MikeAI,
check
http://www.webinc.com/
and click on
"Check Our Partners" on the bottom...
did you get K-1???
;-)))
Serge
Mon, 15 Apr - 12:09:56 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75300
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MikeAI,
Mon, 15 Apr - 12:09:56 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75300
check http://www.webinc.com/ and click on "Check Our Partners" on the bottom... did you get K-1??? ;-))) Serge ![]() coooooooooookie......me want COOKIE! mmmmmmmmmm...........cookie taste good. Want more COOKIES! Cookie Monster
Nick,
Mon, 15 Apr - 12:03:39 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75298
thanks for taking a look. I think those ads turned out pretty good. actually naughtyglass is doing pretty well. started of real big, then slowed down for 2 weeks or so, was getting a little worried, but the last 2 week, around 60-85 orders per day.. mabey things are catching on. of course I thank the webmasters for this:) sextoyking
Todd,
Mon, 15 Apr - 12:02:38 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75297
from your page: (c) 1995-2001 Webinc.com. Any unauthorized use of graphics or text on this site is strictly prohibited. do you know that promotions on Oprano without linking back to Oprano is even more strictier prohibited that your prohibition????? don't tell me that is news for ya! Serge Mon, 15 Apr - 11:59:14 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75296
Sextoyking,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:59:05 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75295
That's better. ;)) Checking out the full page ads btw Nick ![]()
Nick,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:56:49 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75294
true netpond is also 699.00 but damm I gotta keep the boards fair:)) ok, 695.00 for Oprano sextoyking
Ha that sounds more like it. I swear I remember seeing that one day and thought WTF... anyhow I'll email you today....
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:56:10 4.61.211.119 Post #: 75293
RRRED Cookies left to the imagination
hey Todd!!!!
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:54:07 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75292
"" sextoyking Oprano Special: 100 Animated Banners, $750.00 Mon, 15 Apr - 11:38:35 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75277 "" Netpond offer is 699.00?????? Nick
Hi Rrred,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:54:02 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75291
75.00 for 100, wow I never put that special out:)))) but can do 100 animated, diff. sizes ok, etc, etc. for the great Oprano price of $699.00 :) sextoyking
as much as I loathe the narrowminded, bigoted, homophobic,arrogant,self centered righteous scumbag - I'd be compelled to be there.
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:53:02 12.94.22.35 Post #: 75290
it would be a coup(coupe?) 8-) runk Got Gay Traffic? ![]()
Hi Nick,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:52:48 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75289
hey we got some real great looking full page ads up for you now at: http://www.naughtyglass.com/money these should help make you and anthony the glass dildo kings:))) sextoyking Mon, 15 Apr - 11:52:37 4.61.211.119 Post #: 75288
fallwell?
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:48:30 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75287
grrrr. hatemonger. runk Got Gay Traffic? Mon, 15 Apr - 11:44:45 12.94.22.35 Post #: 75284 Yeah,don't ya just hate,hatemongers ;)) Nick
Runk,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:47:22 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75286
yeh forsure, always has been a hatefull type of person who hides behind religion.. Serge, would be a hell of a show;) sextoyking
Runk,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:46:58 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75285
this is what makes show interesting...don't you see? Serge ![]() Mon, 15 Apr - 11:44:45 12.94.22.35 Post #: 75284
Todd, my sentiment precizely!
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:44:32 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75283
he'll talk about evils of porn and we'll talk about too much porn in Boston Archidiosese ;-)) this should be lots of fun! ;-)) Serge
Oh lord,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:41:56 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75282
if you could get jerry falwell, that would be great.. actually it might not be that impossible. he seems to go on alot of shows, small and large. of course he will be preaching about the evils of pornography but who cares, will be funny to listen too:) sextoyking Oprano Special: 100 Animated Banners, $750.00
errr one pm = one afternoon.Not today
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:41:14 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75281
Nick
confucy,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:40:36 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75280
hahahahahahahahah SeRgE..hacker extrodinaire hahahahahaha,you really are a totally brainless moron. blondy, Canucks,of course :) If you are in town,wanna meet me at OrangeNo5 one pm for lunch? :) Nick ![]()
well Serge with your new radio program, seems it will be an adult version of Crossfire :)
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:39:53 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75279
sextoyking ****************************** could be...the first guest on the wish list is... Jerry Falwell. Serge
Serge, when you go out of town this year please send hitbot traffic to Confucy!
