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pornlaw 07-07-2009 12:12 PM
2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
LOS ANGELES, CA -- www.2257Safe.com was conceived and designed to provide the best system for organizing and storing your 2257 records through a rich internet application that works via all popular web browsers: Windows, Mac OSX and Linux. The site is so intuitive you can manage your 2257 records on the road, from any location where there is an internet connectivity. 2257Safe LLC has emerged as the leader in third party record keeping.

As an affiliate of 2257Safe LLC, not only you will have the chance to build a recurring income stream for the life of your affiliates but you will be providing a service which sets people's minds at ease regarding 2257 record keeping. . Our affiliate program is quite easy: Earn 50% of ALL recurring revenue for the life of the referral's membership. We offer up to $74.99 monthly payouts depending on the level of membership selected by your referral. Not ONE-TIME payouts, but monthly ongoing income!

With 2257Safe LLC you can set your payout level as low as $100 per month. Again, the retention level of referrals will be strong and may last years based on the requirements of 28 CFR 75 and 18 USC 2257, which require that records be kept for as long as 5 YEARS even after the company stops operating.

To sign up as an official 2257Safe LLC affiliate, simply visit www.2257Safe.com click on the Affiliates & Licensing menu and choose Affiliate Program and then Affiliate Sign Up. Once completed, activate your affiliate account by visiting the Affiliate Stats to get your unique referral link and banners and start earning income today.

For any questions regarding licensing or the affiliate program, please email kevin@2257safe.com

tony404 07-07-2009 02:11 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 827924)
LOS ANGELES, CA -- www.2257Safe.com was conceived and designed to provide the best system for organizing and storing your 2257 records through a rich internet application that works via all popular web browsers: Windows, Mac OSX and Linux. The site is so intuitive you can manage your 2257 records on the road, from any location where there is an internet connectivity. 2257Safe LLC has emerged as the leader in third party record keeping.

As an affiliate of 2257Safe LLC, not only you will have the chance to build a recurring income stream for the life of your affiliates but you will be providing a service which sets people's minds at ease regarding 2257 record keeping. . Our affiliate program is quite easy: Earn 50% of ALL recurring revenue for the life of the referral's membership. We offer up to $74.99 monthly payouts depending on the level of membership selected by your referral. Not ONE-TIME payouts, but monthly ongoing income!

With 2257Safe LLC you can set your payout level as low as $100 per month. Again, the retention level of referrals will be strong and may last years based on the requirements of 28 CFR 75 and 18 USC 2257, which require that records be kept for as long as 5 YEARS even after the company stops operating.

To sign up as an official 2257Safe LLC affiliate, simply visit www.2257Safe.com click on the Affiliates & Licensing menu and choose Affiliate Program and then Affiliate Sign Up. Once completed, activate your affiliate account by visiting the Affiliate Stats to get your unique referral link and banners and start earning income today.

For any questions regarding licensing or the affiliate program, please email kevin@2257safe.com
So can I sign up as a affiliate and then join under myself :)

pornlaw 07-07-2009 05:25 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Gee -- Tony if you send two $29.99 affiliate referrals and sign up for the $29.99 plan -- your account is FREE...

I know you hate our pricing structure but it really cant get cheaper than that.

tony404 07-08-2009 05:06 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 827933)
Gee -- Tony if you send two $29.99 affiliate referrals and sign up for the $29.99 plan -- your account is FREE...

I know you hate our pricing structure but it really cant get cheaper than that.
I wish you all the best :)

pornlaw 07-08-2009 07:20 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 827964)
I wish you all the best :)
Thank you... :okthumb:

Hell Puppy 07-08-2009 08:03 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 827933)
Gee -- Tony if you send two $29.99 affiliate referrals and sign up for the $29.99 plan -- your account is FREE...

I know you hate our pricing structure but it really cant get cheaper than that.
Does that mean those size limitations of content are gone?

