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Anjelus,

Apparently you haven't read "Ask Colin"

Q. People seem to piss and whine a lot on the boards. Why are there so many childish board fights in our industry?

A. One might think this behavior is particularly representative of adult boards but it is not. I took a good look at a physics board and a religious board this week and both had the same "childish" name-calling that our industry boards do.

Such behavior exists just as much in the "real world" from the streets to schools to corporate board rooms. Since it usually happens in such settings in such a way that it is not recorded, it is witnessed by a lot less people and is available only for a brief time. When it occurs on a BBS however, people can comment on it for months and everyone feels they have the right to comment on it. This is especially so as physical force is not a means by which someone can be caused to back down.

Human Nature. Nothing but. This is who we are.

Colin Ask Colin

MrCash! Thanks for the call... NOW I know! ;-)

bpj Blowin and Goin!

Hey what can I say, you're dealing with the kings of piss and
name calling is what we do for a living ;-))
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"PEARL" nomination!!!;))
JohnIP

Try Dig's, Board!

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Actually RedCash sounds more catchy...

Timon
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..and you don't expect free button from Oprano to promote the cause, don't ya?
Colin j/k Dig ;)

I'd never win a popularity contest
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LIAR!
you were asshole of 2001!!!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

and
name calling is what we do for a living ;-))

Timon
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Timon,
your fuck!
;-))

and BTW,
A inspired me to put something on top of Oprano board, give me few mins
;'_))
Serge

You are better than that, and so am I.
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No, I am not,
I am a heartless bastard who doesn't give a fuck about personal feelings and calls a spade a spade.

I'd never win a popularity contest, but I can always live with myself.

best of luck travelling to your Utopia.com see you in 10 years...

NEXT!

;-))
Serge

But I'm stunned at the speed and ferocity the (I thought) intelligent people of Oprano stoop to namecalling and mockery.
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Hey what can I say, you're dealing with the kings of piss and
name calling is what we do for a living ;-))

Timon

another one bites the dust!
MrCash! $35 for a free trial?

Glad I could amuse you serge.

29 by the way.

I must say I'm a little surprised. I don't mind being disagreed with. i don't mind being argued with. I welcome it.

But I'm stunned at the speed and ferocity the (I thought) intelligent people of Oprano stoop to namecalling and mockery.

If you want to argue, disagree, or agree to disagree, fine. But this sort of juvenile behaviour is beneath you, serge.

You are better than this, I've seen so many times before.

I just wish my whole contribution to this discussion hadn't been degenerated into being misquoted and misunderstood, then mocked personally with no reason.

You are better than that, and so am I.

Bye. I won't be back. Doubtless I won't be missed.

No doubt the next comment will be a lame remark about what a tool I am. Enjoy.
Anjelus

well Sergey
I'm not familiar with our stock market but I WILL comment on ICPT's purchase of iBILL.

"Wow"
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

what part of ibill could POSSIBLY be worth that amount of money?!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

I would like just once for a large company to say "fuck the shareholders"
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I don't think that somebody who is not familiar with our stock market should comment on ICPT's purchase of iBill
;-)))
Serge

I would like just once for a large company to say "fuck the shareholders"

John_Cotac,
I hope you are not reading this nonsense now?
;-)))
Serge

Especially multi nationals with rep offices in poor countries
have generous budgets to hand out money charities at the
discretion of the local managers...

Timon

Anjelus, all I can say is quote from BobX:

hahahahahahahahahhahaah
;_)))

now you sound really funny,
how old are you?
Serge

Anjelus,

All large corporations donate money to charities...

Timon Crimson Cash - Coming Soon!!

Sigh...

Yet more...

Alright. First of all. I AM NOT A COMMUNIST. Some of my ideals are similar to communistic ideals. Some of my ideals are similar to catholic ideals too, that doens't make me a catholic.

I NEVER said anytihng about the redistribution of wealth. NEVER EVER EVER. Once again you're making things up to fit me into a Communist perspective.

Opti - Can't sleep. I gave my bed to the poor. : )

Why is there a contradiction? I've been making a pretty good wage. I said that to make it clear that I'm not "poor" or disadvantaged.

And I'm doing work for extra money. To pay the bills, add extra income. Buy some computer games. (I don't actually drink beer. Sorry to shock you all. I'm a commie AND a liar.)

I am on a good income. Not a VERY good income. Why? Don't want it. Don't want to work for it. I have had many opportunities. I made the decision to stay on my current income, rather than sacrifice my time, my life and my family for my career.

