Bush breaks out the big guns....

[sarettah]

Looks like they are sending in the Bulldog....... This ought to be fun to watch. Going after Bush is one thing... But Cheney will eat them alive.....



http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/206/nati..._in_Iraq+.shtml

Cheney says reports justified case for war in Iraq


By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff, 7/25/2003

ASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney, breaking his silence about the controversy surrounding the Bush administration's use of intelligence to justify the Iraq war, yesterday repeatedly cited an October 2002 report that warned Saddam Hussein was seeking to develop nuclear weapons.

But Cheney did not say whether he had read the section of the report that recorded the State Department's dissent, which said it was ''highly dubious'' that Iraq had sought uranium from Africa to produce nuclear weapons. Previously, Cheney's staff has said the vice president cleared President Bush's State of the Union speech in January, when Bush referred to Iraq seeking uranium from Africa.

[Torone]

The whole thing about uranium from Niger is ridiculous and shows how desperate and dishonest the Dems are...If you look at the entire sentence, what Bush said is true. The UK still stands behind it on the basis of other intel. Further, the vote to go to war was in October, BEFORE the State of the Union Speech in January.

I honestly can't see how anyone would ever vote Democratic again.

BTW, that BS about needing 2 parties is just that. There will always be at least 2 parties.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Torone@Jul 25 2003, 08:07 AM
I honestly can't see how anyone would ever vote Democratic again.

BTW, that BS about needing 2 parties is just that. There will always be at least 2 parties.

The Republicans are every bit as dirty as the Democrats.

Are you contradicting yourself or just saying that if the Democrats didn't exist another party would take their place anyway? I'm pretty sure that party would look a lot like the Democratic party anyway. Party platforms evolve to capture more votes.

Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin.



Last edited by Colin at Jul 25 2003, 08:21 AM

[PornoDoggy]

If the issue was as simple as 16 words in one speech, this whole thing would have blown over by now. And Cheney will make some biting comments, to be sure ... but his appeal is mostly to the party faithful and the bobble-heads. I don't think of Cheney as a "big gun" - more like an annoying little yap dog.

Now, personally, it doesn't suprise me that Torone is critical of a multiparty system.

[Torone]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Jul 25 2003, 07:35 AM
If the issue was as simple as 16 words in one speech, this whole thing would have blown over by now. And Cheney will make some biting comments, to be sure ... but his appeal is mostly to the party faithful and the bobble-heads. I don't think of Cheney as a "big gun" - more like an annoying little yap dog.

Now, personally, it doesn't suprise me that Torone is critical of a multiparty system.

Who said I was against a multi-party system? You friggin' Dems are so damned arrogant, you think that there are only 2 parties-the one that's in power and the one you think should be. I call that pretty damned arrogant. Ever hear of the Libertarian Party?

As for blowing over, you mean like the incident captured in CA the other day? The one not mentioned on this board because (most likely) no one but Libs knew about it? That one, if widely publicized, would mean the end of the Dems. Fact is, this '16 words' thing and that one are, together, a prime example of the Liberal media in action.

[PornoDoggy]

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about when you refer to "the incident captured in California the other day." However, I am not in the paranoic/facist information loop, so I don't learn all the obscure facts that you do - nor to I have the proper mindset, or a pretuned AM radio station to enable me to understand "what they really mean."

I believe that you and yours have been predicting "the end of the dems" as long as you've been calling anyone to the left of Himmler a communist, so that is a completely meaningless statement.

I am aware of the Libertarian party. They are mildly amusing. However, they are no more relevant to real discussions of politics than the Greens - and after the last election, probably less.

Lastly, with reference to arrogance - you and yours aren't capable of arguing that those who hold views opposing yours are merely wrong. You have to go to great lengths to fantasize about vast conspiracies and diabolical intent. You and yours believe, Acacia style, that you have a patent on patriotism, and that anyone who doesn't buy your view is either a fool or a traitor.

So you talking to me about the arrogance of liberals is a little like being lectured on tolerance by Goering.

[Almighty Colin]

Originally posted by Torone@Jul 25 2003, 08:47 AM
I call that pretty damned arrogant. Ever hear of the Libertarian Party?

It's not arrogant, it's reality! I'd LOVE to vote libertarian but that would be a completely wasted vote. The fact of the matter is that there is not a person alive today to remember a non-Republican or non-Democratic president.

[Torone]

Originally posted by Colin+Jul 26 2003, 03:56 AM-->