"the poor don't need help, they need condoms."

HAHAHAHAHA ;-))

Timon

Colin:

Exactly! One can play the victim or get off their ass and make things happen.

Everyone needs a little time in the gutter. I'll prolly never have RB or Levi $$, but I'll have enough to make the neighbors jealous as hell.

Coming from a guy who at one point lived without furniture for two years and slept on the floor (damn I'm glad I survived my 20's).

I look at it this way: there are two types of people:

1) the ones who will bitch about how bad they have it and continue bitching until they die. (self inflicted victims)

2) the ones who bitch about how bad they have it and risk everything to get ahead. (bankruptcy or Valhalla) ;-
Shawn PrimeNiche

colin - no prob. talk to you then. have a good time.
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

The height of MORONIC behavior seems to be when you think you are so much smarter than everyone else that you become self defeating."
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is a definate PEARL and confucy is a living proof of it
Serge

Hi again..I did make it back here! My main computer is in the shop so I am limited to my crappy 400 on dial up. We have been discussing MORONS over on the other board. I thought I would share my thoughts on what a morons total acheivement since it is used commonly when somebody says "why did that guy do that"
The height of MORONIC behavior seems to be when you think you are so much smarter than everyone else that you become self defeating."
Enjoy!! I love the "pithyness" here!
Win

Jonas,

Amanda is awake. We're getting ready to leave town for the day. Talk to you within next few days.
Colin 4 Free Bucks. For the hard working webmaster!

colin - call me when you get a chance. and good point.

I have always believed, the poor don't need help, they need condoms.
jonas (zOOted - 8 Hot Gay Sites to Promote, Serge's Favorit!)

what's happening on oprano lately?! i see lots of stimulating discussion ...

love that gumbo!
****************************

I like my coffee turkish...and you?

;-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Serge

yeah....what he said!
MrCash! $35 for a free trial?

what's happening on oprano lately?! i see lots of stimulating discussion ...

love that gumbo!

evening opranauts!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

Colin, you hit the nail on the head...

That is exactly why I respond so aggressively to people
saying the poor need help...

I once was poor too and I helped myself...

Timon

I won't be around much today, but I have something I've been thinking about and want to share it before I leave today.

When someone comes to Oprano like yesterday spewing forth arguments that people need to be "helped", given welfare, etc, there is a reason why they are so agressively condemned and attacked.

From what I know, many of us Opranites grew up poor, some even impoverished. Many of us were on reduced or free lunch in school. We started out into the world with one very strong asset, a belief that no matter what, no matter how difficult it got, no matter what anyone did to us, no matter what happened, we were going to succeed.
We were going to out-work, out-smart, and out-last everyone else.

Many of us also, I know, have had a business failure or been extremely close. We have had our asses handed to us. In spite of that, back to that work ethic, we worked hard and persevered. We got back.

So next time ya come back to Oprano
with that philosophy, you might wanna keep this in mind.




Colin 4 Free Bucks. For the hard working webmaster!

Timon,
professional charge backers won't use it
;-))
Serge

http://usa.visa.com/microsites/verified/index.html

Interesting, I wonder if any of the adult processors
will implement this...

Timon

It's illigal, so who cares. Then again...how much did Michaal Milken walk away with after all was said and done? ;)
Shawn
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he lost his freedom,
he lost employment in the profession he loved and enjoyed,
he lost his tu-pe...

ain't pretty picture
;-))
Serge

Shawn, that's what makes it funny ;-))

Timon

Timon:

It's illigal, so who cares. Then again...how much did Michaal Milken walk away with after all was said and done? ;)
Shawn

In Holland when a drug dealer get's arrested they
calculate their total earnings from their criminal
activities and then tax them 60% income tax...

Drug enforcement laws are not too stiff in Holland so when
a large drug dealer thinks he got off easy with a 12 month
suspended sentence he is often very unpleasantly surprised
with a $1,000,000 tax bill AFTER all their assets have been seized ;-))

Now that's gotta suck ;-))

Timon

Serge: exactly! hehe :)

I rememnber one of the greatest skits the George Carlin ever ran and it had to do with the 3 eocial econimic classes:

1) the purpose of the wealthy is to make most of the money and pay the least amount of taxes

2) the purpose of the middle class is to make a good portion of the money and pay the majority of the taxes

3) the purpse of the lower class is to scare the living shit out of the middle class and keep them showing up for work every day.

