Oops - the GA Tech SAT average was 1375 and the GPA was 3.9 - sorry - I gave the little geeks more credit than they deserved ;))


Peaches

<<By making students take other classes besides what their major is, it also exposes them to new ideas, and maybe new careers.>>

I agree - to a point. Let the STUDENT decide if they want to be "well rounded". Again, every type of class my kid is taking, he's already taken in HS - most of them for the full 4 years he was there. I don't mind paying $$$ if he WANTS to change his major, but shouldn't the student and the parents have the option to choose what classes they want to take? Why is he taking US history......again?? When we were looking at colleges, one of the stats was the average student loan debt at graduation.....it was staggering....there just HAS to be a better way to get kids educated and into the workforce without having to rack up debt filled with classes that don't pertain to their careers.

<<If someone wants to focus on computers, then maybe a technical institute rather the university is where they need to be. Especially if they do not like literature, english, philosophy, etc...>>

Except for GA Tech (which also required english, history, social sciences, etc. and because of the influx of great students, their average 2001-2002 freshman had an SAT of 1475 and GPA of 4.2) there are no technical colleges that aren't a joke around here - and we're in a fairly large metropolitan area ;) 'Tis why the kid is in an out of state school :)

His major is actually quite interesting - it's Computer Science and is officially in the Engineering/Science school, but it's a blend between a business and computer degree offering accounting, public speaking, business management, etc. classes.

<<Most computer people I know are self taught anyway, most universities are way behind the curve in tech anyway.>>

True - but sadly, very few companies will hire someone for a computer related job that DOESN'T have a degree.

Since I'm sure I've hit my "rant quota", I won't get into all the classes that are taught by teacher's assistants and not the professors ;))

Peaches

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Ball

Don't feel depressed Voodoo Serge is just trying to live vicarious through you, be his friend and give him a reach around.

Cleo (dysfunctional)

Cleo, who died and made you
resident psycologist?
:-))
Only thing Im depressed about
is this cold ass weather.

voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

Part of the college experience is to become well rounded. One must be challenged on all levels, not just the ones they are good at.

By making students take other classes besides what their major is, it also exposes them to new ideas, and maybe new careers.

I for one changed my major after taking some liberal arts classes.

If someone wants to focus on computers, then maybe a technical institute rather the university is where they need to be. Especially if they do not like literature, english, philosophy, etc...

Most computer people I know are self taught anyway, most universities are way behind the curve in tech anyway.


Mike AI

LOL, Cleo, I agree about math! A few months ago the kid was telling me he thought he may have missed a question on a Calculus exam because he "went too far" in the answer...HUH??!!

While I'm ranting about colleges in this area ;) it's becoming rare for the "average" student to get into a 4 year University here. They've been building 12 year schools like crazy, most elementary schools have classrooms in trailers because there's no room for the kids, but no colleges are being built and few are being added to. Plus we now have the lottery that pays for tuition for a GA college (which is only about 1/3 of the cost for the year, BTW). The college I went to 20 years ago was one you got into if you could sign your name and/or fog a mirror. Now kids are THRILLED if they're accepted there! The "average" students are going to Jr. college or Vo-Tech schools. I bet you'll see a lot more businesses hiring NON 4 year degreed students in the next 5-10 years as the pool of them gets smaller and smaller.
Peaches

Peaches
I couldn't agree more. I've had about 6 years of college, maybe more, but do not have a four year degree since I keep on changing majors and always got real hung up in math. Who's fucking idea was it to have letters in math formulas anyway, lol.

Cleo (dysfunctional)

IMHO, here's where the American college system screws up: They could very easily have the kids attend for TWO years and get what they need in order to pursue a job in their desired industry, but they get big $$$$ for making it a FOUR year degree. Case in point: My kid is taking tons of English classes, psychology, history, geography, etc. for a Computer Science degree. Yes, I know the "Now he'll be well rounded" BS, but a) he TOOK these classes in HS, b) he doesn't do well in them because he's a geek and c) at $20K a year, they're milking me for about $40K+ in classes that are basically useless for him. Same with me when I was in college -I was a psychology major and had to take a math class almost every semester....WHY??! Oh well, I dropped out, got married, then got knocked up (and yes, I did it in that order ;)).

