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Old 04-16-2004   #1
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Nice profile!

I wonder who ya gotta know to get on the cover of that thing?
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I wonder who ya gotta know to get on the cover of that thing?
thanks, I am sure Serge could hook you up
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I wonder who ya gotta know to get on the cover of that thing?
Maliciously create a thread title that impugns the integrity of a program owner for no reason and then don't acknowledge your mistake after the person you were championing admits you were wrong is what I'm guessing...
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little self promotion MIGHT hurt...HUGE self promotion NEVER hurts
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I didnt create the thread he did...
He was just answering your question.
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having read the interview.................

part seems to be merely a regurgitation of Serge's "Gold Rush" posts ,

part was the opinion of a rebel without a clue.

The rest however I must say , was total garbabge.
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having read the interview.................

part seems to be merely a regurgitation of Serge's "Gold Rush" posts ,

part was the opinion of a rebel without a clue.

The rest however I must say , was total garbabge.
I read some of the same elements.
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having read the interview.................

part seems to be merely a regurgitation of Serge's "Gold Rush" posts ,

part was the opinion of a rebel without a clue.

The rest however I must say , was total garbabge.
Hmmm, maybe you can clue me on as to what Gold Rush posts you are referring to. If you think I merely repeated what I read elsewhere, you are wrong.

I have never read anyone use the Gold Rush analogy (other than myself in previous interviews).

I am also interested in what you thought was garbage.
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What you want me to write a fucking essay?

LOL

Dream on , I have given this far more time than it warrants already.

Good day!

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Good read baddog.

Your one of the few people out there that actually take time to promote yourself.

You wouldn't believe how many lazy motherfuckers there are in this business that bitch and moan, they make no money. But then again..all they do is sit on their ass and wait for the next coming of Christ or something.

They want the money and the webmasters.
But, they don't wanna take a few minutes of their time to do whatever they need to do, to get them webmasters.

Sad, but true.
Fuck them all...let them rot on the unemployment line.
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What you want me to write a fucking essay?

LOL

Dream on , I have given this far more time than it warrants already.

Good day!

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pfft. . . .what's the matter? You seem easy with the criticism, but can't back it up?

Good day, indeed.
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Good read baddog.

Your one of the few people out there that actually take time to promote yourself.

You wouldn't believe how many lazy motherfuckers there are in this business that bitch and moan, they make no money. But then again..all they do is sit on their ass and wait for the next coming of Christ or something.

They want the money and the webmasters.
But, they don't wanna take a few minutes of their time to do whatever they need to do, to get them webmasters.

Sad, but true.
Fuck them all...let them rot on the unemployment line.
Thank you, I do try.
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Go sniff round some models or do whatever it is dickheads do.
I don't know, what is your daily schedule like? Does it include sniffing glue or models?
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Good interview. and here I thought you just rode Harleys and stopped of at internet cafe's to work.
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Good interview. and here I thought you just rode Harleys and stopped of at internet cafe's to work.
Truth be told, I have never been inside an Internet cafe, unless you want to count Starbucks.
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Just as a follow up (to Diamond Jim, since he seems so concerned), I asked PC if she minded if I bumped the GFY thread to retract my comment (even though there really is nothing to retract), and she said she would prefer if the issue dropped from the boards.

I will abide by her wishes.

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corrections:
"It was essentially one of the first, if not the first freehosts targeting adult webmasters.
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the VERY first free hosting was run by Joe Holler,
so you can eliminate "IF" from the next interview
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"The only thing I would definitely do differently would be to get into the providing of goods and services for webmasters a little sooner. I often use the analogy of the 1849 California Gold Rush.

There were tens of thousands of people rushing to California, seeking their fortune in the hills and rivers, hoping for that big strike, or the Mother Lode. Few ever saw their dream come true.

The ones that made the real money were the entrepreneurs that sold goods and services to the miners. Wells Fargo and Levi-Strauss are two examples of this. I like to think that eventually I will reach Well Fargo status, and if I had started a little earlier, perhaps this goal would be reached already.
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all wrong...Levi Strauss made his money during Alaskan Gold Rush in 1898,
some 50 years later
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Klondike Gold Rush is a classical example of all "rushes", not California one which was MUCH smaller and much less dramatic...no frozen bodies along the way like in Alaska
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"Shaving. I will never understand why someone would stay with a program that they know are shaving them. As long as program owners know they can get away with it, it will continue, but I personally don't think it needs to be an accepted practice.
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don't be a fool....
if XYZ pays $1000 per 10000 hits sent and counts only 7000 hits after shave while ABC pays $800 per 10,000 hits sent and counts 10,000 hits without shaving,
SMART people sent, send and will send traffic to shavers.

I hope you understand it now for your next interview
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the part of the industry where wolves eating sheep and spitting their bones remains in tact from the day one......and THIS will NEVER change
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...even if sheep don't know it yet or think they are not eaten but rather fatten up just because the wolf is a very kind wolf
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Serge I think you have salvedged this thread and made it a pearl thread!!
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Serge I think you have salvedged this thread and made it a pearl thread!!
Mike, we had a few good this week,
I just moved this one there:
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I'll move this one later on there too when it falls to second page
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"Shaving. I will never understand why someone would stay with a program that they know are shaving them. As long as program owners know they can get away with it, it will continue, but I personally don't think it needs to be an accepted practice.
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don't be a fool....
if XYZ pays $1000 per 10000 hits sent and counts only 7000 hits after shave while ABC pays $800 per 10,000 hits sent and counts 10,000 hits without shaving,
SMART people sent, send and will send traffic to shavers.