Sad but true, except for the misconception of the wealthy paying the least amount of taxes...
Shawn

Timon,
...and I'm looking forward for a day when I can pay 173 millions in taxes a year
;-))
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

Shawn,
the key word is "LEGALIZED"
;-)))
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

Serge: you DO have deductions!

**stock market loss carryover -3000
**

That equates to "legalized gambling losses" Something that pulltab gamblers will never achieve :)
Shawn

Look at it how you want, I see paying my tax bill at the
beginning of the new year as parting with my beloved
Euro's and eventhough I won't starve without that money
it sucks ass to cough it up ;-((

Timon

Torone,
I gotta find the way for you to make more on the net than trucking, I like chatting with you way too much!
;-))
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

A misconception the poor have about the rich is that
they don't mind parting with large sums of money just
because they have plenty of it.
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a greater missconception that the poor have which is often at the root of discontent is the notion that an economy is a "zero sum" system... where nothing is taken and nothing is added... meaning that to have money, you have to take it from someone else, or it has to have a negative financial impact on another.
JR

Serge,
Naturally!;)))
Torone

Timon,
I am into my 4th sip of coffee and I can see it clearly now!
you right!
;-)))
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

Gotta go. Gotta be there by 0700 (CST).
Torone

Serge,
#1 had 4 sisters, #2 had 6 sisters, this one has only one. Now, I am dodging daughter's sister-in-law...;)))
Torone
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Torone,
aren't we supposed to love sisters like we love ourselves?
;-)))
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

A misconception the poor have about the rich is that
they don't mind parting with large sums of money just
because they have plenty of it.
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absolutelly correct!!!!!
NOBODY likes parting with money, NOBODY!
but....

Timon, taxes are NOT parting with money!!!!
Today I earn less than the taxes I paid in 1999.

Guess,
would I pay my today's taxes or
rather "part" with what I was parting than?????
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

Serge,
#1 had 4 sisters, #2 had 6 sisters, this one has only one. Now, I am dodging daughter's sister-in-law...;)))
Torone

If you had your coffee this morning you might have
noticed that it was a clever pun rather than a referrence
to a pissing match ;-)

Timon

I didn't say it was a piss, I was just referring to you as
"the pisser" which is a well deserved title...

Timon

Serge I don't agree...

A misconception the poor have about the rich is that
they don't mind parting with large sums of money just
because they have plenty of it.

Nothing could be further from the truth, people with a lot
of money want more money, not less money...

Timon

Remember if you still want to win the NatNet Hoops contest you MUST get your picks for this weekend's quarterfinal games in by 7:30 PM ET!
http://www.opranoplus.com/marchmadness

Each game in this round is worth 8 points. Go 4 for 4 and HiRise Tim only goes 2 for 4, that's 16 points you picked up on him. It's CRUNCH TIME!!

They say the restaurant business has the highest casualty rate of any. Dunno if they include franchise type restaurants in that tho.
mutt

Sykk,
No new proggy...can someone tell me why this damned stuff took most of my hair, several teeth, and my sunny disposition, but seems to have fertilized my beard?
Torone

"The Pisser vs. Larry Flynt" ?
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is INCORRECT.

there is no "vs."

it wasn't a piss, it was an interview, as Oprano views are well known and documnented and bringing Larry Flynt' views into the open was the idea and I believe we achived the goal.

you think I'm gonna piss with Jerry Falwell if the show happens?
;-))

nope, I am much more interested in HIS views than what I think about it
;-))
Serge

So you think Bill Gates wouldn't rather keep his tax money?

Timon
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Timon,
money on one's mind only when they are in short supply...
how much thought do you give to ...air around you?
how much time a day you spend thinking if you have enough of oxygen to last you your life?

does it answer your question?
Serge

Speaking of Flynt...

Where can I find a recorded copy of "The Pisser vs. Larry Flynt" ?

Timon

Ken,
I have an idea and Larry Flynt can help making it happen....

whatta you say to interview on the FlyntRadio with...
Jerry Falwell?
Serge

So you think Bill Gates wouldn't rather keep his tax money?

Timon

Hey Mutt,

The message thing is running on the march madness on submit again..

I sent you a very caring message..
chris
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man you are sicker than i thought chris. I can't do what you asked, i'm not that limber anymore. Meni might be interested in making your fantasy come true tho.




mutt

Let's ask Bill Gates if he minds paying his taxes or if
he feels he has so much money that he can miss the $5,000,000,000
yearly taxes he has to cough up? ;-)

Timon
*************************

Timon,
do you mind if I tell you waht makes Bill Gates tick?

it ain't money anymore
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

Gov't people...Why the HELL don't you do something about this spam? Mine is running over 100 per hour this am.