There are the 2 year colleges, but at least in this area, they are a joke and laughed at by most of the academic and business segments.
Peaches

That would explain why Voodoo is so depressed.
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cheer up, mate,
we'll see you in 2 weeks!
Stan and Julia, you are invited as well, I'll confirm when I get home.
Serge

That would explain why Voodoo is so depressed.

Don't worry Voodoo there is a man out there for every man.

Cleo_LinkUP (WHAT THE FUCK!!!)

Cleo,
I tried being one man man, but it didn't work out
;-(((

sorry, Voodoo....
;-))
Serge

Serge
Nice to see that you have become a one woman man.

Cleo (dysfunctional)

Then maybe you didn't check your bank account because
i wired it... don't forget my interest ;-))

Timon

how I borrowed
you money to buy your new Honda S2000 ;-))
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i would never borrow money from you LOL
i am scared of boltcutters and school of pb
cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

I can't get over how nice Emi is.. how did you find her Serge?
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actually, I am a victim of her corrupting my mind....
she was telling me in Italy the benefits of "short and sweet" encounters, I was slow, and 5 years later I still can't get the concept
;-)))
Serge

Come on cj, tell them the truth about how I borrowed
you money to buy your new Honda S2000 ;-))

Timon

There is a whole bunch of new programs arriving.. with pre-paid financing from sexhit :)))

Optional
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damn! if I was younger, I'd throw my hat into brokerage game myself,
SexHit DOES bring something solid and well forgotten into this business...ahhhhh...where is my 40?
;-)))
Serge

Dont let the cat out of the bag Serge!! There is a whole bunch of new programs arriving.. with pre-paid financing from sexhit :)))
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ok, NOW i'm going to be doubly careful of these applicants LOL


cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

LOL

serge, I will be honored to share the market with someone inspiring and innovative ... it will be nice to be challenged, especially by someone I respect :-)

the 100k rumour is untrue!!
I held over all applications over 50k until week 2 of the promotion. Smaller webmasters have been approved this week to ensure they get a chance. If we did the big deals first up, timon would have tried to take it all :-)))

cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

I wanted to stop in and thank MIkeAI & katie, Billy & Dee & the rest of the Hirise crew for inviting my family and I out to the crawfish boil. It was my first and i assure you, not my last(if you will continue to have me)!

---------------------
and...Voodoo, Sharky came a looooooooooooong way, baby,
he is a formidable opponent now,
I was impressed!
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Serge, I've waited a long time to hear these words:-)

It was nice to see everyone, and meet some new faces. I finally got to meet the famous Edd! Nice guy.. even though he is a little pushy when wanting steak! lol.

Serge, Emi - great seeing you both again! I can't get over how nice Emi is.. how did you find her Serge?

Grimm, Noah, Luke, Sig and everyone else we met, great seeing you... if you ever make it to Tampa, look me up:-)


We ended up hitting Bourbon St last night. we were surprised to see flashers and a "marti gras" spirit still there. In Tampa once gasparilla is gone, it's gone! We ended up at the piano bar "howl at the moon" to finish the night off.. a very good time.

I am glad I followed someones advice and wore old shoes out though... damn dirty streets! hahaha.

Thanks again.. time to head to the airport:-)
sharky

rumor has it that Timon got $100,000 prepayment from you and using it to prepay for his
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Dont let the cat out of the bag Serge!! There is a whole bunch of new programs arriving.. with pre-paid financing from sexhit :)))

Optional

Just a little messy!


Eric
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Eric,
you probably were sucking on the wrong head
;_)))
Serge

cj,
are you trying getting Timon engaged in "my piss stream id bigger than yours"?
;-)))

go get him, girl! I'm sure this one will be a lot of fun to watch!
;-)))

(rumor has it that Timon got $100,000 prepayment from you and using it to prepay for his ;-)))
Serge

serge, not just that, the payout is ALMOST as good as ours!!


cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

Must be important issue in the biz!
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wait 'till Tuesday,
from what I've seen in pre-view, he IS a talk of the town
;_)) Internet barely survived first generation of consoles, the second generation gonna put the net to it's kneez
;_)))
Serge

I was right! but in NO you were "europeanized"!
;-)) timOn sounds more sophisticated here!
;-)))
Serge

Damn going out and partying on the night that they mess with our clocks is a double whammy.