Honestly, I quit paying attention to the product and dismissed it from mind when I saw those. they may be ok for the guys with cookie cutter tours who do not update, but if you run an active site producing content constantly, we tear thru terabytes of storage of raw footage.

pornlaw 07-09-2009 06:20 AM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
No offense but it looks like you have 4 sites. Unless you are talking about other sites that arent on FatFuckingCash.com how do you run through terabytes worth of storage ? I dont know how many vids/pics you have but I have a hard time believing that you have more content than some of the clients that we are currently working with.

I have clients we are working with that have 3-4 times the number of sites and also put out DVDs each month and have 1000 to 5000 members. They update each site once a week and have been in operation for years.

I would really have to know exactly what your current storage is to be able to give you an idea of what your costs would be.

RawAlex 07-09-2009 12:18 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
It's a critical reading skill thing. Gonzo said "raw footage" - not what is on the website. Realistically, you have to document in 2257 your original content, not the shrunk down versions that appear on the websites. Raw video footage is very, very big indeed!

pornlaw 07-09-2009 08:55 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 827987)
Realistically, you have to document in 2257 your original content, not the shrunk down versions that appear on the websites. Raw video footage is very, very big indeed!
Ummm no thats not what it says... here's the law and here's the definition from 28 CFR 75....I have highlighted the relevant portions to make that critical reading issue easier...

Quote:
§ 75.1 Definitions.

(d) Sell, distribute, redistribute, and re-release refer to commercial distribution of a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digitally- or computer-manipulated image, digital image, picture, or other matter that contains a visual depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual or simulated sexually explicit conduct, but does not refer to noncommercial or educational distribution of such matter, including transfers conducted by bona fide lending libraries, museums, schools, or educational organizations
No mention of raw footage....It is what is commercially distributed that counts.

Quote:
§ 75.2 Maintenance of records.

(a) Any producer of any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digitally- or computer-manipulated image, digital image, picture, or other matter that is produced in whole or in part with materials that have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped, transported, or intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce, and that contains one or more visual depictions of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct (except lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person) made after July 3, 1995, or one or more visual depictions of an actual human being engaged in simulated sexually explicit conduct or in actual sexually explicit conduct limited to lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person made after March 18, 2009, shall, for each performer portrayed in such visual depiction, create and maintain records containing the following:
What is not put into the stream of commerce is not covered. For example, if you make a home movie with your significant other, 2257 doesnt apply. Once you sell it or attempt to sell it, you need docs. Same applies to raw footage. If no one ever sees it, then there cant be an inspection.

RawAlex 07-09-2009 10:00 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
So what you are saying is that a primary producer doens't require records for the original work? They don't have to track the original work, only when it is actually used? So they can have tons of unused work, and not have to have a single document for it?

Hell Puppy 07-09-2009 10:09 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 827985)
No offense but it looks like you have 4 sites. Unless you are talking about other sites that arent on FatFuckingCash.com how do you run through terabytes worth of storage ? I dont know how many vids/pics you have but I have a hard time believing that you have more content than some of the clients that we are currently working with.

I have clients we are working with that have 3-4 times the number of sites and also put out DVDs each month and have 1000 to 5000 members. They update each site once a week and have been in operation for years.

I would really have to know exactly what your current storage is to be able to give you an idea of what your costs would be.
You deflected the question.

I'll assume that means yes you are still charging by size.

pornlaw 07-09-2009 11:37 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 828046)
You deflected the question.

I'll assume that means yes you are still charging by size.
Sorry -- of course we are. If you have another suggestion I would love to hear it.

Quote:
So what you are saying is that a primary producer doens't require records for the original work? They don't have to track the original work, only when it is actually used? So they can have tons of unused work, and not have to have a single document for it?
Dont spin it. What I am saying is that you dont need to worry about an inspection as to content that has never been commercially distributed. If the content is in raw form, ie still on mini-dv and never been released to the public why would you need to be worried about an inspection ? That content doesnt exist to the DOJ/FBI. As for an inspection, the DOJ/FBI are going to walk into a producer's office with screen caps of performers from content they have prescreened and ask to see docs and IDs for those specific performers they have questions about. They dont come in an do a complete inspection of every vid/photo.