Gotta go shave. back shortly...
==================================

well, if you'd buy from me the first time, I wouldn't have to send the other 99 ;)))))))


shave?
are you opening a new proggie too? ;))))))))
SykkBoy all in the name of, all in the name of making bank, for bank and bank, I'd sell my soul

Post # 68250
is a TRUE pearl! in it;s entirety!
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

mutt, that's why I've decided to wait to open up my own little restaurant...I got out of the restaurant business to avoid the 12-15 hour days...if I opened one, I'd be back to those days ;)))
SykkBoy all in the name of, all in the name of making bank, for bank and bank, I'd sell my soul

hahahahhaha,
you lucky having so many "sisters" around,
I love them like my own too,
and been caught once during the "expression of love"
;-)))
Serge $50 payments on April 5th!

Serge,
LOL!

Gov't people...Why the HELL don't you do something about this spam? Mine is running over 100 per hour this am.

Gotta go shave. back shortly...
Torone

you look at "empty" part of the glass,
I look at "full" part
================================

I look at the glass ans say "hey, who the fuck drank my water?"

on that note...I'm off to bed...I'm in Arizona with the kids for the weekend and it's almost 5am here and the kids awaken at 7....
SykkBoy all in the name of, all in the name of making bank, for bank and bank, I'd sell my soul

Let's ask Bill Gates if he minds paying his taxes or if
he feels he has so much money that he can miss the $5,000,000,000
yearly taxes he has to cough up? ;-)

Timon

Just donate my fee to some charity Sykkboy, send an underprivileged kid to wrestling school.

Biggest reason most small businesses fail is people don't have any clue going in how much work it's going to be, plus they are undercapitalized, under researched. People think to themselves, 'my it has always been my dream to own my own coffee shop, i can sit on a stool all day long and chit chat with all the people who come by my little shop'.
Pretty much my whole family, aunts and uncles, were or are small businessm people. They worked their asses off for at least 20 years before they could come up for air and start enjoying life a bit. People think owning your own business means freedom, ha! it's like a prison sentence. You better love whatever it is you're doing or selling cuz it's going to be your life for a long time. Or you go bankrupt.

who has the toothache? Serge?
mutt

"you can't fight city hall."
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you can but...chances of winning are small and chances of life ruined and bitternes becoming modus operandi are much higher
Serge

Serge,
No, different old lady. The one you're thinking of was #2. This one's sister has never been around me that much. BTW, I subbed 'Torone' for my real name, there. This one don't call me that; because #2 gave me that nick.
Torone

Serge, if I had to choose between $10,000,000 for my Cafergot
pills or sitting out 3 days of migraines I'll go for the
migraines ;-)

Timon

Serge,
What is it they say? Cream always rises to the top?
Torone
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the exact Russian expression is:
"Shit never sinks"
;-))))
Serge

Re your last response to Timon...
"you can't fight city hall."
Torone

is that the sister you did or am I mixing it up with some other stories you posted?
;-)))
Serge

Serge,
What is it they say? Cream always rises to the top?
Torone

Personally I think the more you have to pay the more
it hurts no matter how rich you are ;-)


Timon
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Timon, no.
let me mess with your head a little, you might like it on the long run
;-))

you have headache. pills to get you rid of heaches cost money.
would you save on pills?
or go for the most expensive ones to clear your head fastest with least side effects so you could make more money with clear head?

you look at "empty" part of the glass,
I look at "full" part
;-)))

eternal struggle os optimists and pessimists
;_))
Serge

On the lighter side...
I overheard my old lady talking to her sister in Ca. the other day. "(Torone) can do things with ropes you wouldn't believe!". I think she was talking about tying down loads on the truck...
Torone

In fact, I would like to nominate that for pearldom.:)
Torone
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Torone, thanks but
I find way too many "sergisms" there in the section,
I don't think it's fair to the rest of the posters

I think I'll go for the new section instead:
Serge's moronic pearls
;-)))
Serge

"one can spend his times and efforts (and money) fighting IRS tooth and nail or..
spend the energies on making so much to not to care what's been paid."
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Personally I think the more you have to pay the more
it hurts no matter how rich you are ;-)


Timon

But yeah, basically if you can't beat 'em, you gotta outsmart em' :)
Shawn
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Shawn,
I "think" I outsmarted them by having no deductions.
I think I have the most boring income tax in USA

Income +
real esate taxes -
stock market loss carryover -3000
-----------------------
net
tax payment

that is it
;-))
Serge

Serge,
This is the 'take' I was referring to...
"one can spend his times and efforts (and money) fighting IRS tooth and nail or..
spend the energies on making so much to not to care what's been paid."

