MikeAI,
Diggles is crying like a fucking baby,
is that OK to post his e-mail where he claims to have balls of brass and how he thinks about running job service on his own????
we obliged the fucker, we let him run on his own and now he complains that we did....
some people have balls of brass and BRAINS made of the same material
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))
Fri, 10 Aug - 21:38:48 12.89.182.88 Post #: 9800
...still got that check serge...
still framed on the wall with other "momentos" of the era...
Rob, if you need good lawyer in America-
let me know!
Serge The Affiliate Program that PAYS!
Thu, 09 Aug 2001 07:51:02 - IP: 63.21.130.92 - Post # 9545
just one that knows the rules Serge, and then i'll happily tell em how i want to do it :-))
youmay have to give me 2 or 3, some dont like losing "know all status"
:-))
Nick i played 18 holes yesterday at a course in Melbourne called Riversdale...my mate whos off scratch tells me its the best clay belt around...and i feel the effects today :-(( Rob Mac
Fri, 10 Aug - 21:05:22 203.134.132.92 Post #: 9791
Serge we all kow about that big buldge in your pocket!! Pull out a $100 and lets make the winner of this contest happy!
Hell maybe an autographed $100 bill from Serge... a collectors item for framing!!
Mutt, even the longest journey must start with one step.
The thing is there is so many parts to the singup equation. CC databases are hosed, surfers are scared of getting their CCs slammed, there is major scrub going on with databases that are inherently flawed.
Unfortunately, people like you and I cannot influence CC companies, and the big boys who play games with people'c credit cards.
So work with what one does have control over... it is ironic that TGP2 might be great, but we may never know since if its not the crazy scrubbing getting you, its one of the turkeys shaving...
The free hosts prolly more than any other entity can make TGP2 a success. But it's a big sacrifice. Webmasters who use free hosts are either newbies, hobbyists or idiots.
They won't understand the concept and will take their traffic as shitty as it is elsewhere.
Noble cause tho. If the really big players wanted to improve things for themselves they'd fund a full time anti free loader team of webmasters to do nothing but make the lives of those who give away free stolen porn
much harder.
It's going to take a lot of resources to battle this. All the new file sharing systems that have emerged from Napster's shadow are worse than free hosts and TGPs. Surfers want movies, big fat movies more than anything else. And that's where the action is now.
Funny thing is I know lots of still content providers like Suze Randall and Alscan, JMM, Brad, Mike who vigorously protect their coyprights.
But the riff raff from the pro adult video biz does nothing. I can go get
a scene featuring any porn star you want to name in DivX,Mpg or WMV formats that rival a VHS cassette in quality, better in fact in some cases.
Mainstream entertainment is spending hundreds of millions trying to stem the tide. But porn has alot more to lose than they do even.
With music and mainstream movies, people still enjoy going to the local Blockbuster or Virgin store and buying those products, it makes them feel good to have the jewel case and artwork and the store experience is fun.
Porn doesn't have that going for it.
People want to be anonymous, would rather do anything to avoid having to walk into a dirty video store. Or
submit their name and credit card number to an online porn paysite.
mutt
Fri, 10 Aug - 19:47:47 24.112.37.86 Post #: 9785
HAHAHA Taz I am glad you noticed. We have some witty people out there.
Wait for future weeks. We have some GREAT photos for the contest!
Ok as promised, time to put your money where you mouth is.
Announcing the Oprano "Fun & Games" section... inside now have the "Caption Contest"
Every week we will have a new Photo, and invite people to post funny, witty, clever, and PITHY captions. The best ones each week will be saved, and the top caption will win a prize.
I'm thinking about buying a new digital camera for personal use. I bet a "few" people here have them. ;) I'm looking for a good quality camera that doesn't cost a fortune. The kodak DC4800 was recommended to me by a friend and looks like a nice camera. Anyone have any other suggestions?
We have been working on a fun idea to challenge all the smart asses out there. Everyone thinks they are witty, so Oprano will soon give everyone a chance to put their money where their mouth is.
Not only will there be glory of winning this weekly contest but we are also working on prize packages as well.
This weeks winner will win 2 free months of http://superpics.com leased gallaries.
