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Please notice, I have not used the "E" name in any of my referances to whores, lawyers, cockholsters, ball sucking, scrotum scrubbing refernces.

Infact I have not even muttered the "E" name in a week - not to mention I have a macro set up on my computer that anytime I type that combination of letters for the "E" name my computer reboots itself.


Mike AI ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:46:40 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8900


There are some content producers that don't allow their stuff on tgp's. Don't remember who they were but I've seen it in the terms before.




Ulfie Women, golf, prizes, LittleC, what else do you want?
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:45:37 209.166.141.124 Post #: 8899


oohhh mmaaaannnn

here we go with Evan again...

Opps can i say that with out getting a c&d?
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:41:50 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8898


Mike...I see an inherent problem in their case already.

What are they going to do when we place a lawyer and a whore side by side on one end of the courtroom, and a guy, oh, lets call the guy Evan, on the other side of the courtroom with a hundred dollar bill wrapped around his cock and the lawyer gets their first? Their goes their entire case!

The above is PARODY! The EVAN referred to above is a fictional character. Any resemblance to any real EVAN, either living or dead, is just common sense.


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,Make the Money your Traffic Deserves with Join 4 Free!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:39:18 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8897




JMM I just got an e-mail, it turns out that the UHUNA* happens to be represented by Cambria. What a small world. They sent out a C&D, for us to stop referanceing Ugly Hookers, and of course compairing Lawyers to whores. They think this is defaming their good names and professions.




* Ugly Hooker Union Of North America
Mike AI ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:35:56 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8896


KK....Do you see how Mike did that...."based on JMM's Ugly Hooker Syndrome"...you see that??

Now KK in future posts, if you are going to use my property, I expect either a royalty payment or a credit given.

I don't sit here and think up this shit for nothing you know!


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,Make the Money your Traffic Deserves with Join 4 Free!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:33:20 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8895


KK that is true, the sponsors could have control. However, we have sponsors who eagerly support password sites.

Based on JMM's Ugly Hooker scenario there will always be another program willing to do whatever to get traffic. Especially programs who have no problem shaving, cross billing on credit cards, spamming, etc... etc...

Though I am willing to try - I think DJ is right.... too many greedy cockholsters in this indsutry that cannot see paste their own small dicks who are always willing to exploit the areas that others try to avoid.




Mike AI ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:30:23 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8894


KK-
Exactly.

My pearl still stands...

"The rich will get richer while the poor get...
DICK."
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:28:37 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8893


KK-
Exactly as well.

My pearl still stands...

"The rich will get richer while the poor get...
DICK."
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:28:24 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8892


1400 years ISNT long enough
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:26:22 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8891


Ah well Mike you know the line...

Content may be king but traffic rules.

There's a real easy way to implement anything in this business, most people just refuse to see it though.

Start at the top and the shit will roll downhill.

You want to change something? Tell the sponsors to put it in their terms. Do it this way or we don't pay. Doesn't get any more simple than that.

Of course that ugly hooker syndrome comes right back into play again since if sponsor A says no more junk, sponsors B, C and D will probably line up to take it.

The resellers are no more to blame than the sponsors, probably less in the end. They've been babied and coddled and taught that they can run a business with no investment other than their time. What isn't given to them they learn to steal.

And considering this fact, they've been led like sheep to the slaughter, to an abbatoir where people like the Hun can tell them what sponsors to use and who they can't use in order to get listed to get that traffic, it's pretty fucking ridiculous.

Course that would all change if the sponsors refused to pay on traffic that came from the Hun or any other tgp/link list/etc owner that was doing this crap. The poor little lamb resellers don't know how to get traffic without these people and they are blind to the fact that people like the Hun are only looking out for number one when they make these bullshit rules.


KK got traffic?
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:23:32 64.38.194.18 Post #: 8890


Forest no problem man glad to help

It seems like a good concept i will try it out a bit too when we got some time freed up

in other news

I just saw on tv some sap got 1400 years in jail for running a kiddy porn site thats some serious time . . .

