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Way to go, Epoch,
the whole Italy speaks about it now
;_))

Tuesday April 30, 2002 (Marina del Rey, CA)

Epoch's new affiliate tracking program officially launches tomorrow, Wednesday May 1.
Referred to as the "2-Tier Reseller Program", Epoch's new tracking system accommodates
multiple programs and three levels of profit sharing. Sponsor programs can track sales
for "resellers" and "referrers" and set the split for recurring sales to any combination the
sponsor program wishes to promote.

The 2-Tier program was released to all Epoch clients on February 5th of this year and
was due to become the default program on March 18th. At the request of webmasters
who wished to integrate an automated sign-up utility, we extended the official date for
integration until May 1st and provided online documentation and API's by request.

The new program will allow 3-way commission splits for recurring sales, will feature
advanced reporting including 2 or 3 way ACH splits, and will extend method of payment
for ACH sales by Epoch.

You can read more about the program at http://www.paycom.net/two_tier/ or visit the
FAQ at http://www.paycom.net/two_tier/FAQ.html.
Serge

maybe Serge will bring you back something.
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sure, sure,
I'll bring everybody KADOHAS,
which means in Yiddish-
pain in the ass
;-))
Serge (Males4free and Males4free Gold, new from INNOVATORS!)

RRRed it just depends on what type of pitch you want to make. For the most part we make personal, first person pitches. For our individual girl sits we try not to go overboard - because most real girls I know ( even the wild kinky, stripper ones) do not talk much trash about how they want big cocks, and fuck themselves every night with a 14 inch dildo.

We try to "keep it real", talk abuot everyday things... The softsell...

Of course with a 3-4 page tour on a mega-amateur site with numerous girls, one that is not updated every week this would probbaly not be a good sales technique.

For a tour, I would still make it personal, each girl speaking in their own voice and have their own likes and dislikes, probbaly want to make them nasty, and throw out lots of catch phrases emphesizing these are girls nextdoor...

also on tours pretty does not always mean better... ARS's new Amateur tour is basic, and pretty ugly - but its converting like magic.

Again these are my opinions, take them for what they are worth...

:-)

Mike AI ARS knows how to make money - want t increase your bottom line 10%??

<< Farrell might be a nutcake sometimes, but his site converts like mad for me... >>

I saw Farrell on TV once (forget what show)....funny....he didn't LOOK like a nutcake....*grin*

GiGi CashQuest 2

The TV networks are run by chimps on Ecstasy.

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Fox's special-ops expert exposed as a fraud

Fair, balanced and gullible? It turns out that Joseph Cafasso, who spent four months working for Fox News Channel as an expert on military matters and special operations, is not who he claimed to be -- not by a long
shot. Cafasso, who left his job at Fox News on March
11 after wearing out the patience of co-workers,
described himself as a retired Army lieutenant colonel
who saw action in a special forces unit and participated
in the failed mission to rescue hostages held in Iran in
1980. But according to The New York Times,
Cafasso's entire military service consisted of 44 days of
basic training in 1976. Fox has said that Cafasso's
contributions never resulted in the network airing any
false information, and it even appears that his counsel,
if heeded could have prevented at least one erroneous
report. According to the Times, a private security firm
hired to verify Cafasso's background told Fox News as
far back as November that his story didn't check out.

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mutt

RRREd get in touch with me or have Gabe do it on ICQ. I will give him my opinion of what works... for what it is worth.

One site I have done well on, that is a program site is HomeGrownVideo - Farrell might be a nutcake sometimes, but his site converts like mad for me...

Mike AI ARS knows how to make money - want t increase your bottom line 10%??

<< Wow am I getting spamed from Exploited Cash :-( >>

ditto.....

GiGi CashQuest 2

Hey Mike... Gabe is working on the text in our amateur site today and wonders if you might have some advice to share... This is a little new to him but he's been doing great on the other sites.
RRRED Raised Payouts... $1.10 - $1.30 per email

Meni, DoKK - I think those monkeys work for me!!

Wish the gov't would have told me they were doing experiments on them!

Mike AI ARS knows how to make money - want t increase your bottom line 10%??

