Ok, here's the plan

sarettah · 09-09-2005

Once they pump all the water out of the "soup Bowl":

1. Level all buildings in low lying areas.
2. Fill in the soup bowl with dirt. Right up to the top of the levees.
3. Pack it all down.
4. Plant trees, lawns, gardens.
5. Build new, up to code, housing on the newly created high ground.

Fix the somewhat lesser damage in the french quarter and downtown.

This would be a major project, but it seems to me we now have at least a couple of hundred thousand newly unemployed to pull in as a work force. Plus if it is done with the idea that the people that were living there are the ones that will be moving back, this would give folks who worked on the project a "personal investment" in their city. Plus imagine all the architects, engineers, construction folks, etc etc that would have new projects to bid on.

Now some of you might say it is too big of a job, but think of it, The Erie canal was dug mainly by hand, the panama canal was dug out by man and machine, Orlando was a swamp that they filled in, Cape Coral the same way.

We have done projects to that scale before.

So, why not ?

XxXotic · 09-09-2005

why not? because in 5 years when another CAT5 hits new orleans ya gotta start all over. As much as I love NOLA I really have to question whether or not rebuilding is economically worth it. We're already looking at a 7.9 Trillion dollar debt and bush just approved $65B in aide, with presumably more coming. Plus the cost of rebuilding the city pretty much from the ground up and the potential will still be there to wipe out the city.

I dunno, it's a tough call, I really hate to see New Orleans go, but I really can't see spending the money to get it back, at least not with the monumental debt we're facing right now

sarettah · 09-09-2005

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

why not? because in 5 years when another CAT5 hits new orleans ya gotta start all over. As much as I love NOLA I really have to question whether or not rebuilding is economically worth it. We're already looking at a 7.9 Trillion dollar debt and bush just approved $65B in aide, with presumably more coming. Plus the cost of rebuilding the city pretty much from the ground up and the potential will still be there to wipe out the city.

I dunno, it's a tough call, I really hate to see New Orleans go, but I really can't see spending the money to get it back, at least not with the monumental debt we're facing right now

You build smart. You build high. You build to be able to withstand 300+ mph wind force. You go back to the American way, overengineer the fuck out of everything. Use nothing but the most up to date modern materials. No trees being cut down. A kevlar city, a lexan city, a plastic and stainless steel city.

Build the first true Twenty First century city.

Screw the cost, we always find some way to pay for shit. Hell, a few months back we forgave 4 billion bucks worth of Iraqi debt with the stroke of a pen, not an eye blink was caused. (But don't get me started on economics, that is a whole nother ball of wax that I can spend hours on)

sarettah · 09-09-2005

And go with a solar and wind power energy infrastructure backed up by tidal generators. Next time a storm surge comes in, capture the fuck out of the energy that it has in it and use it to light the city sitting up there above the surge with folks sitting on their kevlar porches looking through 5 inch - perfectly clear plexi-polymer windows watching the storm while they eat their dinners because, dammit, the storm is screwing with the satellite reception.

nlphoto · 09-10-2005

this type of scope and vision was proposed by Kennedy when he put out the call for a man on the moon in a seven year timeframe... don't think Dubya is up to it... of course don't count out the cost to secure such an inviting target to any variety of either domestic or foreign terrorism.

sarettah · 09-10-2005

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Originally Posted by nlphoto

this type of scope and vision was proposed by Kennedy when he put out the call for a man on the moon in a seven year timeframe... don't think Dubya is up to it... of course don't count out the cost to secure such an inviting target to any variety of either domestic or foreign terrorism.

Yeah, the same sort of spirit as that.

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Dravyk · 09-10-2005

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Originally Posted by nlphoto

this type of scope and vision was proposed by Kennedy when he put out the call for a man on the moon in a seven year timeframe... don't think Dubya is up to it... of course don't count out the cost to secure such an inviting target to any variety of either domestic or foreign terrorism.

I agree!

Sadly ... the Roman Emperors could do it (time and time again), Roosevelt could do it, Kennedy could start it and Johnson complete it, I'll even (gasp!) say that Reagan could have done it (see? bipartisan)

... Dubya can't make a peanut butter sandwich with a kiddie knife without cutting himself.

XxXotic · 09-10-2005

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You build smart. You build high. You build to be able to withstand 300+ mph wind force. You go back to the American way, overengineer the fuck out of everything. Use nothing but the most up to date modern materials. No trees being cut down. A kevlar city, a lexan city, a plastic and stainless steel city.

Build the first true Twenty First century city.

Screw the cost, we always find some way to pay for shit. Hell, a few months back we forgave 4 billion bucks worth of Iraqi debt with the stroke of a pen, not an eye blink was caused. (But don't get me started on economics, that is a whole nother ball of wax that I can spend hours on)

we simply can't afford it though, forgiving a 4 billion dollar debt and relieving an 8 trillion dollar debt... apples and oranges. 4B is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things.

A mounting debt can and WILL be the collapse of this country, how much further into debt should we be willing to go? Doesn't China already own enough of america? Or should we all start learning a new language?