PimpSticky Good Paysites!, Bad PimpSticky!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:23:26 216.61.140.186 Post #: 8889


Enforcer-
"The Answer will be no initially until they get enough and plenty nuff softcore content to go around that is worth buying. "

But this is a can of worms in itself. The Virtual prostitutes will kick in with there amateur content. Tis a doomed conundra...
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:23:05 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8888


LAMike,

You might wish to contact Scotland Yard, they have a new National High Tech Crime Squad that will deal with this, needless to say they take a very dim view of fraud on the Net...

http://www.met.police.uk/computercrime/index.htm


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Tue, 07 Aug - 16:22:41 194.72.9.37 Post #: 8887


We will see where the Actual interests lie

again anyone Interested e-mail me!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:22:02 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8886


That would be really cool Forrest. Should be interesting to see if a large traffic type takes you up on it...



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Tue, 07 Aug - 16:21:09 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8885


I just wanted to stop and thank

Pimp Sticky

He is the one that explained the Whole tgp2 concept to me...

Yoooo Pimp
Thanx Man!!!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:20:25 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8884


Sad prediction - TGP2 will go down in flames...

Wish it wouldn't, but it will...

Diamond Jim Only click here if you want to be embarrased at your graphic abilities
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:19:15 24.177.208.229 Post #: 8883


Enforcer, exactly

if I was a content provider, I'd just want to move content...I wouldn't care about paysite retentions, closing rations, etc.
because the webmasters pay the same for my content regardless of if it's a paysite owner, a free site owner, etc.
SykkBoy we're too stupid to shave
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:18:27 216.67.210.115 Post #: 8882


Hooookkeerrr???

Your a Hooookkkeeerrrrr???

and I thought i was doing really welll....
Dudley Moore "Arthur"
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

had me on the floor still one of my Favorite movies
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:18:05 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8881


Enforcer..

I Agree....

I am looking for a group who would want to Beta Test this idea In a bigggg way.....Lets see what will it cost us???
Not more than we are spending now on tgp

Anyone interested in Trying this out e-mail me
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Lions and Tigers and Hookers OHHH MYYY
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:15:43 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8880


Once again content providers must start setting up there T&C's to disallow the publishing of the content for free if it is under certain guidlines of Hardcore/Softcore etc.
------------------------------

Ok... I have one question here for you? How are you gonna convince content producers to cut into their bottom line?


TheEnforcer Making Bank- 100+ sites to satisfy all you promotional needs!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:15:20 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8879


Hmmmm... I would think IF you can prove to a big TGP that by changing their format even if others don't that it will help their bottom line they would do it.


TheEnforcer Start making Bank today!
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:12:01 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8878


I agree JMM, damned ugly hookers!!!

I hope we do not get C&Ds from UHUNA*.




* Ugly Hooker Union Of North America


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Tue, 07 Aug - 16:11:06 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8877


The reason that John Q Public pays the ugly hooker on the corner $10 to suck his dick is because the ugly hooker on the corner will suck his dick for $10. If the ugly hooker on the corner says, sorry, it's now $500 for me to suck your dick and you can't cum in my mouth either..then the guy will just drive over to the next ugly hooker who will suck his dick for $10.

In the content business, behind every ugly hooker, there is another ugly hooker.

The battle wont be waged by the content providers, I can promise you that.


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Tue, 07 Aug - 16:08:05 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8876


No doubt Ulfie, the low barriers to entry has caused this indsustry fits.

I think TGP2 should not necessarily be focusing on whether content is being used legally - that is a webmaster/content provider issue.

I think TGP2 should limit the amount of free content, allow no juicy content, restrict file size ( so there is not much quality content)and allow more banners and advertising...

Basscily make it more friendly for webmasters trying to make money and not for cheap surfers trying to get things for free!


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Tue, 07 Aug - 16:08:00 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8875


Content providers have to get it together.
Not the TGP'ers.
TGP's are founded by uping the ante for poster's one by one.
If one or even several make a change they ween them selves out of the game as someone replaces them for the free stuff in demand.
It happens and has happened, and will happen always.
TGP's are a staple diet to our industry.
It is clear they need help but are afraid to step out of there own circles.

Content providers have to make a move and the real qustion will be if it is worth the money to them. The Answer will be no initially until they get enough and plenty nuff softcore content to go around that is worth buying.
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:01:55 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8874


With regards to the cheaters, that's why we're sticking with partnership program...we were going to roll out a PPS, but I don't want to have to play babysitter ;)

Alien, the problem with T&C's like that is policing...it's hard enough to track down copyright thieves, much less who all is using the content counter to the license

Mike, yup...
SykkBoy How dark do you want it?
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:01:27 216.67.210.115 Post #: 8873


OK, let me play devil's advocate here. Let's say you have free hosting, free content from your sponser, you can submit to the hun and get 100000 hits and a couple of signups. Furthermore, you are living in a dorm that your parents are paying for and your only real goal in life is to earn some beer money. Not a bad deal, is it? There are no barriers to entry in that model. No downside equals no responsibility. That's a BIG problem in this biz.