In fact, I would like to nominate that for pearldom.:)
Torone

Serge,
I think it was something like that. I guess these people aren't used to having multitalented individuals report for work on time, properly attired and ready to get the job done...
Torone

Torone, I can't complain....as I see MY own problems were the factor of my poor skilled accountant rather than IRS fault.
Serge

is there any reason why MakingBank
not using ACHdebit for check processing?
===========================

I don't know, not my department, but I'm sure bubba@makingbank.com could answer any questions on that ;)


SykkBoy support pornographers, send your traffic here

Serge:

you're correct in that the second approach is more relaxing.

What pisses me off so much is that it's a continual "chip way at the stone" process and that our "fuck taxes (boston tea party) has turned into all out extortion by the federalies if you're successful.

But yeah, basically if you can't beat 'em, you gotta outsmart em' :)
Shawn PrimeNiche

They keep calling me back...
Torone
**************************

damn!
wasn't that what Michael Corleone was complaining about?
;-))
Serge

Serge,
Poor record-keeping goes hand-in-hand with IRS problems. By itself, it accounts for most of the other 50%.
Torone

all in the name of, all in the name of making bank, for bank and bank, I'd sell my soul
*****************************

is there any reason why MakingBank
not using ACHdebit for check processing?
Serge

Funny thing about the chem plant thing...I was supposed to work for them for one day. They keep calling me back...
Torone

Those people HATE the small businessman, and account for about 50% of small business failures.
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I thought poor records keeping was a culprit, no?
Serge

serge, of course, it'll be up on Jesse Jackson's website for all to see...
SykkBoy all in the name of, all in the name of making bank, for bank and bank, I'd sell my soul

Serge,
It has cost them millions, already. I don't know what happened, exactly; but it is a very rare thing.

Your take on fighting the IRS is something everyone needs to learn before trying their own business. Those people HATE the small businessman, and account for about 50% of small business failures.
Torone

...but I'll see the money is put to good use... ;)))
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don't forget to post the scan of the reciept!
;-)))
Serge

Shawn,
there are 2 ways to look at what founding father intended and the realities today, and I got this lesson from my uncle who was born in this country (his father stepped off the boat in 1903) and retired with millions.

"Don't count what you pay, count what is left"

one can spend his times and efforts (and money) fighting IRS tooth and nail or..
spend the energies on making so much to not to care what's been paid.

I find second approach more relaxing
;-))
Serge

wow, I'm in the wrong business...Nancy Pimental went from a writer on South Park to co-host of Win Ben Stein's Money and then sold a screenplay, check the amount she was paid for it http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Pimental,+Nancy

I was poking around for info about this new flick The Sweetest Thing (hey Cameron Diaz and Christina Applegate in the same flick? weehaw)

anyways, if off to write a screenplay...you know how many AOL email addresses I gotta spam for spamwealth to make that much money? ;)))))))

Serge, I understand yuour concern, hence my goodwill gesture of donating mutt's money for him...the liberal n me can't allow him to keep his money gotten through "unsavory" ways..if he accepts that money, he's accpeting it froma pornographer...but I'll see the money is put to good use... ;)))
SykkBoy you're either with MakingBank or you';re with the terrorists

Torone,
and I bet you they'll spend more doing it than generators they could have gotten when they built the assembly line
;-)))
Serge

SykkBoy,
in the good 'ole YNOT days, Pushrod and me copyprotected "fuck you"
and charged $10 for every use on the board.

wanna see the picture of the house Pushrod bought from his "royalties"?

we take our copyrights VERY serious!
;-)))
Serge

Serge,
They're sending the valves, nozzles, etc, to various shops for rebuilding; and reaming the pipes out with a device they call a 'pig'.
Torone

Colin,
I caught mine early,
and don't feel a thing by now
;-))

my grouchy mood can be due to a lousy southern italian cousine I had yesterday...I am a nothern italian food man
;-)))
Serge

Colin,
Last time I had to have a wisdom tooth removed, they used Versed and Valium instead of regular anaesthetic. When I woke up, I wanted a six-pack to go...;)))
Torone

Serge, noticed I used "you';re" instead of "you're"

that was part of satire...I merely used his line in a starical way, as demonstrated by the extra semi-colon.....so under fair use for stire, I'm in the clear, but I will donate $10 to the democratic national committee in mutt's name as a gesture of goodwill (this in no way insuates my admittance of guilt)
SykkBoy support pornographers, send your traffic here

orone, how the fuck they gonna clean all this plastic????

don't people know the reasons generators were invented???
;-))

I am up early because today is one of my favorits days of the month:
interst is getting credited on money market acounts and I lone playing with my
"173's"
;-)))
Serge

Serge,

That toothache must be getting rough. I had to deal with a few this year too. Can cause your whole mood to flip to the downside. Can cause backaches, headaches, and depression.

