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01-28-2008 | #1 |
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Good business model or failed concept?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...out/article.do
Qtrax. "free music supported by ads". I have to ask the question: If everything in the world was free supported by ads, who would be buying the advertising?
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Re: Good business model or failed concept?
Qtrax Has Rough Start As Major Labels Deny Deals With Free Download Service
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Re: Good business model or failed concept?
Not really, because radio has something that download services don't have: your attention every time you want to listen. Unless you are recording off the air, you are pretty much bound to tune in and listen. Basically they are talking about front loading a bunch of ads before (and possibly during) the download process, and then after that you are free to go and listen all you want forever without restriction.
My feeling is that this would have a huge startup volume of business, followed by a slow but steady decline as people download all the free back catalog they want and then drop out of the game. So the business model might be sell the business to some other suckers early for billions of dollars, before it turns into a pumpkin.
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Yea....but as you say......I'm thinking that's what would happen.
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Re: Good business model or failed concept?
Yup, it's on. Licensing is always an issue, but if they can raise enough dollars in ad sales to pay the piper, the labels will fall in with it as an income source. But that also points out there sheer size of the problem. From a 99 cent Itunes download, the labels are seeing, what, 40 cents? So each download on this service needs to generate at least 40 cents just to break even on raw material costs. That will mean tons of pages, multiple clicks to get the to the product, probably a zango style toolbar install and every other ugly trick in the book to make the money happen.
I could also see the record labels demanding upfront payment or some sort of set aside account with money to fund this sort of thing. The record labels are always afraid of free.
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I hope this upstart looked at some of the front loading issues with ads that Live365.com had. People hate ads but wont pay to get around them...they just listen to something else that is for free.
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Re: Good business model or failed concept?
I bet someone will find the way how to 'cut' such ads from music files
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No...we gave you the soap on a rope microphone.....
But you just go ahead.......as long as you don't drop the soap, you'll be OK.
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Seriously... coming up with that much money per download ain't easy. This is a business plan I would really love to read.
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Re: Good business model or failed concept?
I dont get it.
We say people wont pay to get around ads, blah blah blah... There's pretty good emperical evidence that people will pay to get what they want. How many of you dont have cable tv? There's free stuff still out there, just hang an aerial in the air, ad powered network tv is still there. And you can even get HD. How many of you have satellite radio? I know I do, and will never buy another car that doesn't have it. Even though I have at least 30 or so broadcast stations to choose from where I'm at. |
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Would you have paid to hear my lame ass ad free when I was talking smack on live365? Or listen to Headless cackle and call JimTheFiend up at his McDonalds or Capt D's day time job? live365 for the most part had LAME programming.
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