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:38:52 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75278
********************* is "gay hit bot traffic" ok? ;-)) Serge
Afternoon all,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:38:35 12.224.183.110 Post #: 75277
well Serge with your new radio program, seems it will be an adult version of Crossfire :) sextoyking Oprano Special: 100 Animated Banners, $750.00
Lee,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:36:50 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75276
I NEVER been in Europe on business, NEVER! Europe is for vacations Only! I don't even bother to write it off like some people will next year and thus raising flags with IRS ;-))) As for radio...in case you haven't read Dokk closely, him, Larry Flynt and Oprano start doing http://flyntradio.com on a weekly basis starting in July. He'll play conservative and I'll play Liberal, gonna be lots of fun! <small print> don't bother telling you are not Lee, after everything you posted over the years about FM, you would never admit it, you are not THAT stupid ;-)) </small print> Serge Confucy, have you met Erik the Producer? He is a new guy we have around here. Some people find him annoying. I think you would like him... Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes! ![]()
I know it is crazy. 20 years, but they let you do it. Whata country
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:34:23 12.43.108.57 Post #: 75274
:-) The Producer Confucy has returned!! Serge, when you go out of town this year please send hitbot traffic to Confucy! HAHAHA Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes!
Serge, are you buttering up dokk
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:29:55 64.12.103.166 Post #: 75272
so you can have your own radio show? You may not take a laptop with you when you travel, but you do use the computers of your friends in other countries. I remember when you screwed around with Netpond when you were in Europe on business. Confucy never forgets! confucy Hey that is one foot a year!!! You know the fake photos of J.Lo has her legs twisted kind of strangely - unaturally. Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes! Mon, 15 Apr - 11:23:58 208.61.44.30 Post #: 75270 ![]() Mon, 15 Apr - 11:23:52 216.39.135.46 Post #: 75269 well she is wearing a short mini so you would think she would wear something. I don't even think she's anything special. And i saw those Britney Spears pics somebody was selling here and I really don't get her at all. She's cute and that's about it. She wouldn't be in the top 5 girls on any beach i've ever been to. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
you need 20 years financing on 20 footer???
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:22:29 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75267
I thought your business was doing better... ;-((( Serge
Oh Yeah, the 20 foot SeaCraft looks nice. Did you know they give 20 year financing on a boat. Gosh I love this country...
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:19:56 12.43.108.57 Post #: 75266
The Producer Mutt we are on same page. I do not care dimension above, though many times for me less IS more. But if its not bare below, then a solution must be worked on! Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes! ![]() Mon, 15 Apr - 11:13:53 216.242.35.102 Post #: 75264 so Brandi is right. Is GFY searchable so we can see the pic with the panties on? mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW! Mohawk, racing stripe, landing strip is fine. Wookie bush is not good. Neatly trimmed triangle up top on Mount Venus is best, bare below. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW! Mon, 15 Apr - 11:11:35 24.64.223.205 Post #: 75261
Brandi, saw this a while back on GFY. Someone posted the actual shots that clearly show panties. Sorry, it's fake J-lo coochie :(
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:10:45 216.39.135.46 Post #: 75260
Robert ![]() Mutt shaven is good. Mowhawk is good. Furry is NOT good. Yuck! Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes! why don't you think it's her cookie Brandi? she needs some hair, that look on a grown woman is strange to me. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW! Cleo, Ed has also been working feaverishly on the SergeBot... to handle his posting duties while he is on vacation. Damn accent has been a bitch to program though. Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes!
Brandi,
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:03:33 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75256
looks real to me...her face looks rather embaraced when she lowers her skirt ;-))) "cookies" lie, faces don't ;-))) Serge Mon, 15 Apr - 11:02:05 216.242.35.102 Post #: 75255 ![]()
You're in Vancouver and we never met.Drop by for lunch sometime.