Dokk, how many mg of MDMA didn' the monkeys get? and for 4 days straight?
thats a bit too long to be doing E
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

woops - that should say, i wouldn't have it without you guys.
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

jesse - what up. you and colin are replying to an email i wrote about month ago. so, it would be nice if you guys said hello once and a while. ;)

if we do have the whole wedding thing, i wouldn't have it with you guys.

once again - Eat shrooms!
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

I think half of America is now in the biz of producing porn. Can't believe how many sites I see now that do their own content. Expensive way to do biz but if the content is good it pays off.
mutt

I know that a good way to get me NOT to use a sponsor is to fill up my mailbox with spam.

Cleo (.)~(.) 100% fat free and stays crispy in milk

Wow am I getting spamed from Exploited Cash :-(
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have recieved 4 of the same darn message in less than 2 hours :(
All to the same email address. =(

Blondy

..... i'll just have a diet coke, thanks! ;-)

dokk
Tue, 30 Apr - 10:38:39 12.92.218.205 Post #: 78176
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Dokk, Aspartan (sugar replacement in diet-coke) causes cancer.

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Didn't anybody tell DrGuile that you are only allowed to win one prize over 500 dollars from Oprano in a 6 month period?

mutt
Tue, 30 Apr - 09:52:11 66.185.85.76 Post #: 78170
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I know thats not true, but either way, the important thing is that Im sticking it to everyone and letting them know Im better than them... Its the American Way!

;)
DrGuile

Wow am I getting spamed from Exploited Cash :-(

OK, I'm going to twist up some crypt and then get some work done.......slowly.

Cleo (.)~(.) 100% fat free and stays crispy in milk

"X" came along a little after my time.. i do remember mda from the old days and it stood for "most damn anything"..

Brain imaging research in humans indicates that MDMA causes injury to the brain, affecting neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons. The serotonin system plays a direct role in regulating mood, aggression, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain. Many of the risks users face with MDMA use are similar to those found with the use of cocaine and amphetamines:

Psychological difficulties, including confusion, depression, sleep problems, drug craving, severe anxiety, and paranoia - during and sometimes weeks after taking MDMA.

Physical symptoms such as muscle tension, involuntary teeth clenching, nausea, blurred vision, rapid eye movement, faintness, and chills or sweating.

Increases in heart rate and blood pressure, a special risk for people with circulatory or heart disease.

Also, there is evidence that people who develop a rash that looks like acne after using MDMA may be risking severe side effects, including liver damage, if they continue to use the drug.

Research links MDMA use to long-term damage to those parts of the brain critical to thought and memory. One study, in primates, showed that exposure to MDMA for 4 days caused brain damage that was evident 6 to 7 years later.

..... i'll just have a diet coke, thanks! ;-)

dokk

"TAKE THAT TALIBAN!"

http://www.xterror.com/
Robert

Wooops, I was wrong, she died Saturday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,51329,00.html

Ulfie Got gay, teen or amateur traffic? Mr. $$$ signs the checks.

she died Friday?

you win Ulfie, maybe Serge will bring you back something.

Barbie� was the first child's doll to have tits.
TAKE THAT TALIBAN!

mutt

The woman that invented the barbie doll died on Friday. What do I win? haha

Ulfie Got gay, teen or amateur traffic? Mr. $$$ signs the checks.

MikeAI - I guess I'll volunteer to be the OFFICIAL Oprano Panty Checker! Spambot can help!!

Toolz - drop me an ICQ when you get the opp #16347402
Edd (Opranautical Engineer) BAD SPAMBOT! BAD!!

Here's a game. Guess who died today?

This person was female. She was 85. And she leaves behind two children Ken and Barbara.

Didn't anybody tell DrGuile that you are only allowed to win one prize over 500 dollars from Oprano in a 6 month period?

mutt

GiGi, at the next Oprano Party in Miami we will have panty checks. Anyone wearing big, granny panties will not be allowed in. They will be sent home to wear more apporpriate panties, OR they can take them off! ;-)

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

OMG Mike AI....that is just.....bizarre....not right at all :P

GiGi CashQuest 2

Did she find the guy with the mole on his tallywacker?

;))
Nick

OK I think I know what I want to do when I retire... I want to be a faculty member here...

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/kgtv/20020429/lo/1178618_1.html

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

Man some people are freaking morons and do not give up.

Producer you are banned, move on. Stop posting your ignorant posts. No one wants to do business with you.
Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

Jonas, Good to hear from. I would appreciate an HELLO every now and then ;) And thanks for the
invitation to the wedding. Info, I need info. Love ya bro.