After last night I guess I will need to trade my Vette in for a Hog and grow a gut, no more gym for me. I've got this big pile of phone numbers all written on beer stained napkins so I guess I will have a new boyfriend by this afternoon right after I go pick up some leather ridding attire.

Cleo (dysfunctional)

Looks like it is Timon everywhere Cj.. the man has spoken and you have been calling him the worng name ;)

Optional

Mike & Katie- Thanks for a wonderful weekend. You were great hosts!

Master Chef Billy with help from sous-chefs Dee & Ed- very impressive work, I'm a crawfish convert!

Sharky- good to see you & Crystal again and your BBQ gets better & better!

And special thanks to Mike's bitches for making me feel like one of them! Kisses girls!
Emi

accent on the first syllable

Timon

TP, in australia, its also timOn LOL

cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

It's TEA-mon ;-))

Timon

In Miamin he would be TimOn



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I say TEE-mon

Hey we talked about this on friday too :)) Must be important issue in the biz!

Optional

i am lucky enough to get a sneak peek of this week's announcement by timon and i'm pretty impressed. :-)
innovation is NOT dead :-)

serge, timOn i am pretty sure
cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

Timon,
we have bet going in New Orleans...

is your name tImon or timOn?

where is the accent on?
Serge

ooooh this could become a serious wager here ...

I think something like having each others exit path for a day would be a nice prize :-)
cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

Seems like a fair race CJ, you have been given a good head
start to compensate for your handicaps...

What's the prize?

Timon

I hope you have deep pockets :-))
signups are expensive these days!!

:-)

10k a day? wow, that's a big goal ... wanna race to 10?! :-)

cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

Well not all of it, just a very large part. There are only so
many daily signups available in the world so the 10,000 signups
a day I am claiming as mine will have to come from somewhere ;-))

Timon

I bet that deep down inside all you really want is to be
a good dilligent house wife who keeps the house nice and
clean and cooks a wholesome meal for her CPA husband...
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*getting back onto my chair*
thanks, i needed a good laugh :-)))

np, i have enjoyed keeping your spot warm!! so you are planning on taking over my spot in the bath??

cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

Yep my first hint is that I'd like to thank you for keeping
my spot warm while I was in semi-retirement for a while,
I hope you don't mind me taking it back next Tuesday ;-))

Timon

I bet that deep down inside all you really want is to be
a good dilligent house wife who keeps the house nice and
clean and cooks a wholesome meal for her CPA husband...

Timon

timon, hows your new project coming along? nearly ready to share a few hints with us??!!
cj (vaginator) Next week, i'm getting serious. 1.8 million left to give away!!

and its 'carla jayne'
with a 'y'
:-)


cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

yes i'm an elitist snob ...
:-))))


cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

but i am sure you agree CJ that you are not "the average Joe"...
or Jane in your case ;-))

Timon

but 'good career' and 'good salary' are relative ...

i've always had expensive taste, and went for the highest paying jobs, even when i was studying and working in a bar. I did the same amount of work as those in other hotels earning less, but I guess they were happy with $12 an hour ...

i've never even graduated formally from my degree .. i have no piece of paper that proves i even did the course! and i spent too much of it drunk to remember what i learned ...

many people do college degrees and spend 30 years working as an accountant with a 40k a year salary ... i'd go fuckin insane if that was the opportunity i'd created for myself by attending a 'good college'.

eek, i'd probably be married with kids by now and a husband who worked in finance!!!

HAHHAHAHAHAHAH

cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

A college degree is a pretty good start in life for the average Joe.
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It is just the current system... i agree most people need formal education but once a person has been taught how to learn how to look for the things that they need to know... then they are best set free to do it ... Dont have a better system in mind... I was lucky enough to go a very good High School and think that helped but I know now I would be far better armed in this world if i had done a degree rather than race out of school at 15
Optional

cj, I was talking about it from an economical perspective...

Not many people will have a good career and a decent sallary
without at least a college degree.

Timon

colin, one of the sydney webmasters was telling me about the dali he bought in new york ... i was most impressed.

