Frenchies think they were had by Chirac

Winetalk.com · 04-10-2003

'King without crown'

BBC correspondent Emma Jane Kirby, in Paris, says that many French people, who believed this was an illegal and hot-headed war, have been stunned by the welcome American forces received in Baghdad on Wednesday.

The French newspaper, Liberation, has warned that President Chirac is now threatened with isolation on the international stage.

He has become, says the paper, the king of peace without a crown.

Our correspondent says France fears the US will cut it out of contracts for the reconstruction of Iraq for failing to back the coalition.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2935149.stm

04-10-2003

there were quite a few stories in the Arab press about people in Arab countries being in complete dismay when they saw what happened too after being led to believe that their "Islamic brothers were being invaded by imperialists"

Alex must be very upset by now.

Winetalk.com · 04-10-2003

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Originally posted by -= JR =-@Apr 10 2003, 07:29 AM
there were quite a few stories in the Arab press about people in Arab countries being in complete dismay when they saw what happened too after being led to believe that their "Islamic brothers were being invaded by imperialists"

Alex must be very upset by now.

JR,
he is not...

some people are just too stupid to know that they are stupid.

XXXManager · 04-10-2003

I say....
FUCK THE MOTHER FUCKER!
Its amazing how low-life zero-dignity snake SOB petty-thief can a person be.
And now they are saying they "as a democracy" are happy to see the regime go? FUCK THE MOTHER FUCKERS!
When Dominique DeVillepen was asked if he wants US to win the war - he didn't answer

FUCK HIM!
AND PUTIN
AND the German government.

Fuck them

Almighty Colin · 04-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 10 2003, 06:42 AM
BBC correspondent Emma Jane Kirby, in Paris, says that many French people, who believed this was an illegal and hot-headed war, have been stunned by the welcome American forces received in Baghdad on Wednesday.

I can only imagine what will happen once the majority of Baghdadians feel like it is safe to go outside.

Almighty Colin · 04-10-2003

I have an idea. Russia and France can join the coalition to build a new Iraq if they split our $70 billion war cost + British and Australian costs .. OR .. let them off easy and we create an amendment regarding nonproliferation "at all costs" into the UN charter as fair trade.

Diplomacy sometimes requires sacrifice.

Torone · 04-10-2003

If America stands firm, I think we'll soon see a change in leadership in France and Germany...

Almighty Colin · 04-10-2003

Pictures of liberation are very powerful.

I know from reading GFY that there were a lot of people in the world that thought Saddam wasn't as bad as the US claims. Funny, huh?

Last edited by Colin at Apr 10 2003, 08:40 AM

XXXManager · 04-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Apr 10 2003, 04:42 AM
...
Diplomacy sometimes requires sacrifice.

True - France, Russia and Germany has chosen a course in their diplomatic level - and now its time for their sacrifice. Its time for them to pay the results of their choices - they should be kept out of the process untill the people of those countries realize how cynical and sinister their governments were and kick the mother fuckers out. Those countries should go RADICAL changes on political and psychological levels.
By RADICAL I mean EXTREMELY RADICAL.

Torone · 04-11-2003

I think it's rather ironic that two countries who are living proof AGAINST the 'American Imperialism' BS are now on the opposite side from us in this...(I still want a 'finger' smilie)

04-11-2003

bush missed a great chance during the developement of the coalition.

when france and germany declared that they were not in support, their war repairation debts should have become immediately due.
we should have frozen their assests, sent their dipolmats home and left them to deal with each other again.

how soon they forget

Winetalk.com · 04-11-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by magus@Apr 11 2003, 08:19 AM
bush missed a great chance during the developement of the coalition.

when france and germany declared that they were not in support, their war repairation debts should have become immediately due.
we should have frozen their assests, sent their dipolmats home and left them to deal with each other again.

how soon they forget

magus,
this is a BRILLIANY plan wiht only ONE drawback....
they don't owe us anything
;-)))

Mike AI · 04-11-2003

Colin, I saw Sen. McCain last night on TV, he said that if France and Russia really want to help, they can forgive Iraq the 100+ Billion $$ debt. I thought it was a great idea.

If they want be involved with the "rebuilding" they should come in with clean hands.... I really think that the US is going to push for some type of international "bankrupcy" where the new Iraq will settle for 5 cents on the dollar of debt.

No way Russia, France should benefit for their shady deals with Saddam, while at same time working against us.

It is a good article, I hope this become the tetonic shakeup in the region that it could possibly be... that is overly optimistic, but it would be great!

OldJeff · 04-11-2003

Fuck Them....With Serges splintered broomstick.

Just a random thought on the subject of cheering

It is more than obvious the Iraqi's are over joyed at seeing Saddam out of power, but are they cheering us as liberators, or are they cheering out of fear.

Remember for as long as many of them have been alive - NOT supporting the people in power would result in death, tourture, and even worse.

Also remember that for most of their lives they have been force fed that the US is the great Satan. (A little bit like American Students are by the NEA)

Do they cheer in Joy or in Fear ? It will probably be many years before we know for sure.