Ulfie Women, golf, prizes, LittleC, what else do you want?
Tue, 07 Aug - 16:01:25 209.166.141.124 Post #: 8872


The trick will be to get an Honest group who will be willing to go the long haul with this idea.....
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) By FAR the best live feed on the net..
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:58:06 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8871


TGP traffic is massive and has been conditioned not to pay.
We all know that by now.

We have to ask our selves do we really want 50k a day of useless traffic?

My answer is no on the premisis of bandwidth issues.

Once again content providers must start setting up there T&C's to disallow the publishing of the content for free if it is under certain guidlines of Hardcore/Softcore etc.
This cuts from the head a problem.
Just doing that deas set a new agenda for piracy on forieng servers and so on and so forth but its a an attempt none the less that would help.

ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:57:01 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8870


Sykk that is why I think we might have to defeat them first, then once they are staggering - switch over to the TGP2 type format.

Then webmasters hopefully would see a better return on their bandwidth, better conversion, and less porn out there.

Of course with some many companies shaving or playing games - it might not help conversions to much.
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:52:11 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8869


Mike,
I agree wholeheartedly, but convincing the counter watchers is a whole nother obstacle ;))
SykkBoy have you ever wondered why it's evil taht you're attracted to
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:49:33 216.67.210.115 Post #: 8868


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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:44:39 206.152.99.214 Post #: 8867


the tagline said

"dentists have the highest rate of suicides among professionals which only shows that at least they have a conscience about causing people a lot of pain, grief and anguish... AND THEN BILLING EVERYONE UP THE ASS FOR IT"

JR .
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:44:10 195.46.169.221 Post #: 8866


Whooa JR you just broke the board too with the worlds longest hyper-link!

Tough day for you!

ahaha
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:44:03 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8865


the reason the big TGP's have power is...they have traffic...traffic = power
___________


Sykk I understand this, but there is another part of the equation. If the big TGPs had no one submiting to them, they would have no content, and without content they would have no traffic.

I beleive KK has been preaching this for years...

Webmasters are going to have to break the chain, and start fresh.

It is about money going into pockets, not circlejerking same grabage traffic.


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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:42:46 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8864


Damn Fold,

That's some serious instructions there. And I was trying to be all cool and geeky sounding....

MikeAI,

So far, Matt and I have sampled 16 strip clubs and have interviewed over 247 dancers. We are hard at work trying to find a replacement for the Gold Club, but we both feel that a round of second interviews will be necessary. I will keep you posted. Wish us luck! :-)


VooMan NationalNet - Bandwidth AND Strippers! :-)
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:42:13 216.151.155.70 Post #: 8863


thanks guys!! i got it.

i change one of the files in my e-mail program on accident and then the e-mail client stopped working. i was starting to panic.

thanks again.
JR the best lawyers i have, i would never be friends with.... never the less Dentists have the highest suicide rate among professionals.... which shows they have a conscience about c
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:41:16 195.46.169.221 Post #: 8862


The New Age TGP's were actually a bit too webmaster friendly...heheheh

the reason the big TGP's have power is...they have traffic...traffic = power

too many people are more concerned with watching their counter spin then watching their bank account grow..I know because I used to be one of those types heheheh
SykkBoy Got Goth? Get Goth!
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:40:10 216.67.210.115 Post #: 8861


Forst that is the idea. It would be hard to police, and hard to compete with other traditional TGPs in getting surfer to stop by and visit...

Original TGPs might have to be killed first.


Mike AI ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:37:12 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8860


Peaches I hope Cambria at least reads what he signs... I do not think he is that bad. I am sure he chuckled as well...

Nevertheless he did sign it!!
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:35:41 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8859


So, Mike - think I have a future in writing "Lawyer Erotica"? ;)) Yes, you sign it, you own it - but I wonder if he even knows he signed it! IOW, he may not be as dense as the act makes him out to be - just ready to trade his name for $$$ :)

Dragon King tried a "screw the surfer" TGP but it was quite a long time ago - maybe 2 years (which is 20 years in internet porn time...). Hopefully the time has now arrived to make this work.
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:33:51 63.147.224.5 Post #: 8858


MikeAI: Yea they are driving me nuts. We spend sooo much time weekly scoping out cheaters. What ever happened to making an honest buck? lol


LAMike Hot New SilverCash sites!!!
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:33:06 64.170.38.210 Post #: 8857


JR-
Very Astute.
Yes the Iran/Contra thing is a peice of history.