I don't need vast amounts of wealth to be happy.

I just need a few computer games : )

No, I don't believe all people should be paid equally. What a stupid idea.

But I believe that to a degree we should be self-redistributing. If corporations gave a percentage of their profits to charity, if PEOPLE gave a percentage of their income to charities, or someone else's need, surely the world couldn't help but be a better place?

People who work harder DESERVE more money. I am not arguing that. In fact, I believe that people should be encouraged to earn more money, as it is entrepreneurs and business people who create jobs, markets, economies.

My issue is with the notion that $10 000 000 isn't enough when I can fuck over everyone I know for $12 000 000.

I would like just once for a large company to say "fuck the shareholders and the margins. Let's do the right thing".

It will never happen, but I can dream.
Anjelus

make that was... now passe... ;P
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That's what i want everyone to think!

MrCash! $35 for a free trial?

I think all that dick sucking has improved your English! ;-)))
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I am not a communist,
I won't pass ANY way which leads to my self improvement
;-))
Serge

BPJ! that's because you don't call ME!

I do everything anyway!

jim AT mr-cash.com
MrCash! $35 for a free trial?

Hey! Where's Nick! ..isn't he supposed to deflect all spam accusations?
MrCash! $35 for a free trial?

its HIP these days to be a spammer
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make that was... now passe... ;P
Opti Its Old Hat Anthony/Nick out with old.. need new fad

Mornin Oprano!

Serge, I thought the interview was excellent last night! I think all that dick sucking has improved your English! ;-)))

Jim at Mr-Cash - dude how the hell can I get in touch with your tech guys??? You've been having password probs on xxxteens for WEEKS and can't seem to get anybody! This number SteveW gave us for Greg doesn't work 800-282-3807. Please advise!

Hey Wig... damn, gold looks like it's about to bust a move for us! ;-)))
http://charts3.barchart.com/chart.asp?sym=GCJ2&data=A&jav=adv&vol=Y&evnt=adv&grid=Y&code=BSTK&org=stk&fix=

bpj There's GOLD in them hills!

Spammy is as Spammy does!
MrCash!

It's the only correct method to be fair to the little guy too...
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Fuck the little guy(and Runk too!)

Do you know how much insurance on a Ferrari is?
MrCash!

Redirect?? Fuck that cut him... bloody spammer.. I can supply your evidence ;)

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its HIP these days to be a spammer

;)
Forest

mr-cash, where should I redirect your payments?
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Redirect?? Fuck that cut him... bloody spammer.. I can supply your evidence ;)

Opti I'm not homeless but I will sleep rough for 2 Million

cj, you should run a script that processes payouts according
to the following formula...

total webmasters in program = X
combined payout of all webmasters = Y
indidvidual payout = Z

X / Y = Z

It's the only correct method to be fair to the little guy too...

Timon Crimson Cash - Coming Soon!!

timon, you are right ;-(
I'll stop payments to mr-cash immediately. he has enough money. mr-cash, where should I redirect your payments?

+++++++++
to Runk
;->
Runk Gay Traffic? Give it Up!

Serge,

Don't let some prison time deter you from doing the sane thing...

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

Timon Crimson Cash - Coming Soon!!

timon, you are right ;-(
I'll stop payments to mr-cash immediately. he has enough money. mr-cash, where should I redirect your payments?

:-))
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

is that you stop supporting
capitalist webmaster programs that distribute money unfairly
by sending the larger amounts of money to the bigger
webmasters who have enough money already....
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Timon,
I am affraid my kids lock me up in institution if I do that
;-)))
Serge

I am sure I can work something out with Mike then, maybe he'll
trade onions and toilet paper for advertising space...

The only small request I have is that you stop supporting
capitalist webmaster programs that distribute money unfairly
by sending the larger amounts of money to the bigger
webmasters who have enough money already....

Timon Crimson Cash - Coming Soon!!

and THAT is where you cross threshold from employee to business owner!!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters
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from the day I started "employment" it was a race to get out in hindsight :)
Opti I'm not homeless but I will sleep rough for 2 Million

Well how would you expect me to pay for it otherwise????

