Afganistan new home for Democrats

[Mike AI]

Give it to the Afgani's they learn "demeocracy" from the crybabies at the DNC.

I wonder if Al Gore and Jimmy Carter are out there.




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134938,00.html

Chad's tumbprints - its all the same.

[sarettah]

They should have used sharpies

[PornoDoggy]

If there are Democrats there, I'm sure they can be dealt with very effectively by Afghan President Karzid's new aides - Jim Baker and Kathleen Harris.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 9 2004, 10:59 PM
If there are Democrats there, I'm sure they can be dealt with very effectively by Afghan President Karzid's new aides - Jim Baker and Kathleen Harris.

Sophisticated - just like Chirac and other socialist leaders in Europe hired Carville and others.

It is in the best interest of the US for this election to go through, and move on.
The entier west should be jumoing on our side - if not, the ones who criticize will be the countries who have been undercounting us around the world for years.

A riddle if you will.....

[JR]

It's very amazing to me that they had an election and that those 15 candidates had a voice to even complain. Two years ago, they would have been executed in the soccer stadium.... or they would have been Taliban supporters.

It's almost incomprehensible to me that someone would not view the general transition and election as a tremendous triumph over what can only be described as an insane, violent and archaic theocracy that not only actively supported terrorism, but was harboring Bin Laden, his followers as well as allowing them complete and absolute freedom to train terrorists in Afghanistan.

I have noticed that all the "doom and gloom" from the left and general criticism of being in Afghanistan died down fairly quickly from the left and the rest of the world. That must mean great things are happening. It's unfortuneate that those same people aren't so quick to brag about new schools, new hospitals, medicines, more freedoms and rights, women who can walk down the street without being beaten and even have the chance to study and learn, aid programs, UN programs etc etc etc. If they were, the world would be a better place and be focused on the optimism of a better future for all rather than preaching about the "obvious signs" of the impending doom of the human race that has been just around the corner for 10,000,000 years.

The most unfortuneate thing about global politics is that support and opposition always exist for selfish reasons of countries far, far away and the simple people in their own homeland are left without a meaningful voice and are usually the ones who suffer the most.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by JR@Oct 10 2004, 03:01 AM
It's very amazing to me that they had an election and that those 15 candidates had a voice to even complain. Two years ago, they would have been executed in the soccer stadium.... or they would have been Taliban supporters.

It's almost incomprehensible to me that someone would not view the general transition and election as a tremendous triumph over what can only be described as an insane, violent and archaic theocracy that not only actively supported terrorism, but was harboring Bin Laden, his followers as well as allowing them complete and absolute freedom to train terrorists in Afghanistan.

I have noticed that all the "doom and gloom" from the left and general criticism of being in Afghanistan died down fairly quickly from the left and the rest of the world. That must mean great things are happening. It's unfortuneate that those same people aren't so quick to brag about new schools, new hospitals, medicines, more freedoms and rights, women who can walk down the street without being beaten and even have the chance to study and learn, aid programs, UN programs etc etc etc. If they were, the world would be a better place and be focused on the optimism of a better future for all rather than preaching about the "obvious signs" of the impending doom of the human race that has been just around the corner for 10,000,000 years.

The most unfortuneate thing about global politics is that support and opposition always exist for selfish reasons of countries far, far away and the simple people in their own homeland are left without a meaningful voice and are usually the ones who suffer the most.

What happened in Afganistan is amazing. It is truly historic. Afganistan has been one of the most unruly places in the world forever. The English at the top of their power could not make any progress, the Russians while not wanting a Democracy could not get the country settled.

This is a huge first step.

I think one of the keys to defeating Islamacists is enpowering WOMEN. Women have been a very claming influence in the Western World - especially when given the power to vote. Islamcists are afraid of this, they want to continue surpressing women, and treating them as cattle.

If women can become equal to men in that part of the world, it would go a LONG way to stablizing the region.

[grimm]

Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 9 2004, 02:00 PM
Give it to the Afgani's they learn "demeocracy" from the crybabies at the DNC.

I wonder if Al Gore and Jimmy Carter are out there.




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134938,00.html

Chad's tumbprints - its all the same.

i hear the springs are jus faaaaabulous

[Almighty Colin]

Not only are women voting, one of the candidates in the election was a woman.

[PornoDoggy]

I've always thought that anyone who objected to the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan should be personally delivered to a location where they can personally convey their feelings to the Taliban.

I don't want anything blown up my ass - neither gloom and doom or sunshine. The elections this weekend were a very significant first step in one hell of a long road, but any suggestion that they are more than that is grasping at straws.

The most significant event in these elections is the one that didn't happen - there has been no major Taliban attempt to distrupt them reported.

Women voted, women ran for office, girls are going to school in some places ... that's wonderful. Again, a major beginning toward entering the 20th century - but only a beginning.

A place where 40% of a 5 billion dollar GNP is opium has a long way to go . A place where government control of significant areas of the country is nominal at best - and when a big chunk of that territory borders a similar area of an ally du jour who has failed to establish control for 50 years, the scope of the problem becomes clear. A place where huge sections of the country aren't safe enough for the do-gooders in most NGOs (who have more balls than sense in many instances) has a long way to go.

The kinds of stories that tug at western hearts - Suzy Creamcheese Abdulla attending her first day of school, Abdullah Abdullah Abdullah walking barefoot twenty miles to the polls (uphill both ways) - reflect some positive steps, but these are steps that can be wiped out very, very quickly. It's way too early to crow about our victory - we've only just begun.

My biggest concern about Afghanistan is that the problem is larger than can be fixed within the relatively short timeframe provided by Western - particularly American - attention spans.

[Almighty Colin]

PD,

I have a dream.

[Mike AI]

I find it funny liberals (Anti-Bushites) always bring up the opium arguement when it comes to Afganistan.

I guess the United Stated must be a failed Demoracy since most of the world's crack is made in the US!

[RawAlex]

Mike, if crack was 40% of the US GDP, you would have a serious problem.

:P

Alex

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by RawAlex@Oct 11 2004, 10:38 PM
Mike, if crack was 40% of the US GDP, you would have a serious problem.

:P

Alex

HAHA hard to argue with that one Alex!