There is always a grey line. But even on non-recollection he admited guilt to the goings on.
Thats was merely my point. Legal peopple find loop holes ot can play on the minds surrounding a proceeding. Thus the lawyers that represented had to play the card on the people in the hearings and ask along the lines this...
"You want really want imprison a president of the United States whom can not recall certain actions of his cabinet?"
Thus playing dumb works very well in the legal system.
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:33:00 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8856


MikeAI,

If a large enough group of us do this and trade traffic it should take off as reve increases and people se we are converting
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:32:26 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8855


or....try this in 2000 NT Pro
.......................
Open Folder Options in Control Panel.
Click the File Types tab.
Click the file type that you want to change.
Click Advanced.
If necessary, modify the description of the file type, and click Change Icon to change the icon for the file type.
In Actions, click the command that you want to modify, and then click Edit, Remove, or Set Default. Or click New to add a new command to the list in Actions.
Repeat step 6 for as many actions as you want to modify for this file type.
Notes

To open a Control Panel item, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click the appropriate icon. Or, in Windows Explorer, click Tools, and then click Folder Options.
After you specify a new action, it appears on the shortcut menu when you right-click a file with the associated extension.
In the Add New File Type dialog box, you can click Browse to find the program you want to specify for the action.
All files that have the file name extension use the icon and commands that you define.

Fold National Net Rocks
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:31:19 207.90.73.17 Post #: 8854


VooMan you are so helpful!!

How is that search going in Hotlanta for the strippers?
MIke AI ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:30:57 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8853


Hey JR,

In Windows 2000, all you need to do is open windows explorer and click on the tools button, select folder options, and then click the file types tab. Select the file extension you're having trouble with and then click the change button. That will allow you to change the program associated with a particular file type... Hope that helps. :-)

Andrew


VooMan NationalNet
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:27:23 216.151.155.70 Post #: 8852


Not many people do accept responsiblity for breaking the law JR. :-)
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:25:55 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8851


He did not evade the heat and stated that he was ultimatly responsible for the actions of the people below him on his cabinet.
----------------------------------
Alien

though i consider myself to be a little more right than left... i feel it is fair to point out that during the "Iran/Contra" hearings, he often denied remembering anything and that was his frequent main line of defense.

so i think it could be questioned whether or not he was accepting responsibility for anything.


JR once you pay a retainer... you are fucked.
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:25:05 195.46.169.221 Post #: 8850


Enforcer, great minds think alike. LOL


Ulfie Women, golf, prizes, LittleC, what else do you want?
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:23:00 209.166.141.124 Post #: 8849


Ulfie and Enforcer - what is needed to get the RGP2 off the ground is an economic motive. People will do what is best for putting $$ in their pockets. IF TGPs conversions have gone in the tank, then maybe TGP2 will have a chance.


I never understood how the big TGP people had the power anyone - that was a strange roll reversal.




Mike AI ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:22:38 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8848


Peaches that is a good story. Now doubt Cambria has associates who handle the peon work - but once you put your name down on it, well it is your work.


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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:21:00 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8847


You guys must think I am a foriegner or something the way I type and mispell...
I am sorry for not reading every typed word and phrase correctly before posting.
I am just stupid American with a highschool diploma...
Thank god I was not givin higher learning education.
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:20:30 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8846


the first attempt at the TGP2's was NewAge TGP's or something like that...it was a dreadful failure ;)

this is better as it loosens rules up but still allows enough to get bookmarkers (which TGP live or die by)

As for that gallery Forest, I haven't played TGP's in awhile, but those were the types of galleries I used to submit anyways ;)) but I am glad to see that there are galleries like that and not 20 hardcore pics with two lone banners...

SykkBoy Darkest Of The Dark
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:19:49 216.67.210.115 Post #: 8845


can someone help me?

suppose you tried to open a file in Windows2000 and there was no application assosiated with it... so you chose one... and fucked everything up.

how can you "undo" or "unassociate" that file type with that application? i do not see a way to do it and i cannot find information about it in the help files.

please.... please... please...

