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Old 06-25-2010   #1
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Default .xxx tld has been voted down

ICANN passes the buck again and pushes it off to the legal team to kill it off.
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Default Re: .xxx tld has been voted down

Some other media outlets are saying the Icann legal counsel will approve this TLD.

Thats not the impression I was getting as i watched it live.

For now its still dead unless the legal advisors decide to recommend its acceptance.
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Interesting. ICM seems to be celebrating approval.
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Interesting. ICM seems to be celebrating approval.
Word on the street is that the legal counsel is likely to approve it.
10000 domains are preregistered which I didnt know this morning while watching.

Word is they are taking that as a vote of confirmation from the industry.
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Word is they are taking that as a vote of confirmation from the industry.
I think that is just spin, to get them a way to save some face. They're really just avoiding an expensive damages lawsuit by ICM, which they'd likely lose due to the arbitors prior decision.

As I posted on another forum yesterday, this was pretty much a forgone conclusion once the arbitor ruled last year.

The fight now shifts to keeping governments from trying to make in mandatory for adult content.
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Default Re: .xxx tld has been voted down

MSNBC just reported that it's gonna happen.
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BTW- their report implied that the .xxx would REPLACE current domains for porn. "Instead of .com, .net ,etc you'll have .xxx"

Personally don't see how that is feasible but that doesn';t mean they wouldn't try to do it...
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I wonder if the FSC is going to do something useful and try to legally stop it.
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BTW- their report implied that the .xxx would REPLACE current domains for porn. "Instead of .com, .net ,etc you'll have .xxx"

Personally don't see how that is feasible but that doesn';t mean they wouldn't try to do it...
If they make it law it could happen you know they will be lobbying for that hard and all the righties will be also. Then he can charge $1000 a domain if he wants.
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Old 06-26-2010   #10
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icann.[remove]org/en/news/releases/release-25jun10-en.pdf

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The ICANN board also voted to allow the application for the controversial .XXX top-level domain (TLD) to move forward. The ICM registry applied for the .XXX sponsored top-level domain as a potential community site for the adult entertainment industry. The Board approved a detailed set of next steps for the application, including expedited due diligence, negotiations on a draft registry agreement, and consultation with ICANN's Governmental Advisory Committee.

The decision in effect agreed with a non-binding majority decision of the Independent Review Panel. In February two of the three members of the IRP said the board should reconsider its 2007 decision to reject ICM’s sTLD application.

ICANN Chairman Peter Dengate Thrush said, “The board reached a carefully considered decision, paying close attention to the findings of the Independent Review Panel, and to the extensive public comment on our proposed action."
“Today’s decision is a validation of ICANN’s transparency and accountability,” said Rod Beckstrom, President and Chief Executive Officer.

The board asked the ICANN staff to conduct an expedited review of the ICM application to ensure that it is still current and that there have been no changes that might alter the validity of the application. The board decision also allows consultation on the top-level domain with ICANN’s Governmental Advisory Committee.
The next ICANN meeting will take place in Cartagena, Colombia, 5-10 December 2010.
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http://www.xbiz.com/news/122164
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Thanks for the link Gonzo... for a minute I was getting worried that they might be successful and then we would have to change all those links out there to .xxx. it would cause a massive disruption in the biz.

I am glad that the FSC is confident this shit will fail again
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It ain't over yet.
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it's been going on for so long now man it seems like it will never end. I just hope that the FSC is right and it will not go into effect this go round either
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Old 08-04-2010   #15
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Hi guys,

I think I have good news for some of you and bad news for others. Personally I'm not effected because I haven't opened my adult site yet but many of you will feel the effect of what happened.

It seems that after many retries ICANN finally said yes to the new domain extension and registering .xxx domain is now available. I don't know the price of the .xxx domain and I don't think I'm interested in it because a .com is way better than .xxx, a non-widely used domain.

I don't think any of you should change the link structure of the site because it would certainly affect your search engine ranking.

If you still don't believe check out this article news.cnet.com / 8301-1023_3-20008838-93.html to check.
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MSNBC just reported that it's gonna happen.
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Default Re: .xxx tld has been voted down

I suspect that even if it is approved, one or more of the smart lawyers will move to enjoin them from opening, citing various risks including damage to free speech (filtering). All they would need is one ISP to say they would filter .xxx traffic, and they lawsuit is pretty much pre-made.
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They will never pass that law.
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goes to prove money can buy you anything...
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There's this...

And if you didn't get your affiliate letter from us:
Dear Affiliate,

A serious issue of concern has been brought to our attention which could have a significant negative impact on your business and ours. We feel that this issue is important enough to contact you and ask your assistance in this matter. From all of us at AEBN, we sincerely thank you for your consideration of this matter and your support of our attempts to fight the .xxx sTLD.

The Issue: Proposed .XXX sTLD
ICM Registry has applied for and upon denial has now petitioned ICANN (International Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) for a "sponsored" Top-Level Domain (sTLD). This sTLD would be adult industry business only as opposed to a "general" Top Level Domain (gTLD) which anyone can obtain. This may seem attractive at first, BUT there are a number of reasons this could be harmful to our industry.