Timon
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just ASK MikeAI,
promoting communist ideas and causes is one of his hobbies
;-))
Serge

Holy shit, terrorists closer than I thought. "Terrorist hunt hits poultry processor"
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Great, like it's not bad enough we have to dodge the dead chickens on 575! ;)

Peaches

"If only I was paid based on the dollars I earn and lose for this bloody company"
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and THAT is where you cross threshold from employee to business owner!!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

..and you don't expect free button from Oprano to promote the cause, don't ya?
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Well how would you expect me to pay for it otherwise????

Timon

An analysis shows the more a state
taxes, the less likely its population
is to grow.

http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=TAX-IMPACT-03-21-02&cat=AN

Go Figure. ;-)
Wig The choice has never been easier.

Did we see an answer to this..

What was the first www site?
Opti

Actually RedCash sounds more catchy...

Timon
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..and you don't expect free button from Oprano to promote the cause, don't ya?
;_))
Serge

Anjelus.. it is really late.. shouldnt you be in bed?

I dont know many jobs with a pay system like that.. When I was employed by others during my life I can't think of one occassion I didnt stop and calculate how much money I was earning for them and didn't think "If only I was paid based on the dollars I earn and lose for this bloody company"

I've been an employee only for 18 months in the last 10-12 years so maybe times have changed.

Opti More drugs will help

I am going to make a program called "Communist Clicks"

Every webmaster will make exactly the same amount of money no matter
how little traffic they send...
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Classic! LOL
Wig The choice has never been easier.

Actually RedCash sounds more catchy...

Timon

I have a great idea...

I am going to make a program called "Communist Clicks"

Every webmaster will make exactly the same amount of money no matter
how little traffic they send...

This is going to be big ;-))

Timon

Holy shit, terrorists closer than I thought.

"Terrorist hunt hits poultry processor"
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/terrorism/0302/0322poultry.html

Wig The choice has never been easier.

Colin,
glad you picked up this contradiction
;-))
Serge

Serge - Australia, actually.
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damn! this si one tough place to move from
;_))

...but you did it!
east coast...west coast, disgruntled australians, russians,
we ALL moved form Real Life we do not like and found ourselves Internet Chat boards as an alternative to real life
;_)

Webdad, thanks for this theory,
I like it
;-)))
Serge

"I have been working for years. Earning a pretty good wage." - Anjelus

"I'm looking for a bit of freelance design work, in adult or
non-adult web design,and am willing to do it very cheap. I've been doing adult design for years and am (if I do say so myself) very good. Need money for computer games and beer : ) " - Anjelus

Colin No entitity is needed to run an economy.

I have been working for years. Earning a pretty good wage.
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Maybe when you earn a "very" good wage
you will start to "not like" the
redistribution of your wealth. ;-))

I bet Danny_C would change tunes in a
heartbeat.

Wig The choice has never been easier.

About Post # 67875:

It is also interesting that Google built a search engine built upon connectivity, the principle that Berners-Lee was so adamant about, rather than simple text searches as most of the early internet pioneers that DIDN'T think hypertext and the internet could work together.

Colin 4 Free Bucks. Value Starts Here.

Interesting article on taxes...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/22/03145.shtml
Wig The choice has never been easier.

opti

Wrong. I have been working for years. Earning a pretty good wage. Why? Because I am capable of generating very good revenue for my employer.

Hypocricy? Why? I never said I don't do it. Just that I don't like it.
Anjelus

Yeah true Colin.. you just inspired me ;p

Opti

Opti,

Wasn't my fault. I was sleeping.

Colin 4 Free Bucks. Value Starts Here.

Email works again.

JR sent me a 1.5 Meg file and blew up my email box ;)
Colin 4 Free Bucks. Value Starts Here.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Opti

Seeing as Colin started it..

I think this is completely wrong too
It's always bothered me that people are paid not according to what they do, or what they are worth, but what revenue they can generate for their employer ...
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Like the thoughts of someone who has never been employed? Maybe a student.. or maybe someone who has always worked for themselves.

Opti

Serge - Australia, actually.

Wig - I have an abundance.. just trying to burn some surplus : )

Colin - Ah! A typo? I sometimes accidentally put my fingers a key to the right. Same sort of effect :)

I can take criticism. Hell, all of my political and social views is just the Simpsons with the funny bits taken out :D
Anjelus

"money is the only thing valued in our society."
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what about freedom and liberty?

hate to see how money we would have
without those. ;-)
Wig The choice has never been easier.

This is completely not true. It is the things that money buys that are valued in our society.

"money is the only thing valued in our society."
Colin 4 Free Bucks. Value Starts Here.

I was mistaken. I meant humor.