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 17:55:08 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9768
Ulfie I think we have the problem solved...
I hope...
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 17:44:26 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9767
After last nights tagline fiasco is it safe to post again? LOL!
Ulfie
Fri, 10 Aug - 17:39:10 209.166.141.172 Post #: 9766
I'd like to give a shout out to Pimpcash.com for stepping up to the plate and offering an incentive to TGP2 site owners.
If you own a TGP2 site, sign up for Pimpcash, mail support@pimpcash.com with your TGP2 site's url and get 55% recurring. Way to go PimpSticky!!!
And to me this is a BIG problem right now......and i think this is a good step.
And i dont think it will stumble,people ..myself included are fed up with shitty ratios,and surfers laughing in our faces that they dont need to signup when they can whack for free anywhere anytime with all the freestuff out there.
And the reason i like this is its not like the original "New Age TGP" we all tried a couple years ago,but failed. It was based on blind links and consoles.....This isnt,it is just cutting down on whack material.
Tgp owners are the ones getting the BIG BALLS...next they will want you all to jack the surfer off and clean him up to....it is getting fucking rediculous.
Ok..back to work ;-)
Moose
Fri, 10 Aug - 16:51:09 66.74.196.106 Post #: 9762
Moose traditionally have big balls... maybe that is how he got his photo taken with Camereon Diez!
Being in the TGP trench everyday running freehosts,wich we all know is 99% TGP traffic,we have a pretty good grasp of it,and dealing with a million and a half freeloading surfers....We are eady for a change.We are working on somethings to throw in the pot. We have a webmaster database of close to 100K of TGP gallery makers using all our combined services.
I will let out more later hopefully as we get some programming issues taken care of ;-)
Anyway...i bring this as a welcome change..it is time for this to happen,and WAY overdue.And this is one of the major reason revenues are fucked right now...atleast in my corner of traffic
And i bet Mikeai with Majorhost has quite a slew of gallerymakers going away at it day after day also that can be "persuaded" ;-))) MooseGo!
Fri, 10 Aug - 15:57:25 66.74.196.106 Post #: 9753
Serge,
ONLY 32 hours, shit I'm trying to find a 48 hour day or a really good clone.
It'd be great if you could talk to the Hun, even better how about some sponsors to help support this, it's only going to benefit everyone in the long term. Taz;>))
Fri, 10 Aug - 15:53:18 216.77.247.121 Post #: 9752
Serge those are the old numbers for the mailers, I think we are up over 5,000 now...
They have all been waiting to get something... haha
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 15:50:48 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9751
Taz, I am dicussing things with Forest right now. We have some ideas on how to keep the momentum, and grow it!!
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 15:49:17 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9750
Serge,
U never have to ASK me to join a forum of YOURS!
all you need to do is tell me Where and When!
*****************
Forest,
we are in the process of sending first mailer to 3782 webmasters,
we'll include URL either now or in a week,
all depends when we mail it.
Hey Ulfie (Forest) can you post the information and list of people people who have TGP2's set up?
Some people have e-mailed me and I wanted to get it back to them.
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:40:13 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9739
yeah,
it's really funny,
they taught his right hand to shoot their heads off and they taught his left hand to repair heads
;-)))
somebody was looking for original humor stories somewhere????
contact my father,
he'll tell you the stories from his medical service with paratroopers,
the story of pilots getting food poison before take off and shitting in the middle of the flight is one of my favorit
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:39:35 63.21.132.174 Post #: 9738
HEHEHE I have a feeling I know how your father would help them out... I would help him!
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:34:44 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9737
Could your dad help them out with medicine?
***************
did I tell you that he started medical practise as a paratrooper?
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:31:07 63.21.132.174 Post #: 9736
Ahhh good point Serge - how about...
scumbag, peices of shit cockholsters. Could your dad help them out with medicine?
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:21:10 213.239.140.219 Post #: 9734
Peaches, I was watching the press conference on CSPAN. It seems as though law enforcement arrested these guys then ran the sites for about a year to "investigate". I noticed when the one guy started talking about their tracking methods, etc., he was quickly silenced by the other guys standing there (Ashcroft, postmaster general, etc.). I have a bad feeling this may end up like the previous KP cases where it comes down to law enforcement entrapping these scumbags and the scumbags go free.
