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Old 03-08-2007   #1
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Default 720gb of raw internal power!!!!!!!!!

Just upgraded again, I finally am about to have a computer I am proud of

AMD Athlon x2 4600 Dual Core
3gb Corsair Dual Channel RAM
500gb Internal Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm IDE
220gb Internal WD Caviar 7200rpm IDE
ATI Sapphire Radeon x600 XT 128mb Video Card
Memorex Dual Layer 16x DVD Burner
Samsung Lightscribe 16x DVD Burner

From where it stands now I can do just about anything...I am going to bump that 22gb drive up to a 500gb next week and make the 220gb an external backup

next stop, next year, dual processors
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Just upgraded again, I finally am about to have a computer I am proud of

AMD Athlon x2 4600 Dual Core
3gb Corsair Dual Channel RAM
500gb Internal Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm IDE
220gb Internal WD Caviar 7200rpm IDE
ATI Sapphire Radeon x600 XT 128mb Video Card
Memorex Dual Layer 16x DVD Burner
Samsung Lightscribe 16x DVD Burner

From where it stands now I can do just about anything...I am going to bump that 22gb drive up to a 500gb next week and make the 220gb an external backup

next stop, next year, dual processors
What?

No Raptor for main drive?

No crossfire or SLI for video?
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What?

No Raptor for main drive?

No crossfire or SLI for video?
if I played games I would probably care more about the video

as for Raptor, I am moving all hard drives to Seagate....I have had 5 western digitals fail, including a Raptor....they SUCK for dump drives

this one seagate I have has a 5 year warranty on it with UNLIMITED tech support forever, the WD had a 30 day parts and labor and 1 year tech support..LOL
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if I played games I would probably care more about the video

as for Raptor, I am moving all hard drives to Seagate....I have had 5 western digitals fail, including a Raptor....they SUCK for dump drives

this one seagate I have has a 5 year warranty on it with UNLIMITED tech support forever, the WD had a 30 day parts and labor and 1 year tech support..LOL
Hard drives are a commodity at this point. I do prefer raptor for my main drive on any high performance machine. Fast as hell, and I've never had a problem. Beyond that, I dont care.

For video, I'm hoping you mean X1600 and not X600. X1K family will vet ATI's avivo or whatever they call it. I LOVE how fast that thing can render and convert videos.
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Hard drives are a commodity at this point. I do prefer raptor for my main drive on any high performance machine. Fast as hell, and I've never had a problem. Beyond that, I dont care.

For video, I'm hoping you mean X1600 and not X600. X1K family will vet ATI's avivo or whatever they call it. I LOVE how fast that thing can render and convert videos.
actually, I meant the x600 http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonx600/specs.html I didn't upgrade that just cause mainly the graphics card doesn't play much part in how fast a video is rendered or encoded, processor in your main key there

if I was doing a lot of regular or 3d transitions, the video card might play some part in it, but since I am just encoding it doesn't help very much
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actually, I meant the x600 http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonx600/specs.html I didn't upgrade that just cause mainly the graphics card doesn't play much part in how fast a video is rendered or encoded, processor in your main key there

if I was doing a lot of regular or 3d transitions, the video card might play some part in it, but since I am just encoding it doesn't help very much
Bzzzzzzttt... you're wrong here. Normally, you're right the impact of video card is minimal on rendering, but that's the beauty of Avivo. It makes your rendering SMOKE!

I haven't benched it lately on new hardware, but when we got our first ones last year for our video rendering machines, we ONLY replaced the video cards. We dropped in Sapphire X1800's and first video I did out of the gate took 87 minutes to render without the X1800. After installing it, exact same video rendered in 18 minutes.

http://www.chip.de/artikel/c1_artikel_17670022.html


And yes, it also kicks major ass for games.