Mon, 15 Apr - 11:01:33 24.64.223.205 Post #: 75254
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am on the Island however I will be in the City on Thursday. Where ya taking me? :)j/k I will be taking you up on that offer. What part of the city are you in? Blondy
So Serge will you be taking a laptop with you or will this be a Sergeless board for awhile?
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:59:44 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75253
Cleo ********************** Cleo, as you know, I don't even own lap top, never did! my philosophy is: NOTHING gonna happen when I am away what I can't fix when I get back (backfired on me once in 1999, but I doubt that my presense would make much of a difference ;-))) Oprano dodn't go anywhere in September and it's not going anywhere in May ;-))) Serge yeah GIRLS make some picks in the Big Players Hockey Pickem. Top Girls prize is good - enough content to build tons of sites plus some cash. http://www.asiancutiescontent.com Really nice Asian teen content, you can pick what you want. http://www.opranoplus.com/stanleycup also this photo/video content which is pretty realistic voyeur stuff http://www.haremgroup.com/content/main.htm mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
GiGi,
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:58:42 24.234.151.69 Post #: 75251
If Shok told you that then he must have been in the half right stage when he was telling you he was always right. Reminder, screw the government tomorrow and earn 100 rewards points for every signup you send, get back a little of what they took today. Toolz ARS Tax Relief Day: TOMORROW: 100 reward points per signup
Looks good, I made my picks... and I know NOTHING about hockey!
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:56:33 208.220.30.72 Post #: 75250
----------------------------- same here nothing, we only use ice with our crown royal;) maybe i can get lucky dantheman ![]() true dat brutha. i had no clue who that was at first. i blew it up in Photoshop, no way to tell if it's a doctored photo. Looks like the situation is very real to me, wearing a mini skirt getting out of a vehicle. why does Brandi think it's a fake? Looks like a vagina to me but i'd have to eat it to be sure. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
Can you all please settle a debate between Shok and I? He swears this is the real deal (not sure how long it has been since he actually saw one) but I think it is a fake.
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:55:30 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75248
http://www.x69.org/index.html What do you graphic geniuses think? Serge any thoughts? Brandi WEGCash ****************************** Brandi, I think Shok is RIGHT, this IS a REAL pussy! I don't know id this is HER pussy, but it's a REAL one! ;-))) Serge
hmmm.....tagline....can you tell it's monday?? hehe
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:53:50 24.69.255.204 Post #: 75247
GiGi CQ2 - VIPWeb is coooommmmmiiiinnnnngggg.....
Brandi :o)
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:52:54 24.69.255.204 Post #: 75246
Shok told me once that he is always right...but between you and me....I've seen instances where he was only 'half' right...hhehe shshshsh, don't tell Shok I said that. ;o) GiGi http://www1.cashquest2.com HAHA Mutt did not even know who she was.... Mutt neither did I, till I read title tag! http://www.opranoplus.com/stanleycup/ Looks good, I made my picks... and I know NOTHING about hockey! Mike AI Stanely Cup Pick'em - make your picks, win some big $$$ and prizes! ![]()
Interesting. We built a studio here, but it was so labour intensive that we put the resources to other projects that were more high yield.
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:52:34 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75244
blondy, You're in Vancouver and we never met.Drop by for lunch sometime. An aside... Do any other orgainisations find decent webmasters hard to find (based locally)...I'm tempted to assign our latest experienced recruit to purely training new recruits. We have so many projects now (adult and non-adult) we are not able to cope with demand. So...if you are in BC and would be interested in joining one of the Adult web's Top 5 most profitable companies email me :) Nick
Serge, that new robot guy is freeking me out!!
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:50:06 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75243
Blondy *********************** Blondy, you've seen nothing yet, wait 'till "robbi" starts doing his "shticks" ;-))) Serge Mon, 15 Apr - 10:49:58 66.185.85.76 Post #: 75242
Brandi I could not even tell that was J.Lo...
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:49:18 63.100.104.52 Post #: 75241
Maybe we should ask Puffy... I mean P Diddy. Mike AI Looks real to me. Who is the girl? mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW! ![]()
Can you all please settle a debate between Shok and I? He swears this is the real deal (not sure how long it has been since he actually saw one) but I think it is a fake.