I HATE going to the dentist and so
do most people. I swear they have figured out the ultimate reward system though. Percocets!
Colin We buy traffic!

You've used "173" for something else before. Just recently. What's the connection?
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Colin,
as I said before:
we haven't stayed at Holida Inn Express and have very limited capacities and knowledge to deal with "beautiful minds"
;-)))

I don't know...gotta be something, I can't explain it but gotta be something nevertheless
;-)))
Serge

Serge,
Please don't mention toothaches...side effects of the stuff I was taking.
Torone

Hey Mutt,

The message thing is running on the march madness on submit again..

I sent you a very caring message..
chris

I tried that...IRS has no sense of humor about such things.
Torone
************************

from my dealings with IRS.

Case study #1
I was hit with late payroll taxes payment penalties and my first acountant (my ex) was just sending them the money as soon as we got notices.

Case study #2
I fired her and got myself Professional CPA who..
wrote IRS letters and was able to:
A) kill the penalty all together with his letter that I am a moron and so was my previous acountant and morons shouldn't punished
hardly

B) he was able to get money back from IRS for the last fuck up my previous acountant made
(nobody told me that payroll taxes must be wired within 24 hours after payroll date due to amounts)

those money backs from IRS paid for his services for the years to come.

it's worth to deal with Professionals when it comes to
Taxes, tooth aches and marketing
;-)))
Serge

Heya JR,

Got yer note. Weird shit. Let's talk sometime in the next few days.
Colin :-) + :-( = Scott Fahlman

Sykk & Ulfie:

well, the first thing you have to realize is that the fed govt is in the $$ biz and those who don't pony up are destined for the wrath of the federalies.

regardless of what you think about Microsoft, just look at it this way (for the cynics). Prior to the last round of federal lawsuits which started in what, 1999? Microsoft contributed less than $300k to both political parties. Hence, big lawsuit. I FIRMLY believe that if they had been greasing the palms that there would have been no lawsuit or potential breakup of the company. Just goes to hsow you the cost of going about your business when you're one of the biggest $$ makers in the country.

Tobacco: well...the palms have been greased since the beginning of time however public opinion ruled and despite the gov't subsidies to the tobacco farmers, they raped tobacco companies. As much as I have tried, I STILL can't see the logic behind this other than the gov't has succeeded in financing the tobacco subsidies for years to come.

As far as the IRS, aren't income taxes still "voluntary"?? Try to "opt out" of THAT one! hehe :)

Basically the things the USA was founded on went out the door over 150 years ago. Didn't take but about a generation to turn our patriots into money grubbing political whores...
Shawn PrimeNiche

I don't know about everyone else; but I'm up early 'cause I gotta work today. The company I drive for has me rented to a chemical plant that had a small accident. Seems their power went off during a run, and everything is full of solidified plastic...
Torone

I tried that...IRS has no sense of humor about such things.
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I bought my first car at 15, from a guy who had it all figured out too. he did not think he should have to pay taxes at all. in the end, he lost everything.
JR

Serge,

You've used "173" for something else before. Just recently. What's the connection?

Everyone has their number.

I remember because 173 is a numerical anagram of 137, the inverse of the fine structure constant in physics.


Colin Who is Scott Fahlman?

What's everyone up to today?
Colin Who is Scott Fahlman?
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I have tix for modern ballet...I like this shit!
;-))
Serge

Hey, Serge!
I asked my doc about the saw palmetto and vitamin thing; and he says that it definitely seems to help.
*****************************

well...there is no clear evidence that it helps, but there is a clear evidence it doesn't do harm and...as you see here, I pee like a horse, so it's helping me
;-))
Serge

Torone, it is usually not a good idea to folow that advice
if you are going to get caught ;-)

Timon

SykkBoy you're either with MakingBank or you';re with the terrorists
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SykkBoy, this is a blatant violation of Mutt's copyrighted fraze...

please send him a check for $10 as a first time offender
;-))
Serge

Torone,

Good day. What's everyone up to today?
Colin Who is Scott Fahlman?