I also got a chuckle out of one of the clueless reporters asking "what is a webmaster?" These are the people "educating" the masses about the Internet...very scary indeed...now when these airhead reporters and their readers/watchers hear the term "webmaster", they'll think of kiddy porn... SykkBoyFear
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:20:04 216.67.210.205 Post #: 9733
They are sicko, sucmbags.
*****************************
as a doctors son,
I would like to clarify-
if they are sick- they should be given cure, not prosecuted.
Just making sure Peaches, I was going to have to start the Pervert Anti-Definmation League.
We were going to issue C&Ds soon!
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:16:25 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9731
Oops - sorry Mike - you're 100% right! At least in MY men, "pervert" is a term of endearment :)
Peaches
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:13:19 63.147.224.5 Post #: 9730
Peaches, lets get this straight - these people who prey on children are not perverts. They are sicko, sucmbags. I am a pervert, your surfers are perverts - lets not give perverts a bad name.
:-)
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:10:36 63.100.104.31 Post #: 9729
Serge, buddy, Jenna thing is fine.
But Serge, you didn't ask about my thing. Well, the bumps are gone. MeniVideosecrets Has JennaMaxxx
Fri, 10 Aug - 14:06:16 24.218.204.233 Post #: 9728
Serge, couldn't we just work something out in trade for my bill??!! I'll post my next Alchemy score under your username ;))
MikeB - I saw a thing on TV the other day where a guy was going to schools in here in GA and showing parents how fast the perverts were hitting on their kids in "safe" kid chat rooms on AOL (it was literally seconds after they signed on). He said that there are currently FIVE people in the ENTIRE US assigned to working on this problem and nailing the guys that are arranging to meet the underaged kids. FIVE!! Geeze. Can't they just "deputize" all of us and let us take care of it? :)
I better stop - I'm going to be owing Serge big time ;))
Peaches
Fri, 10 Aug - 13:49:05 63.147.224.5 Post #: 9725
ok,
bullshit aside,
I have a very seriuos question.
From Netpond Board:
"On another note: New Instalment of NewbieRadio is almost upon on us!!!!
This one is gunna be a goody!!!
:0)
If any sponsers are looking to get HIGH visibility infront of "New" webmasters email me!! "
Dear Sponsors,
question for you:
DO YOU REALLY GETTING YOUR MONEY'S WORTH WHEN YOU ADVERTISE AT RADIO FORUMS WHICH IS DESIGNED PRIMARLY FOR NEW WEBMASTERS WITH 200 CLICKS TO SHARE BETWEEN ALL OF THEM?
basically the wether its = basically the same wether it's Mike B
Fri, 10 Aug - 13:38:12 208.201.208.51 Post #: 9723
Noga hate is a strong word
****************
it IS, Mike.
I've been doing nothing in the last 5 years but watching people interact and....
I haven't seen REAL HATE
ONCE
in this business.
Serge LittleC pays more than Gargantua Pantagruelle
Fri, 10 Aug - 13:38:05 12.89.183.6 Post #: 9722
OK, I'll stop my "Mom Rant" for the day - thanks for letting me vent :))
I think everyone will agree that stopping these people could not come soon enough. The process is basically the wether its a hacker or KP scum. It starts out like this:
FBI notified.
FBI receives hundreds of notices each day of illegal content,
not enough agents assigned to handle each one immediately.
FBI reviews notice to see if field agent should do initial investigation.
FBI agent does initial investigation - determines wether or not to open case.
FBI agents can be working on 5-10 cases at any given time.
Send notices to ISPs (or similar parties) telling them to preserve records.
Investigate, determine what information you'll need from the ISPs.
Write subpoenas to gather info from ISPs.
Confer with US District Attorney about case.
Adjust subpoenas based on DA's feedback.
Get subpoena approved.
Send subpoena to ISP.
Wait.
Get info back from ISP.
Compare records from ISP to records from other subpoenas sent to phone companies, etc.