And if you want more speed....drop two of 'em in and use Cross Fire.
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Hard drives are a commodity at this point. I do prefer raptor for my main drive on any high performance machine. Fast as hell, and I've never had a problem. Beyond that, I dont care.
man, I have a stack of western digitals sitting next to me, they make nice paper weights these days

I have to mention though, I am encoding video and working the drive 24/7, approx 70 videos a month right now
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man, I have a stack of western digitals sitting next to me, they make nice paper weights these days

I have to mention though, I am encoding video and working the drive 24/7, approx 70 videos a month right now
Hey man, can u build a mini server that will run just live steam digital cams to different hard drives at once with multiple programs for streaming live to the internet, but still be able to run same program to a regular pc maintaining the same log-in code thru some sort of network? and how much does something like this will cost?


oh ya, and done with multiple ip addies, no sharing them
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Just upgraded again, I finally am about to have a computer I am proud of

AMD Athlon x2 4600 Dual Core
3gb Corsair Dual Channel RAM
500gb Internal Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm IDE
220gb Internal WD Caviar 7200rpm IDE
ATI Sapphire Radeon x600 XT 128mb Video Card
Memorex Dual Layer 16x DVD Burner
Samsung Lightscribe 16x DVD Burner

From where it stands now I can do just about anything...I am going to bump that 22gb drive up to a 500gb next week and make the 220gb an external backup

next stop, next year, dual processors
With 750G hard drives costing much less then people make in a day why don't more people double up all hard drives and make back ups? RAID is nice but it's slow so every night I have Retrospect copy all of my working drives to my backup drives. A few Terabytes are safe and protected.
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pretty nice but i would suggest go with 10k rpm sata drives you will be amazed of how much your computer changes.

AMD well not to happy with it. i will stick to intel.

video cards i agree you should have gone with the SLI technology it will improve your overall speed remember you are still doing a lot of stuff with your processor SLI technology will take away a bit of burden.

memory.

niiice bue i would have just gotten 2 gb and use the rest of the $$$ (not much) for the 10k rpm harddrives.



good luck with it. i guess you are ready for vista
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pretty nice but i would suggest go with 10k rpm sata drives you will be amazed of how much your computer changes.

AMD well not to happy with it. i will stick to intel.

video cards i agree you should have gone with the SLI technology it will improve your overall speed remember you are still doing a lot of stuff with your processor SLI technology will take away a bit of burden.

memory.

niiice bue i would have just gotten 2 gb and use the rest of the $$$ (not much) for the 10k rpm harddrives.



good luck with it. i guess you are ready for vista
I actually got a sata and didn't notice enough of a speed increase so I took it back.....the increase was so minimal it was not worth the extra effort to make it work right with a sata/ide combo

I love AMD, too bad they are going under, I will hate to have to move to Intel
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I actually got a sata and didn't notice enough of a speed increase so I took it back.....the increase was so minimal it was not worth the extra effort to make it work right with a sata/ide combo

I love AMD, too bad they are going under, I will hate to have to move to Intel
dude your board doesn't support sata drives??? there is no special configuration man.

you did not notice difference because you made no difference a 7200 rpm sata drive performs better than IDE but it is only noticeable during big disk writes like rendering on photoshop.

but a 10k rpm drive is like having scsi well some will say it is faster than scsi.

i did away with ide all together just having a slave drive on the same ide cable slows everything down.
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dude your board doesn't support sata drives??? there is no special configuration man.

you did not notice difference because you made no difference a 7200 rpm sata drive performs better than IDE but it is only noticeable during big disk writes like rendering on photoshop.

but a 10k rpm drive is like having scsi well some will say it is faster than scsi.

i did away with ide all together just having a slave drive on the same ide cable slows everything down.
I did a lot of reading on this, plus trying it personally, and you can't have an IDE master with a sata slave in winxp

your bios will recognize it, but that is about it....i tried for 4 hours the other night

once I hooked up the sata as a slave and encoded one 50minute avi, I noticed maybe a 5 minute difference in encoding time, not enough to get me all wet in the pants over sata

I am not the only one noticing this either, if you check out many encoding forums everyone is noticing the same thing....the ide is rated at 133/MBps and the sata was rated at 150MBps...woopity doo, again, not worth the hassle of switching drives all around

and no, my board doesn't support sata 2.0, and I am fine with that
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dude your board doesn't support sata drives??? there is no special configuration man.

you did not notice difference because you made no difference a 7200 rpm sata drive performs better than IDE but it is only noticeable during big disk writes like rendering on photoshop.

but a 10k rpm drive is like having scsi well some will say it is faster than scsi.

i did away with ide all together just having a slave drive on the same ide cable slows everything down.
I already poked at him for not buying a Raptor (my favorite 10K drive), and he aint having it.
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With 750G hard drives costing much less then people make in a day why don't more people double up all hard drives and make back ups? RAID is nice but it's slow so every night I have Retrospect copy all of my working drives to my backup drives. A few Terabytes are safe and protected.
I really don't need all that to be honest...I encode and back up on dual layer dvd
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