--99.5% of all people won't amount to shit if
they don't get a proper education.
--

depends on your definition of proper education ... i think part of every high school certificate should be work experience on either a) a farm or b) in hospitality

more important skills to learn there than in a whole 12 years of school.

cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

Opti

A college degree is a pretty good start in life for the average Joe.

Timon

This is difficult to do "on your own" as we tend to get easily distracted by other things before getting to teh really deep things.
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I definately agree, i've done a few short courses recently to get that 'structure' I needed to learn the information properly ...

however, the BEST way to learn something is to actually give a shit about it ... if you enjoy something, you will seek more knowledge ... its good to have dicipline, but why devote all your time to something you hate?!

cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

99.5% of all people won't amount to shit if
they don't get a proper education.
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But is college a proper education?

Optional

Regardless of a few examples of people in our business
that made $15 million bucks without a high school
diploma... 99.5% of all people won't amount to shit if
they don't get a proper education.

Timon

I went to the Salvador Dali Museum in St. Pete FL yesterday.

http://www.salvadordalimuseum.org

Amazing!
Colin Insite. With Insight.

The Internet is better than college in some respects. Definitely a great tool. Definitely *knows* more than your teachers.

A great teacher should convey methodology as much as knowledge; both in thery and by example. Methodology of science, methodology of history, methodology of psychology, or whatever.

Another advantage of school is you stay focused on a specific subject for an entire semester. This is difficult to do "on your own" as we tend to get easily distracted by other things before getting to teh really deep things.


Colin Insite. With Insight.

i should have attached that pic to my email ....


LMAO
cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

But you didn't end up in Kinko's, you ended up in a bath tub
with a blowup doll, a joint and a bottle of Bourbon...

You have come a long way ;-))

Timon

TP, yep, that's all I got out of college too :-))))

my lecturer's all told me I would never get anywhere in life and that I would spend the rest of my life working in a kinko's (I did a commercial art degree). I wrote an email to him a few years ago to tell him what I was doing and never heard back!!! wonder why?!?!?!?!

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!!!!

cj (vaginator) 8 days left!

How many people on this board went to college?
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I didn't... was desperate to start making a million.. I thought the kids that wanted to study at university were mostly doing it as they were too lazy or unmotivated to go out into the world yet....

Thats what I thought then...

Optional

Yup that is true. Most of my college was a waste of time. Except for the neverending sex on mind altering substances in a consequence free environment and the beer drinking of course. I took some courses to graduate but don't remember what they were.



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colin, what a sad state of affairs the school system is in.

My sister was one of those students who just didn't like studying. She's great at a lot of things, but none of those are 'tested' in an exam environment. She barely passed school and was unable to get into most colleges, even though the career path & course she choose had NOTHING to do with the maths and science subjects she failed.

How many people on this board went to college?
(yes, we know who the brilliant academic's are LOL)

I remember getting to year 10 and having to choose subjects that would decide my education path for the several years after high school. I made myself sick with stress not knowing exactly what I wanted to do ... and there was no Internet really back then ... Why should you have to make those kind of decisions at 15 when the world changes so fast that the career you choose at 15 might not even exist when your ready for the work force?


cj (vaginator) $1 812 200 remaining in the LARGEST EVER PREPAY!!

* A national survey by Rutgers' Management Education Center of 4,500 high school students found that 75 percent of them engage in serious cheating.

* More than half have plagiarized work they found on the Internet.

* Perhaps most disturbing, many of them don't see anything wrong with cheating: Some 50 percent of those responding to the survey said they don't think copying questions and answers from a test is even cheating.

Survey Comments:

* "I actually think cheating is good. A person who has an entirely honest life can't succeed these days."


* "We students know that the fact is we are almost completely judged on our grades. They are so important that we will sacrifice our own integrity to make a good impression."


* "I believe cheating is not wrong. People expect us to attend 7 classes a day, keep a 4.0 GPA, not go crazy and turn in all of our work the next day. What are we supposed to do, fail?"


Colin Insite. With Insight.

Man.. I am bummed I missed the Crawfish Boil..

:(

I would have loved to squeeze Billy's tail..