Krissy4 Porn 07-15-2009 01:01 AM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 827933)
Gee -- Tony if you send two $29.99 affiliate referrals and sign up for the $29.99 plan -- your account is FREE...

I know you hate our pricing structure but it really cant get cheaper than that.

nice :okthumb:

gonzo 02-17-2011 11:56 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Any idea where this site went?

Hell Puppy 02-18-2011 12:03 AM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 

Toby 02-18-2011 01:25 AM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
From the zoo:

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmdguy (Post 17917148)
Hello everyone, this is Dan and I wanted to give a quick heads up to the fact that 2257Safe has changed its name this year, and has now become 2257Snap. I was the lead programmer of the original YTracker software engine 6 years ago which was used as the model for the powerful backend for 2257Safe. 2257Snap consists of the same service at 2257Safe, only now I am the principle owner. If you already had an account with 2257Safe then you should already know that all of your data and log ins are working fine over at 2257Snap. One of the things that people enjoy about working with us is that I am very quick and friendly to reply and help out with any questions. The initial 2257Safe development took us 16 months to complete and was tested heavily during that time. I am also always improving and revising the system based on valuable client feedback. My YTracker organizational model was written 6 years ago, has been field tested and proven in real world inspection situations over that time, so I know it does what it needs to. Anyway, if you have any questions please feel free to let me know.

EmporerEJ 02-18-2011 11:28 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Ok, so this is from the site:

"PCI-DSS Compliant Servers

Used by banks and credit card processing, PCI-DSS compliance is the gold standard among security-based data storage. 2257Snap's servers are PCI-DSS compliant and that translates into safety and security for your 2257 records."


Gee, that's swell, but you'd have to do that anyhow, if you are accepting credit cards?????
We're compliant, because we have our own merchant account, but I don't go around selling it like it's a feature or something.....maybe I should?

Sure does look important in print....

EmporerEJ 02-18-2011 11:29 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 838150)
Why are there so many "toilet flushing" videos on youtube?
Are people REALLY that bored?

RawAlex 02-19-2011 04:28 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Why does Jersey have chemical plants and California has all the lawyers?






















jersey got to pick first.

Jim_Gunn 02-20-2011 03:23 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
I would love to know the real story behind what happened with 2257 Safe and why Pornlaw is not involved anymore. and why Dan transferred the service and customers to his new 2257Snap.com domain. This also necessitated customers having to log in and update their records and also forced a custodian of record address change.

EmporerEJ 02-20-2011 04:12 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 838166)
I would love to know the real story behind what happened with 2257 Safe and why Pornlaw is not involved anymore. and why Dan transferred the service and customers to his new 2257Snap.com domain. This also necessitated customers having to log in and update their records and also forced a custodian of record address change.
Is this the "dan" I think it is?

tony404 02-21-2011 04:52 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Dan Seems like a nice guy. I remember I had a phone call with Micheal and he told how he was in for the long haul. I guess my next question should of been, what do you consider the long haul? lol

Affiliater 02-25-2011 08:07 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Oh snap! :doh01:

Forest 02-27-2011 03:33 AM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
wasnt KB involved somehow?

DWB 02-27-2011 03:25 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest (Post 838199)
wasnt KB involved somehow?
I think he was at one time.

RawAlex 02-27-2011 11:55 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest (Post 838199)
wasnt KB involved somehow?
Quick, name two things like this that KB wasn't somehow involved with.

pornlaw 02-28-2011 12:20 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Sorry I didnt see this thread sooner....

I will clarify some issues for everyone. I am not involved with 2257Snap.com. Dan was the original programmer that developed the software that was running the site. He decided to continue to service our current clients and expand the business on his own.

I stepped away for one major reason - I didnt want 2257Safe.com to be the target of possible hack attempts. I am getting involved with the copyright litigation and have seen other attorneys targeted online and in person for filing these cases. We filed our first case on the behalf of XPays several weeks ago and have several more scheduled (which at this time I am holding off on though). While 2257Safe did have PCI-DSS servers, the new company does not. Even though the records are encrypted I did not believe the encryption was sufficient to protect the records we were entrusted with. The financial liability for a breach can be tremendous. I thought the site and the business was better off and safer without my involvement.

