I have 5 daughters - well 1 is in college now so I guess I can't track her

but the others would be nice as they get older.

think of the accessories Voodo, start with a bracelet, but then you can do like necklaces, shirts (if washing would be ok ), ankle bracelets, etc, etc You tell your kids they have to wear this or that device for thier safety but you will give them a choice on some cool things to wear...

If this could take off you could brand the "M & M (singer or candy) I'm safe bracelet", etc

Trev · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

I have 5 daughters - well 1 is in college now so I guess I can't track her

but the others would be nice as they get older.

think of the accessories Voodo, start with a bracelet, but then you can do like necklaces, shirts (if washing would be ok ), ankle bracelets, etc, etc You tell your kids they have to wear this or that device for thier safety but you will give them a choice on some cool things to wear...

If this could take off you could brand the "M & M (singer or candy) I'm safe bracelet", etc

He should have a word with Sarettah's wife Jen, she makes some fantastic jewelry that these chips could be hidden in

Red · 10-04-2005

That's a fantastic idea voodooman. The only suggestion I would have is to not use the big brother referrence on the main page. Even though you are not the government, the term has negative connotations and you don't want anything negative in a sales pitch. Stress safety, not control.

Once it gets going, you should think about using the technology in collars for pets. For some of us, they are also our children.

voodooman · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by Red

That's a fantastic idea voodooman. The only suggestion I would have is to not use the big brother referrence on the main page. Even though you are not the government, the term has negative connotations and you don't want anything negative in a sales pitch. Stress safety, not control.

Once it gets going, you should think about using the technology in collars for pets. For some of us, they are also our children.

Red,
As I debated with myself as to use that wording Big Brother, I chose to go ahead with it hoping it would serve as an example more than action. After reading what you said, I think I will change it. Thank You!!!
As for the pet collars, believe it or not, thats an idea I also had, but for now I just want to get this running.
Its amazing how much money you can spend starting up something like this.
Like the ol adage reads, takes money to make money.

Trev · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by voodooman

Like the ol adage reads, takes money to make money.

Red · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooman

Red,
As I debated with myself as to use that wording Big Brother, I chose to go ahead with it hoping it would serve as an example more than action. After reading what you said, I think I will change it. Thank You!!!

You're welcome.

sarettah · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

think of the accessories Voodo, start with a bracelet, but then you can do like necklaces, shirts (if washing would be ok ), ankle bracelets, etc, etc You tell your kids they have to wear this or that device for thier safety but you will give them a choice on some cool things to wear...

I like it

Even happen to know someone you could partner with at http://www.weekend-jewelry.com and http://www.paperjewels.com

They could be stuck right into the middle of the paper/lacquer process

Good luck with it Voodoo

Trev · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

I like it

Even happen to know someone you could partner with at http://www.weekend-jewelry.com and http://www.paperjewels.com

They could be stuck right into the middle of the paper/lacquer process

Good luck with it Voodoo

Didn't I just suggest something along these lines

sarettah · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by Trev

Didn't I just suggest something along these lines

Perhaps... But I hardly ever read your posts so I wouldn't know....

MorganGrayson · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

I like it

Even happen to know someone you could partner with at http://www.weekend-jewelry.com and http://www.paperjewels.com

They could be stuck right into the middle of the paper/lacquer process

Good luck with it Voodoo

I've looked at both of those sites and we are talking some *seriously* gorgeous jewelry here!!

sarettah · 10-04-2005

Jen says Thanx Morgan

Cap'n Kirk.......

Was just yakking with my better half and she indicated that something 7mm could be incorporated into just about anything jewelrywise.

But it also kicked off something in my head as to the marketability of this thing you got there

)) There is (imho) a potential market for this thing for adults. With all the different folks disappearing etc there is a chance to market this to people just so someone in the family can find out the last place they were.

that version would not have to be "nonremovable" per se, because the person would be wearing it by choice. They put on their "gps" earrings, go to the computer and tell the site that they are heading out for the evening and to keep track of them, etc...

Also, elderly, alzheimers patients... all sorts of possibillities ther my friend

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

Jen says Thanx Morgan

Cap'n Kirk.......

Was just yakking with my better half and she indicated that something 7mm could be incorporated into just about anything jewelrywise.

But it also kicked off something in my head as to the marketability of this thing you got there

)) There is (imho) a potential market for this thing for adults. With all the different folks disappearing etc there is a chance to market this to people just so someone in the family can find out the last place they were.

that version would not have to be "nonremovable" per se, because the person would be wearing it by choice. They put on their "gps" earrings, go to the computer and tell the site that they are heading out for the evening and to keep track of them, etc...