JR the only legal precedence that matters... is that the lawyers win everytime.
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:18:20 195.46.169.221 Post #: 8844


Mike, this is how different times can make something work. I wish I could remember whose idea this was but it was way ahead of its' time. The folks that build hundreds of tgp galleries every day are looking at HORRIBLE conversion rates right now. They were willing to live with 1:1500 off of tgp traffic. Now, some people I know are at 1:10000 so they are looking for new ways to earn money. That's why this thing may work. Personally, I have no interest in runnig a tgp, seems like work to me but I liked this idea.


Ulfie Women, golf, prizes, LittleC, what else do you want?
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:17:36 209.166.141.124 Post #: 8843


A rule to life...
PAY ATTENTION.
Not more, not less. A philosophy to to and die by.

Ronald Reagon for example claimed he was responsible for the actions of his underlings as he was the highest power above them. He did not evade the heat and stated that he was ultimatly responsible for the actions of the people below him on his cabinet.
This a brave thing.
I am not saying Ronald Reagon was the best president but clearly one that understands the rules of leadership.
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:16:33 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8842


The TGP2 thing was tried before and failed BUT these are different times so it may have a chance. I certainly hope so.

It certainly would help conversions and get them used to not seeing so much free stuff...


TheEnforcer Shouldn't you be Making Bank??
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:16:16 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8841


LA Mike that is some scary shit. Hell these guys might be collecting data on their paysites ( cc information) and the nusing it to join other people sites who pay out per sign up.

Major Fraud....


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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:10:00 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8840


Regarding Cambria - when I got my divorce, I had one of the top lawyers in Atlanta handling it (hey, my mom was footing the bill - why not? Hehehe). I can tell you that he personally dealt with less than 30% of the entire process. In addition to having a good lawyer, I wanted my Ex's attorney to pee in his pants when he saw the letterhead (and it worked!). I would suspect that someone who is the attorney for Flynt has peons that handle C&D's this minuscule in importance. Granted, he DID sign his name to it, but from experience, $$$ in the pocket will get a attorney with a "name"'s signature on just about anything, whether or not they necessarily agree with the content ;)
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:08:57 63.147.224.5 Post #: 8839


Forest, we would definately help you out anyway we can. It is important to do more then sit on the side lines and make comments.

We could set up a Message Forum for you, of course some advertising, and other things.
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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:08:54 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8838


Are these guys in you're program? If so delete them now. They we're in our program and can send as many signups a day as they want. They have huge collection of good credit card numbers. All 5 accounts we're sending the exact same hits and signups so it was pretty easy to detect.

Their signups all came from these domains
muchtoohot.com/protected/
megacrall.com/protected/
puremegafun.com/protected/
puresexy.com/protected/
truenice.com/protected/

Notice they all use protected instead of members.

All of these guys except one are in the U.K.
The other is in sweeden.

Here are their names:
Mohammad Taha
Constantin-Alexandru Tabacu
Daniel Crall
Ion Petrescu

All of their sites are setup to look like paysites, and are setup with IBILL. If you join their sites IBILL will add you're password to their database but it wont work so you cant get in.

If you have them in you're program delete them now!



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LAMike Silver Cash
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:05:34 64.170.38.210 Post #: 8837


MikeAI,

When the time comes...and there will come a time when i ask you for a favor (best Godfather Voice)

for help with this tgp2

I LOVE the idea........

with My big mouth maybe we can get something going with it
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi
Tue, 07 Aug - 15:01:40 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8836


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Tue, 07 Aug - 15:01:26 24.176.66.99 Post #: 8835


Well lets face it Alien - Lawyers are expensive whores. Cambria ( gosh I can see the C&D he is typing up now) is just a very expensive, and highly reveared whore...

But after the C&Ds he sent, he is definately a whore...


Mike AI ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:59:58 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8834


Mike, JMM
This has been my point from the very beginning.
It was not the C&D that was important.
It was the lawyer behind it. I am surprised it took this long for people to realise exactly the color of money.
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:54:04 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8833


Ulfie it would take a major effort from a lot of people to get it going. It is a matter of timing, like so many things.

If this is something people want to try, Oprano would help out anyway it can.