Jesse

<< Voodooman.. ya.. the fighting would go down, but the food bill would increase drastically... >>

ROTFLMAO!! so true so true! :P

GiGi CashQuest 2

Ulfie -

can you hit me on ICQ? 1242876
sharky Blasting away the competition!

fatbaby,

True, didnt think about that.
:-)
voodooman (I did pelmeni and you did NOT!)

Would be rather ironic if you were in prison for posessing pot and they gave it to you to calm you down. ;)

Putting people in jail for pot is stupid in my opinion. Alcohol probably causes more crime than anything else yet there is a bar on every corner.

Ulfie Got gay, teen or amateur traffic? Mr. $$$ signs the checks.

Voodooman.. ya.. the fighting would go down, but the food bill would increase drastically...

;-)

fatbaby

Morning Oprano...

Not that I dont enjoy the drug talk, but i'd like to blow my own horn, and point out that Im #1 in the NHL Pickem!

That is all, we return you to your regular schedule message board...

DrGuile

They should MAKE everyone
in prison smoke pot, there
would be alot less fighting
going on.

voodooman (I did pelmeni and you did NOT!)

I'm actually finding the conversation on drugs and kids a very refreshing one. I think it's important to talk about, and it's good to see other people's views and ideas. I have 3 boys and 2 of them will be 'teens' within 5 years....

<< But I see a time where if you get caught with small amount on you, that its a non-criminal offense. De-criminizing it.

Jails shuold not be filled with drug people, when dangerous murders, rapists, armed robbers, aussaulters get out cause of over crowding.... >>

Mike AI, this is basically the precedent here in BC. We've had a looooong standing issue with grow ops here and pot has basically become part of the BC culture. I hear even in Amsterdam at the coffee houses they have 'BC Skunk' on the menus. (can anyone verify this??...could just be a rumor)

If you are caught with up to an OZ all still together in ONE bag, they will basically just take it from you and send you on your way. (unless you have a criminal record) If it's split up into dime bags, 8th's or whatever, then it becomes a problem because they can get you for 'possession with the intent to traffic'....but they might even turn a blind eye to this depending on circumstance.

There's just wayyyyy too many grow shows here and the jails would be bloated even more so with drug dealers instead of the murderers et al that you were saying.

I really do hope we get a ruling here eventually that 'decriminalizes' pot for many reasons including the stress on jail systems and their population capacities...I think we are closer than ever now.

GiGi CashQuest 2

Ah,,,,,
Albion Medical, guess I should read 5 posts back before hitting the honeybear :)
Vandy

Hello Everyone,
Can anyone recommend penis enlargement affiliate program(s) other than HerbalO?

Thanks,
Vandy I Love the Honeybear

I dont know squat about pot.
Ill never smoke the honey bear.
:-((

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voodooman (I did pelmeni and you did NOT!)

CJ, not to split hairs or anything but you mean, your health plan doesn't cover heart disease, cancer,liver & kidney problems, detox, etc etc, ?
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hank, i should have explained clearer ... i mean covered in public government health plan (which here covers a % of almost everything including dental, optomistrist etc)
Private health plans allow additional cover for additional expense ...

cj (vaginator) $70 signups, all day every day!!

Im 35 and I cant remember shit
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that could be a good thing

cleo, how far did you make it?
I am up to purple haze ;)yah mon!

Blondy

Webfather,

Equations checked. I agree with that.
Colin

all i know is..
if you remember the 70's you weren't enjoying yourself.
8-)))
runk Got Gay Traffic? Give It Up!!

' what's funny though, is that despite how much tax you pay on cigarettes, alcohol, prescribed medication etc, illnesses resulting from these are not covered by any health plans ... '

CJ, not to split hairs or anything but you mean, your health plan doesn't cover heart disease, cancer,liver & kidney problems, detox, etc etc, ?

Glad I'm not in your health plan ..:)

Hank D yeah, right

morning oprano...
wake 'n' bake
runk Got Gay Traffic? Give It Up!!

Mr$$$ - thanks. so far it has been good. We need gay traffic also. There seems to be less available then ever before. Can you send me an email with your site, webmster program and maybe we can do an exit trade. Our exit is pretty full,but we might be able to d something. jjk at mshproductions.com

i will be out for a few hours, s i will get to it this afternoon.
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

has anyone tried the affilate program from Albion Medical. Converting pretty well for us on little traffic.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tried others Jonas...but just signed up under you ;)

P.S...I need some gay traffic!
Mr$$$ Is it PAYDAY yet?