Also, elderly, alzheimers patients... all sorts of possibillities ther my friend

This device is universal, children, elderly, whoever. The band is adjustable sort of like a watch band, but has inserts instead of one band with holes. I will post pics as soon as I get them back from our Attorney.

Red · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Also, elderly, alzheimers patients... all sorts of possibillities ther my friend

That's a wonderful idea.

Also, how about putting them in the tips of shoelaces for those kids who don't want to wear bracelets?

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

I like it

Even happen to know someone you could partner with at http://www.weekend-jewelry.com and http://www.paperjewels.com

They could be stuck right into the middle of the paper/lacquer process

Good luck with it Voodoo

I will not rule out anything at this point sare.

gigi · 10-04-2005

It's already all been said, so, I'll just say great idea voodoo! I'd use it for sure....best of luck with it!

voodooman · 10-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

I have 5 daughters - well 1 is in college now so I guess I can't track her

but the others would be nice as they get older.

think of the accessories Voodo, start with a bracelet, but then you can do like necklaces, shirts (if washing would be ok ), ankle bracelets, etc, etc You tell your kids they have to wear this or that device for thier safety but you will give them a choice on some cool things to wear...

If this could take off you could brand the "M & M (singer or candy) I'm safe bracelet", etc

Accessories are in the works, but we are just trying to get this up and running right now. My vision for accessories is skins for the device with anything from college football teams to barbie, anything to change the look of it.
As for a name for the device, we are waiting for a response from Beth Twitty. I sent her a letter to inquire if we may use the name The Holloway Bracelet.

Bhelliom · 10-04-2005

why do children have to be talked into anything? that's the problem with fucking kids today......

child" i don't wanna wear it"
parent "wear it because i told you to i'm the parent, and if you take it off you're not going out"

simple... I can't wait to be a dad....

I got away with fuck all and my kids sure as hell aren't either.... none of this pussyfooting around... they won't break

Trev · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by Bhelliom

I got away with fuck all and my kids sure as hell aren't either.... none of this pussyfooting around... they won't break

The way it should be.

Rolo · 10-04-2005

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Originally Posted by Bhelliom

simple... I can't wait to be a dad....

My entire family tree´s genes survival is on my big shoulders now... or so I was told by my father, when he figured out that I was most likely to get him grandkids... I´m having performance anxiety ;-)))

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voodooman Members Respin bullshit press Your Comments Are Welcomed Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,695	If you have children, read this thread Trying to avoid this sounding like spam, but really is no way. Serge, I will have an explanation for you later. Ok, the new company my partner and I have started JRJ LLC is not adult, but deals with child safety. The website is www.jrjco.com Please take a look and ask any questions you might have and I will answer them. What Im looking for from you is feedback. Do you like the idea, would you get one for your kid/s etc... We have a meeting with Ontec www.ontec.com Oct. 12th in Phoenix AZ, who will be partnering with us to do our tracking and Iridium www.iridium.com has the satellites which we will lease. I look forward to your response and thanks for checking it out.

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Bhelliom Will fuck for beer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,143	Re: If you have children, read this thread and here I came in here ready to make a snide comment about being childlike... But that is a pretty cool product... I'm sure if I had small children.... or was dealing with my teenage daughter sneaking out of the house.... I'd be all over that like a fat kid on a smartie I was wondering though... It mentions that if it is cut off the device wil lbe activated autmoatically. Does that imply that the bracelet cannot otherwise be removed? I mean, assuming I had children, that if i gave it to her as a gift to monitor them covertly, would it be obvious? and how do you plan to get past the people who will inevitably claim this is just an attempt to track people "big brother" - like? Definitely impressed though and good luck with it __________________ I am a Sado-Machiavellian. As long as I cum in the end... It doesn't matter what I did to get there. :yowsa: I just made that term up.... pretty good eh?

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sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	Re: If you have children, read this thread Jen says Thanx Morgan Cap'n Kirk....... Was just yakking with my better half and she indicated that something 7mm could be incorporated into just about anything jewelrywise. But it also kicked off something in my head as to the marketability of this thing you got there )) There is (imho) a potential market for this thing for adults. With all the different folks disappearing etc there is a chance to market this to people just so someone in the family can find out the last place they were. that version would not have to be "nonremovable" per se, because the person would be wearing it by choice. They put on their "gps" earrings, go to the computer and tell the site that they are heading out for the evening and to keep track of them, etc... Also, elderly, alzheimers patients... all sorts of possibillities ther my friend __________________ Free Adult Webcams

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gigi on prozac - be gentle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 1,069	Re: If you have children, read this thread It's already all been said, so, I'll just say great idea voodoo! I'd use it for sure....best of luck with it! __________________ A bit of fragrance always clings to the hand that gives the rose mail me