Background check on subjects...include family members and associates.
Now that we have reason to believe these people are the people behind.
the illegal activity...next step.
Get authorization for agent(s) to go undercover as website member and/or webmaster
OK'd, probably with some restrictions.
Go undercover, gather info on site, content, communications, etc.
Log all images, emails, pages, text, individually as evidence.
Determine who does cc processing for said site, get subpoena for those records.
DA will probably bring up privacy issues, now have to prove that it is reasonable
to believe all members of site are there for illegal content before agent can
get records from processor. Repeat all above steps for each subscriber.
Fri, 10 Aug - 13:35:19 208.201.208.51 Post #: 9720
That should keep them busy, though I'm hoping that they have some sort of access records so they only nab people who were obvious KP enthusiasts. Otherwise it could turn into a mess.
ThrobX
*************
ThrobX,
in Russia those 250,000 would be happily building bridges, cutting wood and do other good things....
MikeB - I know the process needs to be legit, but as opposed to hackers, lives were literally being completely destroyed during that 2 year period. I want someone to tell me what steps the government is taking to take care of these kids that were abused while they "made their case". I know there's no easy answer and as someone stated on another board, it is a double edged sword. Just makes me sick all around :(
MikeAI - they mentioned the names of the sites in the Atlanta Paper but trying various .com variations, most were in other countries with one being in GA (!!!) Their main site is landslide.com
Here's some more info: it LOOKS like they were arrested more than a year ago and since that time the FBI's been nailing others instead of just letting it sit for 2 years - I sure hope so, but from what I can tell, people were still submitting pictures/videos during that tiem...I think if these sites had 250,000 subscribers, then 250,000 people need to be in jail.
"I was also curious as to which site it was, who was doing their hosting, their billing and other things. Of course the newsreports never provide this information."
Mike, if my memory serves me correctly, Landslide was an AVS. According to what I've read, the KP sites were run by a band of webmasters in Russia and Indonesia. Landslide apparantly did nothing to discourage them, never cut them off. So that was their "niche."
The reports I've read said that they have membership records of around 250,000 members. That should keep them busy, though I'm hoping that they have some sort of access records so they only nab people who were obvious KP enthusiasts. Otherwise it could turn into a mess.
I will not charge you to post-
I cannot be anyones bitch
*****************************
hmmmmmmm.........
you see, we are looking for a bitch and you definatelly passed the requirements, but I clearly see that
the stumbling block is "anyones"
I can't go around it
;-((((
and you'll be upset that you would NEVER beat me at the pool in my house.....
Forest, did you mean 'you' as in the golfers
or 'you' as in me?
hee hee MeniJenna Cash
Fri, 10 Aug - 13:07:47 24.218.204.233 Post #: 9705
Serge I guess JoeE sent a woman to do a man's job??
====================================================
I got balls said the Queen and thats why Im King and ready to do
mans job :-)) But I post amongst
all pussies, so its win win situo
:-)
Welp, 45, middle age ppl round up.
I will not charge you to post-
I cannot be anyones bitch, not
even FM's, but I can be persuaded
to be somebody's posting bot.
FM is really a nice guy, I was too
much lesbian for him, he changed
once I beat him at a pool game in
his own house, he hit his wrong
ball into the hole, a common
business mistake.
Serge I guess JoeE sent a woman to do a man's job??
*********************
I dunno.....
Kim asked me politely if she can post news announcement,
I politelly said yes,
I asked politely if Jim's proggy better than hers and
she respectfully nods in silence
I have been thinking about the KP ring out in Texas, and also wondered why it took so many years. I also wonder why it only netted 100 people.
Hell I bet we could go find 1,000 - 10,000 sicko pedofiles out there. They could jsut go to the old databases of CCbill!
I was also curious as to which site it was, who was doing their hosting, their billing and other things. Of course the newsreports never provide this information.
I guess the good news is, a 100 scumbags are out of the way - bad news is there are thousands more waiting to jump in their place.
Mike AI
Fri, 10 Aug - 13:00:11 66.21.168.187 Post #: 9702
Mike B,
from CE??????
be careful,
Ron doesn't like CE people posting here....