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:46:58 216.242.35.102 Post #: 75239
http://www.x69.org/index.html What do you graphic geniuses think? Serge any thoughts? Brandi WEGCash
So Serge will you be taking a laptop with you or will this be a Sergeless board for awhile?
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:46:15 208.61.44.30 Post #: 75238
Cleo (.)~(.) UNIX for the rest of us
Nick,
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:45:14 198.78.108.9 Post #: 75237
IMHO the radio shows for surfers did *not* take off.. I have as of yet to see a viable financial model for such.. it's no problem to fill a chatroom with surfers but they are light years behind a webmaster audience.. early experiments with them were frustrating and fruitless. I'm not saying it can't be done but am more than delighted to let someone else tread those waters. ;-) dokk what about K-SEX? seems to be happening. Dunno how they make money. I suspect none of the on air talent is making anything, just promoting their websites and shit. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW! Mon, 15 Apr - 10:43:21 24.64.223.205 Post #: 75235
dokk,
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:42:51 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75234
I like your model! you are...a radio waves broker!!!! ;-))) good job! I learned about "brokerage" by watching "Trading Places" about 500 times. "Our customers make money, out customers lose money, we, the brokers, ALWAYS make money" ;-))) Serge
Hey Nick, there are plenty of webmaster shows still going on out there.
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:42:46 24.64.223.205 Post #: 75233
As for the surfer shows the only one I listened to was 4playradio.com which I notice the feed is rerouted to an FM station so must not be running. :( Blondy Eyada had lots of listeners but went tits up. Internet radio, music anyways, will be dead if this new royalty arrangement I read about becomes law. Nobody will be able to afford to play music except for people who don't care if they get sued. Hollywood is waging a war and it seems as if they are gaining a bit of headway lately. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
Nick,
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:40:45 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75231
I don't usually listen to the radio shows, but I heard of 2 stations at present: Dokk and Evan and I won't be surprised if one of them be out of the picture by year's end ;-))) as for radio for surfers, I think Voodoochile makes more money trading junk bonds than from owning the surfer radio ;-))) Serge
Serge I don't have a common point of reference to share! Business has never been better. Producing shows for Xpays, Xbiz, Ynot Masters, Amateur Masters, Netsurprise, Flynt Radio, Insite, CE, etc with a waiting list for available slots..
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:39:38 198.78.108.9 Post #: 75230
Have five audio feeds, three video feeds, have doubled capacity and continue to expand daily.. things aren't shrinking 'round here. As for the general market I can't comment as I don't do general market.. just webmaster programming. It's not done as a sideline or part of something else which may or may not explain why things are going well.. I am not one to look a gift horse in the mouth! ;-) dokk ![]()
What radio shows are left?
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:35:02 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75229
Did radio shows for surfers take off? (note: genuine questions) Nick
you mean it's YOU who kills the radio market today?
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:28:16 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75228
I said FM because I thought he was the force behind proliferation of the internet radio in early days... I think we'd be better off if we go beyond one liners ;-))) Serge
Serge, it's me, dokk!
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:25:39 198.78.108.9 Post #: 75227
FM's not here. ;-( dokk
Leave PLR?
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:18:50 24.64.223.205 Post #: 75226
Never! I had a couple technical difficulties. Darn wind here was knocking trees and powerlines down left and right. Blondy
the same thing that made it grow. ;-)
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:15:30 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75225
dokk ********************* FM?????? Serge ![]()
***
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:12:16 198.78.108.9 Post #: 75224
what do you think causes the internet radio market to shrink? *** the same thing that made it grow. ;-) dokk
Blondy,
Mon, 15 Apr - 10:01:29 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75223
ddi you leave PLR? Dman was looking for DJ overnite... Serge Mon, 15 Apr - 09:59:24 24.64.223.205 Post #: 75222
dokk,
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:52:31 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75221
what do you think causes the internet radio market to shrink? Serge those chromeless banners if you blur them to the background will draw clicks though. chromeless is the word they use for them. I never called the borders of a browser chrome but somebody obviously did. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW! ![]()
Can someone lend me $39? :)
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:47:18 68.65.113.14 Post #: 75219
mustang
Serge!