First, if a business doesn't purchase the .XXX counterpart to their .com domain names they run the risk of losing traffic and facing brand confusion or domain squatters. Sixty dollars per year is not a big deal if a business wants to protect one domain name, but for those who own multiple domain names and operate multiple sites this is extremely costly. Another expense would be the cost of defending your domain name should someone else purchase it or having to pay a premium to a domain squatter. Second, the Free Speech Coalition has informed us that a bill has already been written by the United States Congress anticipating the approval of the .XXX sTLD and was to be introduced at the federal level mandating that adult businesses be relegated to ONLY a .XXX sTLD. Without a .XXX sTLD the US Government has no way to regulate the commercial speech of the adult entertainment industry in the internet. With a .XXX sTLD the US Government can effectively regulate the speech by using 'internet zoning' laws similar to the ones used to drive brick and mortar adult bookstores out of business. Granted, it would have been a long process before it made it to law (if ever), however, it is a compelling example of the significant potential for censorship with a .XXX sTLD.

Another difference between a sponsored TLD and a general TLD is that a sponsored TLD is accompanied by a policy-making entity. In the case of .XXX the policy making entity is IFFOR (International Foundation for Online Responsibility) and its very name insinuates the adult entertainment industry is irresponsible. The board of IFFOR will be selected by a nominating committee put in place by ICM, the entity that is petitioning for the sTLD. ICM is run by Stuart Lawley, a person without any ties to, or knowledge of, the adult industry. Many adult industry folks may remember Stuart from an XBiz conference 3 years ago where he looked down at the audience of adult industry professionals and proudly stated that he was NOT part of the adult entertainment industry. Moreover, Lawley has stated that he will use this TLD to clean up some of the business practices of our dirty little industry. Lawley knows nothing about the industry or the people in it yet, he will oversee the selection of a board to develop policy and regulate the .XXX sTLD. He could easily obtain a gTLD, but is only interested in the sTLD complete with his policy making entity.

In order to qualify for the.XXX sTLD, Mr Lawley has to have broad-based support from the sponsorship community which is the adult entertainment industry. We do not believe he has that support, yet he is telling ICANN that he does. ICANN is trying to determine how to proceed and has put the process up for public comment. It is imperative that the adult community tell ICANN that we do not support ICM's .XXX sTLD.

How you can help
AEBN is asking all of its affiliates to submit a public comment. It is extremely easy and should take less than 2 minutes. Please follow the instructions below and submit your comment. The comment period closes May 10th so please submit your comment today.

Thanks for your help!

Sincerely,

Jerry Anders on behalf of the entire AEBN Team


Help AEBN defeat ICM's petition for a .XXX sTLD!

Here's what you can do to help:

Go to: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comme...options-report
Click on "Add a comment" in the bottom left of the screen (this should take you to an email with the recipient filled in, but if it does not, the email address is icm-options-report@icann.org).
Write "Choose option # 3" or "Deny .XXX sTLD" or something similar in the subject line.
Cut and paste the Email Text below into the body of the email.
If you are comfortable, sign your name and company name for added emphasis.
Click "send" and pat yourself on the back for being part of a dynamic group working to defeat ICM's .XXX sTLD.
Send this information to other industry professionals; we need everyone's help!
Email Text:

As an affiliate program for the adult entertainment industry, my business' foundation is internet based. If ICM's application were granted and a .XXX sTLD were to be created it would negatively impact my business. Also it would put ICANN in the position of creating an entity to impose regulations and policy for the adult entertainment community-a situation that could easily stifle what is now a robust adult entertainment internet presence.

I do not support the creation of a .XXX sTLD and believe that the ICANN Board was well within its rights to deny ICM's application in the 2007 Board meeting in Lisbon.

It is imperative that ICANN consider the widespread opposition from the adult entertainment community to a .XXX sTLD as it makes its decision. For that reason, I support Option # 3 of the March 26, 2010 process options submitted by ICANN for public comment.

If you wish to elaborate:

Feel free to elaborate, if you like. Please be reasonably courteous and businesslike, as this is an international policy forum.

For questions or for more information you may contact Diane Duke at: diane@freespeechcoaltion.com and tell her you are an AEBN affiliate. She would be happy to provide more information about this very serious issue.

Thank you!
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Old 08-10-2010   #21
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Sent a letter of oppostion.
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I have a better idea...instead of being to fucking lazy to put it in your own words....PUT IT IN YOUR OWN WORDS!

Form letters get ignored and they make it look like you are too fucking stupid or too fucking lazy to care enough to do it yourself

OK Off my soap box.
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I have a better idea...instead of being to fucking lazy to put it in your own words....PUT IT IN YOUR OWN WORDS!

Form letters get ignored and they make it look like you are too fucking stupid or too fucking lazy to care enough to do it yourself

OK Off my soap box.

Sorry you feel that way. I'm here to do my job, and part of that job is representing the company standpoint. I, of course, welcome you to contact me off-board if that is problematic for you.

But thank you for the kind words. If you genuinely think I am stupid and lazy, I'm glad to know it. Helps me strive to do more and keeps me motivated.
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