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12-29-2003 | #1 |
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Okay, as I said in my intro this morning...Im fairly new to this. I have a cute little site put together (thanks to my server host dreamnet). I have done zero marketing for it. So all my sales/hits come via dreamnet. What I would like to do, is become the marketing queen. Honestly, that is something that has scared me a bit because I dont understand how to get Joe wannabeaporn Buyer to my site. I have seen the cross banner linking, and wonder how effective that is.... So, as a new venture...what would you folks recommend the way to begin to market my site....banner exhanges...search engine postings...what? WHat have you found that is most effective for you?
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sedona, what you are asking is basically how to play poker explained to you in 2 mins time..
marketing is one tough ART ;-)))
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I think the only you are going to be able to tell what is 'effective' is trying out different things. There is not 1 definitive answer to your question unfortunatley. Most amatuers have spend a considerable amount of time trying different approaches like the ones you mentioned. Some worked well for some and not well for others. It really depends on various factors. The same traffic may convert for you, but not for someone else. The key is to finding the traffic and works for you and then making the most of that traffic even if its just a small amount. I know it seems like I basically told you nothing and you came looking the "the answer", but there just isn't one I wish there was. I am curious---does DreamNet offering you any kind of help with marketing? They have been in the biz a long time, I would assume that as a partner site they would have some area of the girls to view with some ideas, tips, tricks, that sort of thing. Do they not? |
12-29-2003 | #4 |
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All I can say to you, is for a whole year, we've been spending our whole evening in front of our computers even sometimes our whole days, we've been trading links, builting different designs, trading links, making photo shoot with other web gals, trading links, surfing porn, trading links, exchanging promopacks, putting our URL in as many free ressources as possible, making new friends, trading links, installing a counter to see if we actually get the traffic there, trading links, changing the pic on the friends pages, trading links, posting some galleries in TGP's, builting a refferal program so other people can post our galleries in TGP's or promote us.... and did I say, the most important of all TRADING LINKS and spending 90% of our time in front of our computers!
We started with nothing, slowly got more and more things, grew a bit bigger, changed approach a few times and went down last summer and slowly, since the holliday season started, we got a lot more memberships on a daily basis. If I compare with last year's holidays we now get 10X what we use to get in memberships then. |
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Well, lets see... 1st, if you didn't get the Alexa toolbar, go get it at www.alexa.com . It will help you see how much traffic you are getting to your site and also when you add your link to someone's friendspage you will be able to tell if she's got some traffic or not. The lower the ranking is, the more traffic you are getting. Have to be carefull thought, quantity doesn't necessarily mean quality. You can also with alexa see where the site gets traffic from. Sometimes, it will help you to find those TGP's and those toplist you wouldn't have find otherwise.
Like Kacy said, some things will work for some but won't for others... we basically tried everything but two 1- buying traffic (it's an amateur site, there will always be amateurs wanting to promote your site for free, don't need to buy it.) 2- Top list pop ups and exit consoles (most surfers despise them, won't ever go back to see your site if they see that.) If you don't have it now, get yourself an autorank page, don't go for someone setting it up to you in exchange of banners because that will make a leak in it so you won't get higher in their friends page rank, they basically steal traffic from you... unless someone makes it and tells you they will put the autorank codes in it, but that's not everyone who is willing to do that. And never link to someone else if they don't have a link back at you, check your stats often to see if you get traffic from them and go check their sites often to see if you are still on it. The ressources are so crowded. But you can still find some that will bring you a good amount of traffic because your link will be post on top for a few days. There are many picture post sites where you can put a URL, there are the TGP's (but not the biger ones, they have way too much stuff on it) If you want some links, hit me on ICQ 167891193 There are all your keywords you can put in your text (html) on your site to make your it be caught by search engines. When you type your text, type it wisely... Think of what a porn surfer might type in a search engine. You can even go with mispelling some words, lots of them do typos. Oh and I surfed through your site but only got 2 pages. Maybe I am dumb or maybe I checked it too quick. I would put more thought. My site is about to change. I never liked that kind of tour I have, on January first it will be a whole new stand alone tour mostly HTML. It's going to be much better. |
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SHe be one smart cookie and works with a lot of the girls. Also spend a lot of time asking questions and trying different things. And of course hanging out on Oprano. Thats the biggest headstart you could give yourself. After we get back from Vegas I hve some resources and tips I will post here for the use of our amateurs. Another thing I would look into would be getting your own domain name and maybe some nekkid hosting!
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12-30-2003 | #10 |
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You might want to try and start with some of the top lists for red heads to generate some niche traffic http://certifiedredheads.com http://pickaredhead.com http://clickforredheads.com http://lotzaredheads.com http://kissaredhead.com http://www.amateurcafe.net/redheadmania http://www.redheadconnection.com/lists/index.htm http://www.sexplexx.com/a11rank/redheads.htm http://www.cravesites.com/asbreds/index.htm http://www.amateurcafe.net/rank/redheads.htm http://www.abustyredhead.com/rankredhead/index.htm Do you know if you are able to have "friendspage" on DreamNet? If so, I would try that for sure. If they won't install the script for you, then you can get a free one at http://friendspage.com These things would at least get you some fresh surfers that probably have not seen you before and you can see how the trafffic works for you and go from there |
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Ive got some MGP traffic Id like to wash thru some top lists. This isnt a personality site but washing out some of the bottom feeder freeloaders that are looking for more free porn. THe categories at at www.gonzomovies.com/main.shtml Any suggestions?
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Have you considered categorizing them more? Like into directories
www.gonzomovies.com/anal/movie.mpg www.gonzomovies.com/ebony/movie.mpg This way you can submit that specific URL to the different niche Top Lists and the traffic would already be well filtered. Then just use niche specific sponsors on each page. Just make a template and copy if over and over for each niche and just change out the banners and movie links. Then you can add links to hosted galleries for the niche, POD, etc. So you can give it all on one page Hope that helps! |
12-30-2003 | #13 |
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Oh and then... (sorry I can just go one forever about this)
make your index page the directory for the categories and then you can have whatever mixture of sponsors on the main page |
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Guess Id better wait till next Christmas eh?
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