Mike AI ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:51:35 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8832


Forest,
That is exactly the way it should be. Mostly softcore thumbs and a few lame pics. Make them pay for the good stuff. With so many huge tgp's already out there it may be hard to make this work. Somebody at Netpond tried this a few years ago and it didn't work well. Something like anything goes tgp or something. Might work better if there are 100's of them to trade traffic though. Just thinking out loud here. ;)


Ulfie Women, golf, prizes, LittleC, what else do you want?
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:48:22 209.166.141.124 Post #: 8831


hahaha yeah you think they are Random - we are experimenting with "Smart Tagline Technology" hahaha

Cambria might not stand with you, but I bet Larry Flynt would. Hell he has been called every name in the book, I don't think he has sent out C&Ds for it.


Mike AI ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:42:19 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8830


JMM I think that Mr. Cambria has lost some standing by sending out those C&Ds. By signing his name to them, he is no longer standing with the First Amendement, but against it.

It just goes to show that most Lawyers will do anything for money. Hell I imagine that for enough money Cambria would run around a Vegas hotel nude, screaming he is a "cockhoslter" at the top of his lungs.

Should we start a collection?
Mike AI ,Make the Money your Traffic Deserves with Join 4 Free!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:40:54 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8829


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mike, I think your random tagline generator might have a mind of it's own, look at my last post!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:38:29 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8828


Forest...peeing in a national mens magazine you ask?

Well, lets look at the only issue I have of Hustler magazine, represented by Mr. Paul Cambria, PROTECTOR OF FREE SPEECH!

Page 48 we have the start of a pictorial featuring Elizabeth, The organic orgasmic.

On pages 52 and 53 we have 3 pictures of Elizabeth fucking herself with a cucumber. And on page 54 and 55 we have a two page spread of Elizabeth with her legs spread wide and a golden fountain of piss spewing forth out of her pussy.

The above is a PARODY and not to be taken seriously! Oh, the pictures are there and are just as I described them, the part that you should not take seriously is the part about Mr. Cambria being the PROTECTOR OF FREE SPEECH, therein lies the parody.


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:36:52 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8827


http://www.megaxxx.net/tgp/r18-3/tgp2.html

Check this out....is this the FUTURE of free porn?/?

I hope so
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi
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Forest I think that would be a tremendous goal to get to sites like this.

If anyone has seen my Amateur sites, I give away nothing - not even a boob shot for free. ( for the most part, I have 400+ sites, I am sure someone could find a tit and call me a lair! haha)


Mike AI ,Make the Money your Traffic Deserves with Join 4 Free!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:36:44 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8826


JMM you make excellent points, and your examples are flawless.

I beleive that certain people need to thicken their hides - especially when they are holding themsleves out to be "Indsutry Leaders" and of course "Celebrities".

People with Radio shows will get criticized no matter what. Look at poor Richard Gere who is synonymous with sticking Gerbils up his ass. HE has not sued anyone.

Bottom line is, one must take the good and the bad when stepping into the public forum. IF you cannot handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.


MIke AI ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:34:18 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8825


Meni,,

Get your White Sox to take the test...

Bet they score a 90%
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:23:25 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8824


10 Seconds on a T1!

The idea is already dead.
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:15:09 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8823


Meni where is that test.
These days I am uncertain:P!
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:10:39 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8822


Meni,

and THATS news TOO U?????
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:10:27 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8821


Alien,

I get it in 10 secs
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:09:46 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8820


I took that gay test and here are my results:

You are 64% GAY!

That's gayer than average for someone of your gender and supposed orientation. The typical straight guy is only 38% gay!

hee hee
Meni Jenna Cash
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:09:27 24.218.204.233 Post #: 8819


Forest-
It's not the future if the page hangs for 30 seconds or more...
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:08:35 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8818


http://www.megaxxx.net/tgp/r18-3/tgp2.html

Check this out....is this the FUTURE of free porn?/?

I hope so
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:07:01 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8817


Enforcer,,

we are laughing INSIDE!!!

=)
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug 2001 01:44:18 - IP: 216.201.0.34 - Post # 8811
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Ahhh.. ok.. :))


TheEnforcer Making Bank has never been so easy!
Tue, 07 Aug - 14:03:57 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8816


HUmm...
Now if Cambria represents
XPAYS and Hustler and an entire armful of adult companies. Does that mean that XPAYS can not sue Hustler or vice versa?
Whats the rules of representation in regards to that sorta scenerio?
Both would have the guy on retainer but there's a catch on that.


ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:54:00 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8815


Sure Brad, grab a copy of Hustler, represented I believe by Mr. Paul Cambria, and pry open the stuck together pages and have a ball!

