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What movie or book best describes the human condition?
Metaphorically, etc.
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I just mentioned Lord of the Flies in Sykks thread...
not sure if it "describes the human condition" but it definitely explores human nature Would you mind defining what you mean by desribes the human condition please? |
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I was thinking of Lord Of The Flies as well......
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I'll make a threesome with the boys on L o t F... I just re-read it last year and it's still completely on the nose.
Of course (and yes, I know a ton of you might start crying about Randism but hey it's still true) ... Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead go a long way towards describing the 'condition' currently |
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KK in a threesome! Get the camera!
Make that a foursome since I totally agree with her (and the rest on one)...
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and not just for us sick fucks of the world ....
"Hannibal" not to be confused with that cinematic piece of drivel that masqueraded by the same name I'd welcome you to my memory palace but ..... Well you know Edit - p.s. after further thought I'm wrong, Hannibal is what the human condition at it's loftiest could or should ascend to, no where near what it is currently ... and it has nothing to do with cannibalism I'll have to look at L o t F again (it's been years since I read it), where were the whiney bastards in L o t F crying they should get something for nothing? Last edited by Vick at Jun 17 2003, 09:45 PM |
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not sure if this relates to what you mean by 'human condition' but "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle has lots of points relating to the state of mankind and how we interpret & treat the gift of life.
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the Matrix.
how can we tell we're not in it now h34r:
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Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill's "Fists on Safari" definately goes very deep into describing the human condition...
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Tom Robbin's "Skinny Legs and All" is very appropo to the current human condition...
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I'm working on a book called "All I Know About Life I Learned From The Hispanic Kid That Mows My Lawn" but at the rate I finish shit, it won't be finished until 2033........
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KK... if Sykk's in consider it a go! back off DJ ;-) As an Australian I found reading Ayn Rand gave me a new and really interesting perspective on the American Human Condition. I believe the USA is the only culture on earth able to really embrace Randism.. not saying that I think Americans agree with the philosophy, just that the American psyche can accept her more extreme ideas as plausible. Cutting what could be a long post short.. it made me realize that "American Democracy" and how you understand the word democracy is a world apart from "Australian Democracy" and what I have always understood the word to mean. I think this basic "misunderstanding" makes it difficult for Australians to empathise when so many normally friendly American folk start to talk hardline about defending democracy and/or the United States. I don't claim any greater understanding than others but I think post Ayn Rand I definitely find I "get" you guys a lot more than I used to and also find the differences much easier to accept Has anyone else ever thought AR would be a good pisser? If you have a copy of The Virtue of Selfishness check out chapter 19, "The Argument From Intimidation" It could also be called "Internet Pissing Tactics 101" although people would have thought that was a queer title when she wrote it in 1964 it also closely describes some opranouts debating styles to a tee
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Quit giving away the secrets, Opti...
The first 25 times I read Atlas Shrugged, I considered the ideals and philosophy plausible. As I've gotten older, I've come to realize that wishful thinking really doesn't help much. While I don't believe that anyone can RATIONALLY deny any of the ideals set forth in the novel, wishing the world is different than it is, is a waste of time. We're kind of in The Shrugging of The Flies....
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I didn't know being human was a condition... And I think that question is far too vague and covering a whole lot of aspects. Colin is toying with your brains.
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Damage,
The question is intentionally vague so that answers encapsulate what "the human condition" means to each person. A particular book or movie, for example, may have captured the essence of a particular human quality for someone better than any other. Last edited by Colin at Jun 18 2003, 04:20 AM
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Colin, what do you plan to do with all the psychological profiles you are building on us?
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I'll take Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea".
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So far the best matches are: 1. KK and Brad 2. PornoDoggy and Torone I think it needs tweaking.
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Now I have to ask the burning question... who's MY best match?
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"Internet Predator"
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Opti,
Fascinating analysis. What book would best give me an interesting perspective on the Australian Human Condition?
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I have a sneaky suspicion that even some of the most fanatical devotees around here feel the same as you do in real life... but its hard to be sure who is playing and who is serious around here at times! ;-) Colin, I know it will be far easier to point out something that has given me a new personal perspective into another culture than identify something that could do the same for you with mine. Working backward from my experience I think you would first need to pick another country's flag, stick it over the stars corner of your flag and try to conceive being part of a general public that wouldn't find that a problem. For me the root difference between our societies stems from what we "feel" democracy is.. compared to the US ideals of democracy Australia looks closer to an Authoritarian than Democratic model. We have never had to fight anyone for our deomocracy.. the english set the resort up and just left us with the keys to the place one day?!?! hmmm what to read.. "They're a Weird Mob" by John OGrady and "The Power of One" by Bryce Courtney are books with themes a lot of Australians relate to.. (both foriegn born authors too) I bet there is something better than those though. Timon sounds like he knows! I really wish i could come up with a definitive Australian awareness activity now ![]() I hope I didn't sound too pompos first up Colin... in case it looked otherwise and at the risk of having to wear the brownose hat for the rest of the day... The more I learn about American's for myself the better I like you and the more I respect the culture.
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Another I like, not quite a long those lines but very thought provoking in reference to human experiences- "The Experience of Nothingness" by Michael Novak
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I can't leave this thread alone
![]() Someone will have to nominate The Celestine Prophecies. I remember thinking at 15 years old that it must be full of shit because no two people seemed to agree on exactly what it meant. I later found that it describes group consciousness, a theory that closely matches what I had already felt was a fact for me for some time. It's comforting when I see so many 15 year old boys today are just as pig ignorant as I was :P This isn't a book or movie but it fits this thread. has anyone ever played the board game Diplomacy? If you can face finding out just how ruthless you Really are deep down.. get 7 seven good friends together for a game of this baby.. it looks too simple and only takes 1 minute to learn how to play but it is psychologically spine tingling with the right group of people.. Ant, Nick, Brad, JoeE, Aga, ScottPB type match would be cool... but games with a group like Mike, Colin, Ed, Serge, Billy, Buff, Forest are traditionally the ones that people remember.. ![]() Could be seen as a Lord of the Flies simulation too I just realised. |
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CJ & Dianne - I have to agree that 'the power of NOW is a facinating book. I have loaned my copy out to a couple of other people...........
It has dramaticqlly helped my STRESS LEVEL........... I wish I had read it 5 years ago!. Although I don't agree with all the Philosphy in it - there was still some great parts. I would recommend it to anyone who is having a problem with stress. |
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