I have also be told of several other camsites that have been hacked and performers IDs and social security numbers leaked over the internet. I simply did not want to be responsible for a potential breach.

Therefore it was an easy decision to step away.

Dan is great. He provides solid service and will continue on. He has done a great job moving everyone over and continuing on.

softball 02-28-2011 12:44 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 838219)
Sorry I didnt see this thread sooner....

I will clarify some issues for everyone. I am not involved with 2257Snap.com. Dan was the original programmer that developed the software that was running the site. He decided to continue to service our current clients and expand the business on his own.

I stepped away for one major reason - I didnt want 2257Safe.com to be the target of possible hack attempts. I am getting involved with the copyright litigation and have seen other attorneys targeted online and in person for filing these cases. We filed our first case on the behalf of XPays several weeks ago and have several more scheduled (which at this time I am holding off on though). While 2257Safe did have PCI-DSS servers, the new company does not. Even though the records are encrypted I did not believe the encryption was sufficient to protect the records we were entrusted with. The financial liability for a breach can be tremendous. I thought the site and the business was better off and safer without my involvement.

I have also be told of several other camsites that have been hacked and performers IDs and social security numbers leaked over the internet. I simply did not want to be responsible for a potential breach.

Therefore it was an easy decision to step away.

Dan is great. He provides solid service and will continue on. He has done a great job moving everyone over and continuing on.
So what you are saying is that you are very nervous about the safety of these records? Or did I miss something?

tony404 02-28-2011 12:51 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 838221)
So what you are saying is that you are very nervous about the safety of these records? Or did I miss something?
A very good question.

pornlaw 02-28-2011 02:04 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 838221)
So what you are saying is that you are very nervous about the safety of these records? Or did I miss something?
C'mon its called "lawyer-speak" !

Perhaps this will be more clear - I would have been nervous if I had stayed involved. As for 2257Safe I dont remember ever having anyone even attempt a hack. I felt that with remaining involved it would have put a bull's eye on the site.

With me gone I do not feel there is the same level of threat had I stayed. However, I am skittish about maintaining any records online at this point.

From all of the attacks on adult industry websites over the past year by Anon and 4Chan as well as IDs and 2257 docs being leaked I just didnt want the risk.

I am not going recommend that anyone store financial/personal information records online until the adult industry uses PCI-DSS servers.

This also applies to cam sites that have girls upload their IDs, releases and 2257 docs. Too many cam sites merely encrypt that data. I post on another board where its been rumored that several sites have had their model databases infiltrated by fans.

Its not a specific 2257Snap issue it is an industry wide issue.

softball 02-28-2011 02:48 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
so what your saying, is keep personal id's off the net and store in either hard copy, digital media, locked in a bank or a very secure location. Anywhere that is offline. BTW, that is what I do and always will.

Forest 02-28-2011 04:00 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DWB (Post 838203)
I think he was at one time.
has there ever been anything kb has been a part of that actually was a success?

i mean beside the chick that banged charlie sheen then ran to kb to cash out

pornlaw 03-01-2011 11:26 AM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
To clarify further, I have been informed by Dan that 2257Snap does in fact use PCI-DSS servers - which means he is using the gold standard of security in regards to protecting the information....

If in fact 2257Snap is hosted on PCI-DSS servers I believe that while the threat is there, anyone having the ability to hack PCI-DSS would probably spend their time hacking a bank or a credit card company instead...

Sorry for the confusion and thank you to Dan for clarifying up that issue.

gonzo 03-01-2011 12:35 PM
Re: 2257Safe.com Launches Affiliate Program
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forest (Post 838228)
has there ever been anything kb has been a part of that actually was a success?

i mean beside the chick that banged charlie sheen then ran to kb to cash out
KB moved to Hollywood just in case you missed it.

And if you want to know where hes having lunch dinner or drinks Ill let you know after he posts it to facebook - cuz after all hes in Hollywood.


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