Here is an interesting tidbit on page 9. Damn, I didnt even know Hustler went up to page 9! The curse of premature ejaculation!

Here is the latest issue of O, Oprahs magazine. Mr. Cambria's client, in an obvious literary review calls it a steaming brick. The cover has an african american woman on her knees spreading her asshole wide for the camera, I guess that must be Oprah, I didnt know she did porn. Mr. Cambria's client thinks that the women who read O are wretched, unhappy chicks in search of spiritual wealth and suggests they meet feel better if they shut that black asshole up (obviously referring to Oprah as depicted on the cover) instead of praying into it.

HAHAHAHA, Oh wait. I am sorry. Its not O magazine, its Ass O magazine, it just looks exacly like O magazine. And there is that disclaimer. I am sorry, ignore the above, its a PARODY. Not to be taken seriously. No such magazine exists.

Parody is my new favorite word. What a wonderful sense of freedom I now have knowing that the word PARODY exists. I called my friend George Castanza who even made the word better for me.

PARODY. Pair of D's. Like a pair of D cup tits. MMMMMMMMMMMMM, D cup tits. PARODY has opened my eyes to a whole new world. Let's see, with PARODY, I can say whatever I want about anyone (Evan) and I am covered! And then, with George's explanation of PARODY, I can squeeze them together and stick my dick in between them and fuck them and then blow a load all over the PARODY bitches face.

MMMMMMM, PARODY, what have I done without your for so long?


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,Get Killer Conversions with Hustler.com!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:47:23 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8814



Tough crowd ...tough crowd kid....I tell ya I get no respect.....no respect at all......
Yesterday I went to see my doctor, Dr. Vinnie Boombatz, I told him "Doctor, every morning when I get up and look in the mirror...I feel like
throwing up; What's wrong with me?" He said..."I don't know but your eyesight is perfect" ......I told ya
I get no respect at all
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Tue, 07 Aug - 13:46:43 24.112.37.86 Post #: 8813


Well here is something to digest as well.
CEN is not on my favorite sponsor list but...
They have a very very sweet T&C of Membership. Alien
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Nobody likes the leaders;-)))
maybe I meant liters;-)) Whatever..

Netmanagement manages CEN's TCG, Iverifications SexCheck, and not sure which company owns http://www.emailbucks.com but JB and I manage that one also:=)

On a serious note we have changed the wash on our credit card initial
applications and the conversions
are NOTICEABLY up across the board.

Check it out or you are wasting traffic and $$$$ Alien;-)))

Need traffic email me joee@netmgt.com

Thanks and appreciate all opinions,however I trust our legal team including Steve Workman and attorneys and lobbyists in DC;-))

More $$$ making programs coming this week.. http://www.lovelines.com
and ?????? ;-))
joee The BEst Converting Sites Just Added-Plus I Changed The Wash On Credit Cards And We have %27 More Initial Approvals:=))
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:45:27 216.10.45.29 Post #: 8812


Enforcer,,

we are laughing INSIDE!!!

=)
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:44:18 216.201.0.34 Post #: 8811


Where Don Lepri when ya need em...
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:40:52 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8810


Boy.. and here I thought the lobster tasting comment below would get a few laughs.....

:-((


TheEnforcer Shouldn't you be Making Bank?
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:36:55 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8809


Jeff, if you need any help let me know. My office is a wreck today as I am getting new furniture and its impossible to do any real work!
Brad Shaw Free week of video feeds, no bs
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:33:06 65.65.84.81 Post #: 8808


Oh gee, here on page 7 is some interesting reading.

Let's see.

We have an ad for a new product called CRAM, Butter-Flavor Cram Fisting Spray which depicts a woman on her knees with a guys arm up her ass. The can of CRAM, is really a can of PAM, with the word CRAM placed in the same font and color that the word PAM used to appear. I am sure that Mr. Cambria's client checked with the makers of PAM before printing such a wonderful parody. Of course, in small print off to the side it says that the makers of pam had no hand in this parody (get it? no hand? you cant see the hand because it is up the bitches ass) and that no such product exists and that the ad is not to be taken seriously. I see they are covered.

So let me ask a legal question Mike...if I post a picture of Evan sucking a huge horse cock and then in really small print say that Evan does not suck horse cock and that the picture is a parody and not to be taken seriously, am I ok with that?