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:46:55 198.78.108.9 Post #: 75218
Those were the days my friend, We thought they'd never end. A tip of the glass to signs, signs, signs ... ;-) dokk
is there any program to kill ALL pop-ups and bring the net to the way it was in 1997?
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:46:46 65.34.116.33 Post #: 75217
----------------------------------------- Extreme Green ?? ;-)) Cybrglide Extreme Green - reliving the past - exit console free zone !!
dokk,
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:43:29 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75216
is there any program to kill ALL pop-ups and bring the net to the way it was in 1997? ;-))) Serge
zone alarm pro will kill those borderless pops no problem. advanced privacy controls are excellent plus you get a firewall and mailsafe protection to boot.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:40:24 198.78.108.9 Post #: 75215
if you have 39 bucks to spare it is not a bad investment! http://www.zonelabs.com/ ;-) dokk ![]()
Serge,
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:33:10 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75214
Is an incredible bastard. He invented shaving,pissing,and the soon to be Olympic sport of Goat fucking. Please go to : http://www.playsite.com/index.gsp and mate with him. ;))) Nick yeah i hate those new consoles. was it one of those that has no border? it just looks like a banner stuck on your screen with no way to get rid of it. mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
mutt, I couldn't find it because I got console in my face I couldn't get rid of.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:25:58 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75212
Serge Dave Cummings is a nice guy and a decorated military man. What did he want people to vote for? mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
A fellow Opranoite needs our assistance.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:22:59 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75210
Nickatilynx is a friend to Oprano, he invented Spam, e-mail advertising and Canmerican Dollars Please take a second to go to http://spamwealth.com and spam the living shit out of him! Serge ![]() Ok let's GO! All you wannabe Canadians it's time for the Stanley Cup Pickem sponsored by http://www.bigplayers.com BIG PLAYERS! $50 buck SIGNUPS! And the very cool Splash Consoles. Also sponsored by Pornsurfing.com - Mr. Cash's Email Program that has NO TAKEBACKS! http://www.pornsurfing.com/webmasters and of other great prize sponsors like Content-Club Niche Content. http://www.content-club.com . Even p0rn0man sponsored this one, this is a really slick site http://www.alladultdesign.com . $100 dollar full page ads last time I heard. Crazy! mutt Play Big Players Stanley Cup Pickem Game And WIN $$$ AND PRIZES! OPEN FOR BIDNESS NOW!
And I am everyone's friend :)
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:19:07 208.181.212.195 Post #: 75208
So checkout: http://www.ilynx.com Morning Oprano :) Nickatilynx (The Internet's No1 Crook, CERTIFIED!)
A fellow Opranoite needs our assistance.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:12:16 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75207
cj is a friend to Oprano, she invented electricity for Internet! Please take a second to go to http://sexhit.com and take 2,000,000 electrons from her! Serge
A fellow Opranoite needs our assistance.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:09:52 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75206
Timon is a friend to Oprano, he worked with Hugh Guccione setting them in porn business Please take a second to go to http://bigplayers.com and give Timon your advice! Serge I love Donald Rumsfield... Mike AI ![]()
A fellow Opranoite needs our assistance.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:07:24 172.161.158.186 Post #: 75204
Cybrglide is a friend to Oprano, he knew Larry Flynt when he was a little boy. Please take a second to go to http://extremegreen.com and give Cybrglide your vote! Serge
You can get rid if it...move your mouse to the top right hand corner and you will see a CLOSE text link.
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:07:03 4.34.164.247 Post #: 75203
It's a cockholster exit console. I suspect 20 readers of Oprano have already gotten the source code and will be incorporating it into their exit consoles before the day is over. JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist)
Nice cj - nice! but I know the REAL you....
Mon, 15 Apr - 09:06:34 63.100.104.9 Post #: 75202
http://www.oprano.com/graphics/captionpic12.jpg Edd (Opranautical Engineer) The Thunder from Down Under HAHAHA Serge I said same thing. What do you expect from AVN! haha I hate AVN - they are part of the problem with the industry and still do not have a clue of whats going on. AVN wants to take the business away from people like us, and give it to people like Vivid and other traditional porn people. So I say again - FUCK AVN! Mike AI |