I hope you understand it now for your next interview
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Serge, I would like to interview baddog for oprano.com's new section, "Interviews That Sucks, with Masterp74"



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"The only thing I would definitely do differently would be to get into the providing of goods and services for webmasters a little sooner. I often use the analogy of the 1849 California Gold Rush.

There were tens of thousands of people rushing to California, seeking their fortune in the hills and rivers, hoping for that big strike, or the Mother Lode. Few ever saw their dream come true.

The ones that made the real money were the entrepreneurs that sold goods and services to the miners. Wells Fargo and Levi-Strauss are two examples of this. I like to think that eventually I will reach Well Fargo status, and if I had started a little earlier, perhaps this goal would be reached already.
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all wrong...Levi Strauss made his money during Alaskan Gold Rush in 1898,
some 50 years later
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Klondike Gold Rush is a classical example of all "rushes", not California one which was MUCH smaller and much less dramatic...no frozen bodies along the way like in Alaska
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hate to disagree with you, but Levi Strauss opened in 1854 in San Francisco. Perhaps he made more during the Klondike Rush, but he got his start from the Calif Gold Rush

I stand by my assertion.
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corrections:
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the VERY first free hosting was run by Joe Holler,
so you can eliminate "IF" from the next interview
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if it was before 1996 and targeting adult, okay. I will remember it for the next time, if I ever bring it up again.



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Good interview. and here I thought you just rode Harleys and stopped of at internet cafe's to work.

*A little while later*


Serge, I would like to interview baddog for oprano.com's new section, "Interviews That Sucks, with Masterp74"
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the part of the industry where wolves eating sheep and spitting their bones remains in tact from the day one......and THIS will NEVER change
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...even if sheep don't know it yet or think they are not eaten but rather fatten up just because the wolf is a very kind wolf
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the question was, "Predictions for the future… where do you think the adult web will be a year from now?"

I don't think your observation would have been an appropriate response.

Of course, I do try to limit my comments to my perspective, and not that of others.
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here is what you probably was reffering to,
alas, the source of it is...a LEGEND:

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King of the wheeling, dealing entrepenuers was Sam Brannan. The man who pulled the trigger on the Gold Rush was expanding his sphere of influence -- and earning unheard of profits. While miners talked of gold, Brannan shrewdly bought up carpet tacks -- every tack in California. By cornering the market, he could extort huge profits, a technique he executed flawlessly -- over and over. But Brannan was only the first in a long line of entrepenuers who made their fortunes without digging for gold.

In 1853 -- according to legend -- this man stitched a pair of pants out of canvas; sturdy pants that later became popular with the miners -- very popular. His name:Levi Strauss. But during the Gold Rush, Strauss was best known for his prosperous dry good business. It wasn't until 1872 that he added a critical innovation to canvas pants, the metal rivet -- a breakthrough that would change the course of American fashion.

This New York butcher decided one day to walk to California. Eventually, he opened a meat market in Placerville -- and later took his profits to Milwaukee, where he set up a meat processing plant. His name was Phillip Armour, and the Armour meat packing company became one of the nation's largest.

Armour's neighbor in Placerville, was an enterprising wheelbarrow maker who dreamed of bigger things. After saving every dime for six years, he left California for his home in Indiana. There, he plowed his profits into the family wagon-making business.
The man's name was John Studebaker -- and the family enterprise would go on to build covered wagons for the Oregon-bound pioneers, and later -- automobiles.




These two businessmen also looked west and saw opportunity. Sensing the unsettled atmosphere in California -- they offered what many miners desperately wanted: stability. The offered secure, honest banking, transportation, even mail delivery. They were Henry Wells and William Fargo. Their company, Wells Fargo, became a giant in the banking industry.

The most famous celebrity of the Gold Rush era came to California as a complete unknown and took a job writing for the San Francisco "Call." It wasn't long until his fanciful story about a frog jumping contest in nearby Calaveras County thrust him into the national spotlight. His name: Samuel Clemens -- Mark Twain.
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I'd hate to disagree with me on American history too
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1) you contradict yourself with the dates..
Gold Rush started in 448-49,
and LS opened the store in 1854...long after the rush was over
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Not really sure why I am arguing this point with you, however, Levi Strauss was selling his pants (made out of tent canvas) before he had enough money to open his first store.

He was a kid, newly arrived to CA, with the intent of selling tents and wagon covers. The pants idea came as the result of a miner complaining that pants wore out too fast mining in the mountains.

While gold was indeed first discovered in 1848, and the rush began in 1849, this lasted several years. Strauss arrived in 1850, and the Gold Rush was still going strong.

With all due respect, I am sorry, but being a 5th generation Californian, born in San Francisco, and rather proud of my heritage, I highly doubt you are going to school me on California history.
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In 1853 -- according to legend -- this man stitched a pair of pants out of canvas; sturdy pants that later became popular with the miners -- very popular. His name:Levi Strauss. But during the Gold Rush, Strauss was best known for his prosperous dry good business. It wasn't until 1872 that he added a critical innovation to canvas pants, the metal rivet -- a breakthrough that would change the course of American fashion.
haha - so, because it was legend, it can't possibly be true? Maybe you aren't real either then, huh
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Arguing over a $20 pair of jeans and a $15 shovel.
Bored, eh?


(yeah yeah Serge I know it's more than that - but since the point isn't being made there really isn't a point, is there?)
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Arguing over a $20 pair of jeans and a $15 shovel.
Bored, eh?


(yeah yeah Serge I know it's more than that - but since the point isn't being made there really isn't a point, is there?)
when was the last time you bought a pair of Levis? has been a while since they were $20
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