I wish I couldn't remember some things.

Cleo (.)~(.) What the fuck!!!

Im 35 and I cant remember shit :o)

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has anyone tried the affilate program from Albion Medical. Converting pretty well for us on little traffic. http://www.albionmedical.com/cgi-bin/affiliates/clickthru.cgi/mshp
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

Good Morning Oprano

Honey Bear
http://www.zooass.com/games/honeybear/honeybear_demo.shtml

Cleo (.)~(.) I want one of these

LOL
yes if you get to 50 and can't remember anything you don't deserve another 25-35 years!!! :-)))
cj (vaginator) THE highest payouts in porn.

just eat shrooms.
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

A longer life doesn't necessarily mean a better one!
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CJ, that is true.....but if you are so blown away that you can't remember it....can't be that good!

:-)

Webfather

Look at the rockers and celebs that die in their 50's and cheat themselves out of another 25-35 years of LIFE.
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A longer life doesn't necessarily mean a better one!

cj (vaginator) THE highest payouts in porn.

voodooo, I'm still looking for the honeybear link, but here's a couple others:))

http://members.optushome.com.au/dynmedia/swf/billandted.swf

http://members.optushome.com.au/dynmedia/swf/pothead.swf

oh, morning oprano:)
dantheman

<<I don't think ANYONE should be allowed to be married - at any age ;)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Weddings off Grimm.
:-((>>

Oops - I meant no one should get married EXCEPT for me, Voodoo and Grimm :)

T - I also bet that by the time Jake's 18, the pot will be MUCH less expensive than the gas :(

<<For the most part, it's pretty difficult to die.>>

LOL, Colin, my brainiac logical buddy, you have a point ;)

Off to Atlanta for the day - and it's raining....anyone that knows Atlanta knows that rain+driving=chaos :(((((

Peaches

For the most part, it's pretty difficult to die.
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Colin, you are missing a BIG part of the equation.

Look at the rockers and celebs that die in their 50's and cheat themselves out of another 25-35 years of LIFE.

So folks may not die NOW....but it looks obvious to me that it will shorten ones life.

Webfather

Heck, I sneaking out the house, getting my Mom's station wagon and driving to bars at 15...with all the drinking and drugs between that time and around 25, the only reason I'm still alive is pure, dumb luck.

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For the most part, it's pretty difficult to die.

Colin

If someone from ARS is out there....

You got MAJOR stats problems.

Yesterday it erased all sales. Also deleted bonus points.

An update would be appreciated.

Webfather

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HAHAHA Racket?? That is what I call enterprising... send him my number, we need people like that at HiRise!

;-)

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

The guy actually has a little racket going on....early in the night he sells drugs....later in the night he sells ho-hos to the same people!!! What a racket!!! :)

--T

SweetT NationalNet

HAHAHA I am lucky to get ho-hos at my min-mart! ;-)

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

MikeAI....you are right. I was being a little facetious....actually, I can go buy weed while pumping gas at the mini mart now.....my hook up works at the mini mart!!! :)

--T

SweetT NationalNet

T, I am not sure if your son wil be able to just buy drugs at supermarket. But I see a time where if you get caught with small amount on you, that its a non-criminal offense. De-criminizing it.

Jails shuold not be filled with drug people, when dangerous murders, rapists, armed robbers, aussaulters get out cause of over crowding....

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

Eeeekkk
sorry about the spelling...

; )
HoneyBlond Phonetic Spelling Advocate

Cleo...I am not picking on you when I do this so please do not think that I am.....but I have to point this out....

>>>>>I don't drink, I don't smoke cigarettes, I eat very healthy, don't do drugs other then drink a lot of coffee and smoke a little grass

OK....so as a society, have we now put Marijuana on the same "intoxicant level" as coffee???

The reality is that Cleo feels the same way as about half of the rest of the sub-50 population of the US. It is comments like this that make me believe that the drug laws in the US are going to get more and more linient in the coming decades. I bet by the time my 2 year old son is 18 he will be able to buy weed while he is pumping gas at the mini mart....JMHO.

--T

SweetT NationalNet

the REAL problem is the USA is our attitudes towards drugs and alcohol. We always gotta demonize stuff rather thasn talk about it openly with kids.
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Well Good Old Fashioned Guilt & Fear worked on my kids! lol..