Billy will you be in Vegas next weekend? Let me know and I will bring xtra condoms if you are going to be there!!


chris/pornoman Need FPA's?? Contact Me For a GREAT Price!

oops.. I meant enormous feet
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hehehee....

OIC... thought you may have had an enormous schlong for a minute there :P



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Yup with steel noses, I call them my Commy Kickers ;-)

Timon

http://www.orionent.com/u/store/vietnam1.jpg
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Are those really big shoes you have on Timon?


Optional Elegant sites listed here

yeah i think it's the fly buzzing around to the jazz music that makes it cool.


mutt

Hey that bee is pretty cool ;-)

Timon

Europeans are amazing at design.

http://www.rullkoetter.de/english/index.html

that's pretty elegant. and no gay jokes cuz i used the word 'elegant'. I couldn't think of a better word.

mutt

Thought I was some ugly old fat guy didn't you ;-)
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no, just old...

:-)))


cj (vaginator) $1 812 200 remaining in the LARGEST EVER PREPAY!!

Then I guess I'll have to try harder ;-))

Timon

lol Timon, Not Possible!!!
:-))


voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

You seem pretty hateful today voodoo, what's the problem
did I hurt your feelings yesterday? :-)

Timon

You mean sober people see a fat guy when they look at that pic?

It was my pic, not yours!

Timon

Cleo,

No wish to know, no need to know.

voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

voodooman
How do you know unless you try it?

Cleo (dysfunctional)

it's clubbering time
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And you think IM gay???
Keep your damn "club"
as you call it away
from me.
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

What are you doing up so late?
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My friend Pawla decided that I might enjoy being dragged to ever redneck biker bar that can be found in the west side bowels of greater Fort Lauderdale. They say that unless you try it how do you know if you will like it. I can now say that I do not enjoy hanging out in biker bars and I know this for a fact because I have done it.

Cleo (dysfunctional)

Thought I was some ugly old fat guy didn't you ;-)
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Dude, she was drunk when she looked at your pic.
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

Ok time for the gay basher night shift,
voodoo it's clubbering time!

Timon

DAYUMN!!!!
Timon, from this distance you look kinda cute ...
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Thought I was some ugly old fat guy didn't you ;-)

Timon

Damn Cleo,

What are you doing up so late?
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

Guess it is time to go to bed and dream,

The dream police
Slogan: "What is on your mind?"
The airwave boys
Junkies won't get radio time
The purist league
White trenchcoats in pre-war style
The aging queens
Mister won't you stay a while?

In death row with Harlow
And others like you
I point my finger of hate
At your picture and love you and love you
The radio is talking
Is it you or me?
I must admit
It's far too late to dial police

What is your name?
We are the end of the line
Her eyes went out
Dreaming "overdose on time"
Hey you old grey eyes
Don't practice dying for real
The only one
September she knows I can feel

Cleo (dysfunctional)

This is what happens when people eat bugs.

It's all the frogs fault.

Cleo (two girls, one body, no problem)

out of respect to the frog many people have taken a vow of silence and won't speak until the frog is given back his voice.


mutt

awful quiet:)
grimm (Blow Me)

Vi kender alle ordet perker, og vi ved alle hvad det betyder. Det er lavt og det vil altid være lavt. 2 danskere, rigtig og forkert dansker.
Troels

.pdd files can be opened in Photoshop...


photo

does anybody know what program you need to open a .pdd file


thanks in advance
evian

Wow what a day, hope to have some pics up later : )

For some strange reason I am covered in mud from head to toe : )


Billy (Oprano Sergeant at Arms) Crawfish were um um good !

I had a great time Mike! It was a lot of fun.

Great food, Great People!

Crawfish arnt that bad to eat either. - Just a little messy!


Eric

Serge we could end off being realted by marriage!! :-)


Mike AI

oh, wait, are you talkin about
bar-b-que?
hahaha just kidding
:-))))
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

Emi, It would be my pleasure.
:-))))
voodooman (Do you beleive I am straight?)

Granny is everyone's Granny - that is how she is!


Mike AI
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yeap, and we even solved Middle East crisis between craw fish and hamburger! She also asked me tell my father to drop his g/f and show her his charms!
;_))
Serge

Voodoo, may I join in "experiencing your best"?

I've been dying to get your meat in my mouth for months!
Emi