Crossed my mind (short trip) this evening

While Karl Marx issued Manifest der kommunistischen Partei (Communist Manifesto) in the hope of precipitating social revolution .....
So far that hasn't really worked and (IMNSHO) at best are marginally interesting to read and then follow the influence his writing and work had

Grouch gave us entertainment and thought provoking witticisms that still hold true and amuse us

Wonder if MTV could do a Marx Celebrity death match :groucho:

Duck Soup is much more entertaining than the manifesto ... :)

Animal Crackers for your Duck Soup after A night at the Opera followed by a Day at the Races

I wish Groucho would have authored the communist manifesto, russia would have been a much happier place.

Hail Hail Freedonia !!!!!!!!

My alma mater (or at least one of dem):
http://ww1.fredonia.edu/fweb/default.aspx


:groucho:

This one.

http://www.lyrics.com/m/marx,_richard/richard.marx.jpg

Ewe .... :P
80's hair - is that a mullet? :unsure:

Poor Harpo never gets talked about.

Oh the irony :groucho:

Oh the irony :groucho:[/b][/quote]
I figured you would enjoy that, Vick! :)

oh please...

zeppo was the least known...

anyways, if harpo had known that orprah would
bastardize his name into her production company
he'd have chosen another name... :nyanya:



Last edited by nlphoto at Nov 4 2003, 07:03 AM

:okthumb:
hahhahahaha
;-)))

"If you happened to take a look up FDR's family tree, you might run into Clinton Roosevelt, who wrote a booklet entitled Science Of Government Founded On Natural Law (Dean & Trevett, NY). What makes this work important is that this little document contains most of the New Deal/Communist Manifesto. And what makes the thing interesting is that it came out in 1841, several years before Karl Marx's work! The truth is that both Clinton Roosevelt's Science and Karl Marx's Manifesto were plagiaries of yet an earlier eighteenth century collection of writings by another Jew named Adam Weishaupt.


Weishaupt died in 1830 and Clinton Roosevelt simply picked up the torch and passed it on to Marx."

http://www.liesexposed.net/nfp/issue0103/roose.htm (anti-semitic) anyone that gets upset over such text should not look at that link.

I was looking up info on the bastard Roosevelt, and came across this paragraph.

I had not heard this theory until then.

Think it's true?



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 4 2003, 07:42 AM

Marx spent over 7 years researching in a library in London as he wrote his works. its not surprising that most of it was "borrowed"

Naw, few people ever remember the fourth brother ... Guido Marx. :P

They never mention the slightly strange brother Emma Marx.

;-))

or the one that had a lot to say

Re Marx

ahahahahahahahahahha

The blues singing brother

Black Marx

What about the least liked brother of all:

Skid Marx

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That's really shitty to bring him up

ahahahahahahahahahaha

OK, Vick , you've gone too far!

I think this thread should now be closed!

I know, I know.. trust me to lower the tone :D

Marx spent over 7 years researching in a library in London as he wrote his works. its not surprising that most of it was "borrowed"[/b][/quote]
What are you suggesting Marx "borrowed"? And who did he "borrow" it from?

What are you suggesting Marx "borrowed"? And who did he "borrow" it from?[/b][/quote]
now i understand why you are "JoeSixpack" and not "Joe the Literate"

A very addicting site

http://www.marxists.org

I love reading this stuff. I speak Russian fairly well and have read all of Lenins writings as well as studied East European History of the last century quite a bit. When reading their writings and considering it within the context of the times they were writing in, it makes a lot of sense.

here is most of Lenins stuff in English.
http://www.newyouth.com/archives/classics/...by_vi_lenin.asp

It is, of course, a well known fact that Franklin Roosevelt was a Jew. That truth was established by a prominent German politician in the 1930s-40s. If you are inclined to believe in the theories proffered by the likes of such people - or if you are inclined to believe it matters one fucking bit whether he was or wasn't - than I am sure you can take whatever is on that website as absolute truth. :rolleyes:

But the profound truth goes far beyond plagarism by Marx and an early Roosevelt. I mean, can't you see the significance?

CLINTON Roosevelt? Ohmyohmy ... the plot thickens :ph34r:

yes it does.

i like reading all this as well.

historical writings hold all the secrets to the wool over our eyes.

'My mom taught me at an early age to not believe anything, that anyone says.' - Charles Manson

There is no truth except right now.

http://members.tripod.com/~Borocar/sci-gov/



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 5 2003, 08:50 AM

The unheard of Marx but one of the most important: Sam Marx
My mom had him as a sugar daddy for 30 years when I was in Hollywood. Started with Mayer and Thalberg, now MGM...discovered a cutie and put her in Lassie Come Home, Elizabeth Taylor...one of the behind the scenes moguls of the movie biz.