Oh, here is another wonderful ad for I CANT BELIEVE ITS NUT BUTTER. A topless brunette squirting cum from a container that is really from I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT BUTTER with a penis spout. I wonder how the folks who make I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT BUTTER feel about this. Oh wait, I am sorry, it doesnt fucking matter what they feel about it, there in small print it says PARODY, not to be taken seriously, no such product exists. Well, who the fuck cares as long as we have that fine print to cover our asses, right Mr. Cambria???

Oh wait, here is another. Bobby Knight, "prone to childish fits of rage", is endorsing an anti disorderly anxiety disorder pill. Wow, Bobby, how much did you get paid for this endorsement? Oh wait bobby, never mind, I can see by the fine print that it is a parody. No such pill exists! CELEBRITY HOTHEAD STRIPPED ONTO OUR MODELS BODY..the disclaimer goes on and suggests that you cut out the ad and shove it up your doctors ass. How nice. I am sure bobby is proud to be a part of your clients little prank Mr. Cambria.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

Enough with this bullshit from this wannabe schoolyard bully. Now that I understand about disclaimers I need to know if you can adjust the script Mike so that we can have different font sizes so that I can put in my discalimer on all my posts. Please get back to me on this.

In the meatime, I will be busy cutting Evans head out of that picture of him smoking weed and pasting it on some pictures of some guy taking it up the ass from a horse..of course make sure you set your resolution on your monitor appropriately so that you can read my fucking disclaimer.


JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:29:16 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8807


Mike I would absolutely love it if you would call me up and leave me nasty voicemails.

It would be a great excuse for Todd to send me more of his GREAT sex toys!
Tonda Needs Feeds? One week free no bs!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:24:30 208.188.62.106 Post #: 8806


-JMM]

Spoken like a pro below:P
ALIEN SINCITY
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:22:51 64.174.156.146 Post #: 8805


No Mike...it would be cannabilism if the victim were a lawyer.

Ya know, I have been thinking a lot about this whole situation with Evan and XPAYS, and Paul Cambria and how fucking ridiculous it is that a lawyer like Cambria would send out a letter like you received.

So I dug out the only issue of Hustler that I have, December 2000, pried open the stuck together pages to page 5 (it doesnt take me long, I usually dont make it past page 5 or 6 so the early pages are usually the ones stuck together) and read from the asshole of the month column. December's asshole of the month is Lisa Boscola, some senator or congresswomen who apparently has a drinking problem.

I quote:

"If State Senator Lisa Boscola was the type of bottoms-up party gal who is satisfied to toss back a few stiff shooters, shut up, give rimjobs all around and go home, then why not say cheers and buy her a St. ides?"

End quote.

GIVE RIMJOBS ALL AROUND???

Now I am wondering if Hustler, Paul Cambria's client, has evidence of this State Senator giving anyone a rim job. They must, or would this not be libelous? Injurious? Manifestly Defamatory?

If a comment about a spamming porn mogul sucking a cock now and then hurts his business, do you think that maybe a comment about a state senator giving rimjobs might cause her a problem or two in trying to carry out her duties?

If Mike or John or Brad stating that Evan sucks cock and smokes crack makes it more difficult for Evan to harvest email addresses and send unwanted porn solicitations to children and others who don't want to receive his messages, do you think that the false image of Ms. Boscola on her knees with her tounge up some guys asshole might make it more difficult for her to legislate?

Cuddles, it appears that you are the one that has the most sense in this matter. Your statemnent speaks volumes.




JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) ,Make the Money your Traffic Deserves with Join 4 Free!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:14:06 4.34.164.23 Post #: 8804


I swam with sharks in belize, I am one with the sharks.


Brad Shaw Deep Oral Girls, Check it out
Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:52:36 - IP: 65.65.84.81 - Post # 8790
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Next time you'll probably end up as one with the shark literally! Right in the belly!

MMM yummy.. lobster tasting human!!

:))




Jaws making Bank- we don't like sharks but we do love whales!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:13:43 216.183.254.20 Post #: 8803


Forest in Hustler they have peeing pictures all the time - I think some in Penthouse too.

Which brings me to JMM's question, when did peeing become erotic?


Forest there are NO national standards in dealing with pornography - only KP.


MIke AI ,$50 Per Active Member!
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:12:22 63.100.104.31 Post #: 8802


KK,
I'm sitting here,waiting for my phone to ring.
Nickatilynx this program is owned by a total asshole
Tue, 07 Aug - 13:11:27 208.181.212.136 Post #: 8801