Seriously though openess and being approachable with kids is very important. I always advocated sport and lots of it, to lessen the amount of free time they had to be board and find trouble. If they were curious about alchole, I let them have some, at home in a controled environment, to avoid them having to sneak it with their friends..thus avoiding potentially dangerous binge drinking etc...(basically took all the fun out of it !) So they had no reason to hide these things from me. and also it left the doors open for questions etc. Our children ( in most cases ) whether we like it or not are a reflection of ourselves...

: )

HoneyBlond Thats all I got to say about that !

If it is for creativity the creativity becomes secondary to the drugs use at the abuse level and the creativity is lost
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very important distinction between DRUG USE and DRUG ABUSE. unfortunately, we only call illegal drugs 'drug abuse'. as long as your drug of choice comes with a tax, its ok for you to take as much of it as you like, as often as you like!!

what's funny though, is that despite how much tax you pay on cigarettes, alcohol, prescribed medication etc, illnesses resulting from these are not covered by any health plans ...

cigarettes here incur around 30% tax, and yet you also have to pay a higher health premium, and are not covered for hardly any illnesses stemming from the smoking of cigarettes. I'm happy to accept responsiblity for my choices, i know what these cancer sticks are doing to my body. but where does my tax money go? I'd like to think it goes into education to stop more people from taking up the habit, but somehow I doubt much of it goes there.

Mike, I agree on the personality comment. also 'lifestyle' and 'situations' can encourage heavier usage of certain 'addictions'. I hardly ever smoke when i'm not at my computer, or out partying. I can go weeks with only a few cigarettes, as long as i'm not in my usual 'environment'.

cj (vaginator) home of the $70 free signups!

Anyone have that link to
the game, who wants to smoke
my honey bear?

voodooman (I did pelmeni and you did NOT!)

LNA - you make great points.

I think a lot has to do with personalities as well. I personally do not have an addictive personality, so there is not much I get stuck on wanting to do over and over. But I can see how other people fall into the trap...

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

I don't think ANYONE should be allowed to be married - at any age ;)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Weddings off Grimm.
:-((
voodooman (I did pelmeni and you did NOT!)

Hmmm.....
Let me see if I can explain this a little
In most cases drugs are just a short cut, whether it be to creativity (pot, LSD), feeling of love or closeness (MDMA/E, small doses of alochol), blotting out feelings/purposeful forgetting/coping (alcohol, depressants, opiates) or increased engry, thought ability (speed, cocaine) you get the idea and that before we even get to peer pressure and social acceptance

Problem being users tend to want/try to return to that state of feeling good or denial and then the abuse starts
When the abuse starts, the problems soon follow.

If it is for creativity the creativity becomes secondary to the drugs use at the abuse level and the creativity is lost
if it is for blotting out feelings/purposeful forgetting/coping the problems still exist when sober
For closeness or increased thought and energy the drug becomes too important and all is lost

What's the solution
Fuck if I know

Late Night Anon

You really haven't lived until you experience Q, but I hear that R is going to be even better.

I did E on and off for about 2 years. I stopped because it really started messing with my health and memory. I think the worse thing about E is the fact that much of what is sold as E isn't really E, but some really nasty crap.

I don't drink, I don't smoke cigarettes, I eat very healthy, don't do drugs other then drink a lot of coffee and smoke a little grass, but people seem to point guns at me a lot and sometimes even shoot me. Guess I'll be very heathy when someone finally murders me.

Cleo (.)~(.) Come do drugs with me

Errr I am starting to sounds like Meni now.... Must be all the F ( I am to opoor to do E, so I have to do F)

Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

Hmmmmm GiGi, Peaches.... double...