I would love to see it rebuilt, honestly I would but we just don't have the bankroll to support a project of that size. You really can't discuss a project like what you're describing without also discussing the economics. It's a great idea, I really like it, but think about how hi-tech you're talking... it's not going to be inexpensive

Carrie · 09-10-2005

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

Doesn't China already own enough of america? Or should we all start learning a new language?

My kids are in the beginning stages of learning latin-american spanish, and once they get pretty proficient at that we're going to add in mandarin chinese.
No joke, no bragging... just trying to prepare them for what *their* future will be.

XxXotic · 09-10-2005

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Originally Posted by Carrie

My kids are in the beginning stages of learning latin-american spanish, and once they get pretty proficient at that we're going to add in mandarin chinese.
No joke, no bragging... just trying to prepare them for what *their* future will be.

better throw in a year or two of ebonics

god I hate louisiana....

PornoDoggy · 09-10-2005

I think, when all is said and done, there will be a yuppie/gentry amusement park calling itself New Orleans that will have all the soul of, to borrow from Mr. Buffett (Jimmy, not Warren) the menu at a Holiday Inn.

ThrobX · 09-10-2005

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Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

I think, when all is said and done, there will be a yuppie/gentry amusement park calling itself New Orleans that will have all the soul of, to borrow from Mr. Buffett (Jimmy, not Warren) the menu at a Holiday Inn.

Agreed. If they do rebuild with any additional cost applied to fortifying the area from future hurricane damage, it'll increase the real estate costs such that dem po' folks who are now in Baton Rouge/Houston/etc. won't be able to afford to come back. Not that that's part of the plan or anything...

Carrie · 09-10-2005

Sare what would you do with the business district? Not necessarily the CBD like where Buff is that didn't get flooded, but a mile or so away - like the moat around the Superdome and such?
All of those structures are still standing and crews are in the process now of clean-up, but sitting where they're at they're still susceptible to flooding, having their walls fall off, etc.
What I'm saying is, once one part of the city decides that it's time to clean up, you're not going to get them to stray off of the "clean it up now and open it back up for business" mode of thinking.

I like the positive thinking of the idea, I just can't help thinking that NO is just too susceptible to natural disasters from both North and South, and it has a Superfund site in it...

But the Jimmy Buffet line about sums it up. If anything is razed and rebuilt, that's what you're going to get. If they just clean up and repair, you'll get the old NO back.

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sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	Ok, here's the plan Once they pump all the water out of the "soup Bowl": 1. Level all buildings in low lying areas. 2. Fill in the soup bowl with dirt. Right up to the top of the levees. 3. Pack it all down. 4. Plant trees, lawns, gardens. 5. Build new, up to code, housing on the newly created high ground. Fix the somewhat lesser damage in the french quarter and downtown. This would be a major project, but it seems to me we now have at least a couple of hundred thousand newly unemployed to pull in as a work force. Plus if it is done with the idea that the people that were living there are the ones that will be moving back, this would give folks who worked on the project a "personal investment" in their city. Plus imagine all the architects, engineers, construction folks, etc etc that would have new projects to bid on. Now some of you might say it is too big of a job, but think of it, The Erie canal was dug mainly by hand, the panama canal was dug out by man and machine, Orlando was a swamp that they filled in, Cape Coral the same way. We have done projects to that scale before. So, why not ? __________________ Free Adult Webcams

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XxXotic Cheese is the DEVIL! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wit Yo baby's momma Posts: 291	Re: Ok, here's the plan why not? because in 5 years when another CAT5 hits new orleans ya gotta start all over. As much as I love NOLA I really have to question whether or not rebuilding is economically worth it. We're already looking at a 7.9 Trillion dollar debt and bush just approved $65B in aide, with presumably more coming. Plus the cost of rebuilding the city pretty much from the ground up and the potential will still be there to wipe out the city. I dunno, it's a tough call, I really hate to see New Orleans go, but I really can't see spending the money to get it back, at least not with the monumental debt we're facing right now __________________ Please Donate to the Red Cross Katrina Crushed Louisiana Not Home Right Now, Please Leave A Message

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Carrie Eternal Newbie Respin bullshit press Your Comments Are Welcomed Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Inside your monitor Posts: 2,850	Re: Ok, here's the plan Sare what would you do with the business district? Not necessarily the CBD like where Buff is that didn't get flooded, but a mile or so away - like the moat around the Superdome and such? All of those structures are still standing and crews are in the process now of clean-up, but sitting where they're at they're still susceptible to flooding, having their walls fall off, etc. What I'm saying is, once one part of the city decides that it's time to clean up, you're not going to get them to stray off of the "clean it up now and open it back up for business" mode of thinking. I like the positive thinking of the idea, I just can't help thinking that NO is just too susceptible to natural disasters from both North and South, and it has a Superfund site in it... But the Jimmy Buffet line about sums it up. If anything is razed and rebuilt, that's what you're going to get. If they just clean up and repair, you'll get the old NO back.