He died last year at the age of 101...my mom got some nice goodies, the best is Post Office Box 1, Beverly Hills, CA

Do a google search on Sam Marx...amazing life.

now i understand why you are "JoeSixpack" and not "Joe the Literate"[/b][/quote]
So answer the question.

I am supposed to believe that most of the people in this thread have read Marx and understand it? right.

I've only read the Communist Manifesto. Capital put me to sleep.

I'm interested to know what J.R. thinks Marx "borrowed". The implication being that Marx was some kind of German commie plagarist.

Marx took the ideas of others - like Hegel's dialectic - and applied it to his own work, sure. But that's not ripping off someone else's stuff.



Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Nov 5 2003, 04:13 PM

I agree. To say he is a difficult read is an understatement. Reading it is one thing, understanding him is another. Many a phd thesis has been written that just involve dumbing his material down. None of the critics on here have made any statement beyond the standard kneejerk comments about his ideas on the shortcomings of capitalism. Which only prove they have no idea the breadth and the scope of his work. I am trying my hardest not to get involved in this thread. Marx was a genius.

I can hear it now, "but he was wrong about the revolution". Listen up halfwits. Marx was writing at a time when the proletariate were working under conditions that one could barely imagine now. Marx only failed to predict the ability of capitalism and the means of production to adapt. It would have only been a matter of time if people were forced to work under horrific conditions that they would eventually rise up and start killing. Conditions improved enough to keep people happy and keep the revolution a distant idea. This still holds true today, 90% of the population make enough to just survive on a daily basis. The artificial need created by the culture industry keeps you consuming, keeps you working for whatever they will give you. Fucking sheep.

I agree, I would like to know what he ripped off from someone else.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 5 2003, 04:34 PM

I was forced to....right
;-))

wanna swap some notes on Der Kapital and Manifesto?

"Prizrak brodit po Evrope, Prizrak Kommunizma"
;-))))

Labret, Marx failed in his economical predictions of how Socialism would work
;-)))

""The trouble with Communism is the Communists, just as the trouble with Christianity is the Christians."" - H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

;-)))

So then it is logical to assume that the problem with America is Americans...

:nyanya:

So then it is logical to assume that the problem with America is Americans...

:nyanya:[/b][/quote]
as logical as it can get.

the problem with america is definitely americans.

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/rebel.gif>

as logical as it can get.

the problem with america is definitely americans.

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/rebel.gif>[/b][/quote]
And yes, the problem with Australia is Australians.

:stout:

Cheers!

heheh cheers.

another problem with america is the fucking beer.

look what my girl picked up the other day.

fucking LOW CARB ROLLING ROCK, can you believe this shit?

<img src=http://www.fletchxxx.com/images/lowcarb.jpg border="1">

i had a sip the other day and damn near spit it out.

hahaha

I simply will not drink any beer labelled light, lite or low fucking anything. It's an abomination.

Shame you can't get to Amsterdam for New Years Eve. In early January I'm going to Belgium for some serious beer drinking.

:stout:

I hear ya man.

Eh well, my original plans were to be in New Orleans for New Years (family), Ive pushed that back to make Mardi Gras instead. Bring your ass to Mardi Gras, we'll do some serious drinking. :awinky:

I got friends who owns bars there fuuuuuck.

heh



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Nov 5 2003, 06:07 PM

I hear ya man.

Eh well, my original plans were to be in New Orleans for New Years (family), Ive pushed that back to make Mardi Gras instead. Bring your ass to Mardi Gras, we'll do some serious drinking. :awinky:

I got friends who owns bars there fuuuuuck.

heh[/b][/quote]
When's Mardi Gras?

When's Mardi Gras?[/b][/quote]
http://www.mardigras.com/

if you seriously want to go.

My barowner buddy will let you crash at his pad in the heart of New Orleans, walking distance to his bar and many more hehehe.

Mardi Gras Day Feb. 24, 2004

drinking in nola is super cheap, and you wont need to find a place to crash.

:rokk:

http://www.mardigras.com/

if you seriously want to go.

My barowner buddy will let you crash at his pad in the heart of New Orleans, walking distance to his bar and many more hehehe.

Mardi Gras Day Feb. 24, 2004

drinking in nola is super cheap, and you wont need to find a place to crash.

:rokk:[/b][/quote]
Have always wanted to go but doubt I'll be able to make it for 2004. Damn!

It's mainly a money issue but timing is also a factor.

Maybe I'll pencil it in for 2005 and try and get there... things like this need planning.

:hic:

trust me, I know the feeling.

going to another country to drink and do drugs aint cheap.

hehehe

:awinky:

Mardi Gras, words just can't quite describe it. :lol:

Come amsterdam. It'll be worth it. Bitch.