AlienQ, step inside....

Jace · 06-07-2006

All right Alien, allthough the original post got moved and no one will see it I will respond here with my views.

I do not, nor have I ever, owed anyone money in this biz, and I like to think I am a somebody. I didn't think many people knew who I was or paid attention to me until this past weekend when I visited the Redneck Getaway, my opinion has changed. More people knew who I was and were anxious to meet me than anywhere I have been in my life, it felt very nice inside, it almost gave me warm fuzzies.

If I can't pay for something I don't get it, I never ask for work up front, period, and the only time I did have hard times and I owed someone, I had a friend take of it for me because I don't like to be in that situation, the friend was paid off within a week.....I do still owe Gonzo $15, but it wasn't that great of a blowjob anyway

I am somebody in this biz and I don't, nor have I ever, owed someone money for any worthwhile amount of time.

Buying advertisements is bullshit when it comes to boards anymore, but only when you are a mom and pop operation, like we are. If you are a huge company and want extreme branding, buying advertisement on boards can be really effective....but for us smaller operations, you are right, it is not worth it, being a board presence is far more worth it than any bought advertising can get

When you are promoting your shit you have a scary mentality that comes with it, and while you are doing well and have a nice amount of clients, there comes a time to ask yourself if you want to be huge, or if you want to stay in that middle class of businessman, I personally never want to stay in that middle class, I want to achieve great things....and I just don't get that impression from you. If I am wrong I am sorry, but that just the impression I get.

The sig views thing is dying out, even as recent as 6 months ago I could jump on a board and get into a pissing match and score 3-4 affiliates over a few days through nscash.com, but times have changed drastically in the past 6 months, worthwhile people in this biz aren't that easy to snatch up anymore, and the "posting for drama" attitude is dying, and very quickly.

I never see you attack someone first, you are right, but it doesn't take much to get you on the offensive, in fact it barely takes anything at all. What I would call a ironic joke or fun poke you call a brutal attack worthy of damage, and that is just plain wrong.

We had a long talk this past weekend at Redneck Getaway about p1mpdogg and his little attitude on the boards, and while it was fun at first and everyone loved it, it is now obviously hurting his business...even his employees have to apologize to people and try and get them to stay with epic.

Alien, you have lost business because of your attitude...I know you may not understand that or what to believe it, but it is true. I know a few people in this biz who are genuinely nice people with deep pockets that have mentioned that they would have loved to work with you, but didn't because they were put off by your attitude on the boards.

I am one of those people (aside from the deep pockets)

I am a great person and I am very loyal to my working mates, and I absolutely love your work, I think you have a great eye for style and design, but so do MANY people in this biz. You were one of the first I thought about when I decided to get my wifes site redone again, but unfortunately when I jumped on the boards and looked for you that week I saw a barrage of insanity and negativity, and I am 100% against working with anyone that has a negative attitude in any aspects of their life...call me hippie, but I am all about the energy that people put out....what you put out, you get back

To conclude, I just think if you were to just be yourself on the boards and stop with this intentional bashing of others I think you could be a very rich man and never have to owe another person in your life.....I have talked to you on icq man, you aren't the person I see on the boards, that is NOT you and you know it.....we are all crazy in our own ways man, hell I am a nutjob anarchist, but I also follow one rule as I live my life, don't hurt others, and while you may think it is a forum "persona" or "character", that is all you are doing in the long run, is hurting others and yourself.

06-07-2006	#1
Jace .... $100 for every ImLive sign-up Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,392 Blog Entries: 1	AlienQ, step inside.... All right Alien, allthough the original post got moved and no one will see it I will respond here with my views. I do not, nor have I ever, owed anyone money in this biz, and I like to think I am a somebody. I didn't think many people knew who I was or paid attention to me until this past weekend when I visited the Redneck Getaway, my opinion has changed. More people knew who I was and were anxious to meet me than anywhere I have been in my life, it felt very nice inside, it almost gave me warm fuzzies. If I can't pay for something I don't get it, I never ask for work up front, period, and the only time I did have hard times and I owed someone, I had a friend take of it for me because I don't like to be in that situation, the friend was paid off within a week.....I do still owe Gonzo $15, but it wasn't that great of a blowjob anyway I am somebody in this biz and I don't, nor have I ever, owed someone money for any worthwhile amount of time. Buying advertisements is bullshit when it comes to boards anymore, but only when you are a mom and pop operation, like we are. If you are a huge company and want extreme branding, buying advertisement on boards can be really effective....but for us smaller operations, you are right, it is not worth it, being a board presence is far more worth it than any bought advertising can get When you are promoting your shit you have a scary mentality that comes with it, and while you are doing well and have a nice amount of clients, there comes a time to ask yourself if you want to be huge, or if you want to stay in that middle class of businessman, I personally never want to stay in that middle class, I want to achieve great things....and I just don't get that impression from you. If I am wrong I am sorry, but that just the impression I get. The sig views thing is dying out, even as recent as 6 months ago I could jump on a board and get into a pissing match and score 3-4 affiliates over a few days through nscash.com, but times have changed drastically in the past 6 months, worthwhile people in this biz aren't that easy to snatch up anymore, and the "posting for drama" attitude is dying, and very quickly. I never see you attack someone first, you are right, but it doesn't take much to get you on the offensive, in fact it barely takes anything at all. What I would call a ironic joke or fun poke you call a brutal attack worthy of damage, and that is just plain wrong. We had a long talk this past weekend at Redneck Getaway about p1mpdogg and his little attitude on the boards, and while it was fun at first and everyone loved it, it is now obviously hurting his business...even his employees have to apologize to people and try and get them to stay with epic. Alien, you have lost business because of your attitude...I know you may not understand that or what to believe it, but it is true. I know a few people in this biz who are genuinely nice people with deep pockets that have mentioned that they would have loved to work with you, but didn't because they were put off by your attitude on the boards. I am one of those people (aside from the deep pockets) I am a great person and I am very loyal to my working mates, and I absolutely love your work, I think you have a great eye for style and design, but so do MANY people in this biz. You were one of the first I thought about when I decided to get my wifes site redone again, but unfortunately when I jumped on the boards and looked for you that week I saw a barrage of insanity and negativity, and I am 100% against working with anyone that has a negative attitude in any aspects of their life...call me hippie, but I am all about the energy that people put out....what you put out, you get back To conclude, I just think if you were to just be yourself on the boards and stop with this intentional bashing of others I think you could be a very rich man and never have to owe another person in your life.....I have talked to you on icq man, you aren't the person I see on the boards, that is NOT you and you know it.....we are all crazy in our own ways man, hell I am a nutjob anarchist, but I also follow one rule as I live my life, don't hurt others, and while you may think it is a forum "persona" or "character", that is all you are doing in the long run, is hurting others and yourself.