I have got to stop thinking naughty thoughts....
Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

<<Damn Peaches....I finally found my double in the world! haha>>

I'll never know how my mother never knew anything....she will swear on a Bible I was a virgin on my wedding night :)

Peaches

<< Heck, I sneaking out the house, getting my Mom's station wagon and driving to bars at 15...with all the drinking and drugs between that time and around 25, the only reason I'm still alive is pure, dumb luck. >>

Damn Peaches....I finally found my double in the world! haha

GiGi CashQuest 2

<<If I can catch a bullet for my country at 18 I should be able to drink.>>

Since I have an 18 yo in the ROTC, I personally think you should be at least 21 to catch a bullet - then raise that number when HE turns 21 :(

<<If I can get married at 18 I should be able to drink.>>

I don't think ANYONE should be allowed to be married - at any age ;)

<<There's a reason other countries have lower rates of abuse than we do and it has to do with how we always gotta demonize stuff rather thasn talk about it openly with kids.>>

True. I was always upfront and honest with my kid about what I had done (kinda like Ozzy telling his son not to smoke pot because "Look at me!" ;)). He told me he's never done drugs and I DO believe him. I also did my best not to stress abstinence, but to stress responsibility and to ALWAYS use a condom. My stepmother is an OB/GYN midwife and always put condoms in our Christmas stockings :)

Peaches

Definately think 18 is the cut off age....
Mike AI Coming in May - MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY!

Hehehe. I understand your position Peaches but....

If I can catch a bullet for my country at 18 I should be able to drink.

If I can get married at 18 I should be able to drink.

And so on and so forth.

the REAL problem is the USA is our attitudes towards drugs and alcohol. There's a reason other countries have lower rates of abuse than we do and it has to do with how we always gotta demonize stuff rather thasn talk about it openly with kids.

Change that and you'll go a LONG way towards changing the attitudes towards drugs and alcohol.

TheEnforcer

hee hee
I'm 32
look 25
act 17
my motto
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Grimm, those guys are addicted
thats sad
you can't roll every day
your seratonin level won't rise
they are idiots
just like alcoholics, heroin users, chain smokers
But don't blast me if I only do 2 times a month.

Meni (The Golden Tongue)

TE, I just remember how incredibly immature *I* was at 18 (and my kid now, lol!). Granted, there are immature 32 year olds (we won't mention any names.....;)), but personally, I like the 21 cut off.

My son told me the other night he never drank in HS because he knew I'd catch him - and let's just say he won't ever smoke again after I caught him smoking ;) He's making up for it now though...which is why I don't let him have a car in college.

Heck, I sneaking out the house, getting my Mom's station wagon and driving to bars at 15...with all the drinking and drugs between that time and around 25, the only reason I'm still alive is pure, dumb luck.

Peaches

If they had half a brain, they would allow the ministers to have sex with women, hookers, hoochie coochie girls, heavy metal bar sluts...whatever turns them on.
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hahaha thats funny
than next thing you know prists have their own groopies like rock stars
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Pretty much agree with you on that post Peaches except for the age IMHO should be 18 rather than 21.

Also it should be noted that in many states parents can order THEIR OWN kids an alcohlic beverage while in restaurants and bars and of course in their own home.

TheEnforcer

Did I say kids doing it is ok?
I said E isn't the killer some of the media makes it out to be.
that 19 kid who sold it to the 16 you got off didn't he?
When my daughter is an adult, she can choose to do whatever she wants.
Here's a link
http://www.ecstasy.org/qanda/index.html

Meni (The Golden Tongue)

as far as E goes, like anything it can be addictive. i have friends that do it every day, or many times a week. cannot go out or be social without it. also when not used in moderation, like any drug, it will kill your brain. ive seen many smart people turn into idiots.

parents like the ones in that show are releived their kids arent doing "wirse" drugs. that is lunacy.
grimm (Blow Me) Directnic....Register your .us names NOW

It is an issue of responsibility. dont do anything that you arent prepared to take the consequences for.

So kids shoulcnt do it, since they have no idea of consequences.

If someone sold my kid x, id kill them. however if my kid did it, i would discuss the pros and cons of drug use with them.. i think parental ignorance is a big problem. every parent should try it, so they know what they are talking about. E in itself isnt bad, it is a good drug in many aspects. counselors encourage it for adults with communication/marriage problems in a lot of cases.

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i think you are referring to this ancient church practice

Indulgences? Yes! Back in the Middle Ages, "indulgences" were a form of "absolution-permit" sold by the Catholic church; having sinned, you could assuage your guilt, and minimise (or remove altogether) the need for penance by purchasing yourself an Indulgence.

Funds raised from these sales were a major source of Papal income.

There were a whole range of different types of indulgence;

Plenary indulgences granted remission of all sin,
Partial indulgences remitted a portion,
Temporal indulgences granting remission for a defined period,
Perpetual or Indefinite which lasted until explicitly revoked,
Personal which applied to a named person or confraternity, and
Local which applied only to a specific place.

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