04-11-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 11 2003, 09:02 AM
Colin, I saw Sen. McCain last night on TV, he said that if France and Russia really want to help, they can forgive Iraq the 100+ Billion $$ debt. I thought it was a great idea.

i thought that was a great idea too, until Russia announced it was a good idea that the USA forgive all Soviet Era debt.

Mike AI · 04-11-2003

HAHA point JR. Though I wonder how much debt the former USSR really owed the United States? I do not think we were too eager to loan them money back when they were the "Evil Empire" and we were spending them into the ground with an arms race.

Now the trillions we have loaned to Russia is another story. But I think Russia is still around.... and a "democracy" right?

Winetalk.com · 04-11-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 11 2003, 09:36 AM
HAHA point JR. Though I wonder how much debt the former USSR really owed the United States? I do not think we were too eager to loan them money back when they were the "Evil Empire" and we were spending them into the ground with an arms race.

Now the trillions we have loaned to Russia is another story. But I think Russia is still around.... and a "democracy" right?

I have bonds of Russian Federation in my porfolio
;-)))

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Winetalk.com Prostate Examiner I quoff fine wine at corkd.com Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: good 'ole USA Posts: 21,018	'King without crown' BBC correspondent Emma Jane Kirby, in Paris, says that many French people, who believed this was an illegal and hot-headed war, have been stunned by the welcome American forces received in Baghdad on Wednesday. The French newspaper, Liberation, has warned that President Chirac is now threatened with isolation on the international stage. He has become, says the paper, the king of peace without a crown. Our correspondent says France fears the US will cut it out of contracts for the reconstruction of Iraq for failing to back the coalition. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2935149.stm __________________ why dogs sniff each other butts?

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XXXManager Members Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 144	I say.... FUCK THE MOTHER FUCKER! Its amazing how low-life zero-dignity snake SOB petty-thief can a person be. And now they are saying they "as a democracy" are happy to see the regime go? FUCK THE MOTHER FUCKERS! When Dominique DeVillepen was asked if he wants US to win the war - he didn't answer FUCK HIM! AND PUTIN AND the German government. Fuck them __________________ View & search ALL threads from ALL boards - Inc' sexy Oprano Get alerts by Email or ICQ about threads you are interested in. *Today's impossible is tomorrow's convention.*

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Almighty Colin Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,059	I have an idea. Russia and France can join the coalition to build a new Iraq if they split our $70 billion war cost + British and Australian costs .. OR .. let them off easy and we create an amendment regarding nonproliferation "at all costs" into the UN charter as fair trade. Diplomacy sometimes requires sacrifice. __________________ Almighty Content. Your one stop for live content. Secret Friends, LATINA Secret Friends , My Cam Friends

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Torone Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,137	If America stands firm, I think we'll soon see a change in leadership in France and Germany... __________________ Why me? Why always me?

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Almighty Colin Members Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,059	Pictures of liberation are very powerful. I know from reading GFY that there were a lot of people in the world that thought Saddam wasn't as bad as the US claims. Funny, huh? Last edited by Colin at Apr 10 2003, 08:40 AM __________________ Almighty Content. Your one stop for live content. Secret Friends, LATINA Secret Friends , My Cam Friends

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-= JR =- Guest Posts: n/a	there were quite a few stories in the Arab press about people in Arab countries being in complete dismay when they saw what happened too after being led to believe that their "Islamic brothers were being invaded by imperialists" Alex must be very upset by now.

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Torone Members Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,137	I think it's rather ironic that two countries who are living proof AGAINST the 'American Imperialism' BS are now on the opposite side from us in this...(I still want a 'finger' smilie) __________________ Why me? Why always me?

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magus Guest Posts: n/a	bush missed a great chance during the developement of the coalition. when france and germany declared that they were not in support, their war repairation debts should have become immediately due. we should have frozen their assests, sent their dipolmats home and left them to deal with each other again. how soon they forget

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Mike AI Administrator Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11,618	Colin, I saw Sen. McCain last night on TV, he said that if France and Russia really want to help, they can forgive Iraq the 100+ Billion $$ debt. I thought it was a great idea. If they want be involved with the "rebuilding" they should come in with clean hands.... I really think that the US is going to push for some type of international "bankrupcy" where the new Iraq will settle for 5 cents on the dollar of debt. No way Russia, France should benefit for their shady deals with Saddam, while at same time working against us. It is a good article, I hope this become the tetonic shakeup in the region that it could possibly be... that is overly optimistic, but it would be great! __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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OldJeff Cantankerous Loony Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 468	Fuck Them....With Serges splintered broomstick. Just a random thought on the subject of cheering It is more than obvious the Iraqi's are over joyed at seeing Saddam out of power, but are they cheering us as liberators, or are they cheering out of fear. Remember for as long as many of them have been alive - NOT supporting the people in power would result in death, tourture, and even worse. Also remember that for most of their lives they have been force fed that the US is the great Satan. (A little bit like American Students are by the NEA) Do they cheer in Joy or in Fear ? It will probably be many years before we know for sure.