Colin: why do I need lessons in capitalism?

Colin 4 Free Bucks. Sweet Ass Ca$h. No Joke!

colin, email to you just bounced :-( got another addy?
i've got some tgp2 figures for ya
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

touche!

so, Anjelus , where do you live?
Serge

What's wrong with utopian ideals? It would be nice if we could all live in piece and harmony without laws or government. Of course... I'd give it a day before it all came crashing down.
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Pretty much answers the question. LOL

How about TOTAL waste of mental energy?
Wig The choice has never been easier.

Serge.

I'll save you the expense. I don't live in the USA. Do you think these problems and issues are USA only?

And actually, alaska sounds fine, except that it gets fucking cold there. Not a big fan of that.

Though if you're up for shouting plane tickets there's some places I'd love to go : )
Anjelus

opti, sorry darlin, but variety is the spice of life!!! why love local when there's so much world out there?!
(oh, but where are these bronzed aussie life saver men you speak of?)

cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

It would be nice if we could all live in piece and harmony without laws or government.
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cool, I have a place for you...
Alaska is 2/5th of USA territory and has only 1,000,000 people living there.

ask JR where you can build yourself a house and never see one government official again in your life.

your dream is easier to achieve than your think
Serge

I have a problem with the culture of greed that is the foundation of society.
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obviously you can't change the status quo..
do you have enough guts to follow your forefathers example and leave USA

LMK if you need money for the ticket, I'll buy it personally, one way
Serge

JR and Serge:

I'm a realist, and a cynic. I'm not in outer space. And I fail to see my opinion as "noise".

I have issues with the system. I have ethical problems with the distribution of power and money. Especially as they are more or less the same thing.

I have a problem with the culture of greed that is the foundation of society.

I never said anything about "liberating me from the hand cuffs of the power and authority hurting me so badly". Please don't put words or opinions I didn't say or hold into my mouth.

And as for your sure road to suicide, I don't think you're right.

I don't always like going to work, for example. But it's a neccessity, and I see the need.

Just like I see the need for society, and even the need for it's flaws. But that doesn't mean I don't see those flaws. And that doesn't mean I like them.

What's wrong with utopian ideals? It would be nice if we could all live in piece and harmony without laws or government. Of course... I'd give it a day before it all came crashing down.

CJ - DAMMIT! Now I wish I hadn't cut out part of my earlier post. 50K isn't rich. 50K is the area fucked the hardest. I think they make a new hole for it.

I believe the only fair system is a flat tax. Australia's tax system is fucked. The bracket system DISCOURAGES people from earning more money, working harder, succeeding.

The "rich" I am referring to are people running corporations and filling executive positions, getting big bonuses, extravagant fringe benefits. People who can pay accountants to funnel money into offshore companies. People who make a fortune but only claim a tiny proportion of it. Who pay tax on nothing. Largely because they'd get reamed if they were claiming what they actually earn. If you paid 10%-15% of what you earn, no matter what that was, I believe everyone would be better off.

Anjelus

We make so much money from Sexhit lately we will have to drive in that lane only!
MrCash!
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the best money of my life were when I paid MORE to IRS in "late payment" penalties than I make now before taxes
;-)))

I want my high taxes back!
;-))
Serge

Not to mention the fact that I am american =)))
MrCash!

mr cash, the payout figures are getting a little bit large :-)
our monthly payout is already 1 mil plus and the program only started in november ... i know a nice chunk has come your way :-) its always a pleasure working with you ;-)
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

serge, some of us just like sex with american men!!! :-)))
cj (vaginator)
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Oi!! Carla... WTF??

Do not export too much of our important assets! And what are these fine folks gonna thing of all us bronzed Aussie life saver men not being able to keep you happy at home?

top of the morning all..
Opti Its a sad sad day downunder

but scott's woman is a real hottie :-))
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...and I wouldn't have a problem doing her too, as a man or a woman
;-)))
Serge

The crack dealers and unemployed bums look to the rich as villians and bullies while relying on the federal government to bail them out time and time again while it's subsidized by the very corporations and entities they loathe and despise.
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just the crack dealers and bums????

I saw Evans trying doing exactly that yesterday,
"I'll have Larry Flynt impersonator at my show",
but when he needs C&D in a hurry-
he runs to Larry Flynt's attorney
;-)))

what a dumb ass!
Serge

Could somebody tell me what the hell a Runk is?
MrCash!

but...if I were a woman,
I'd rather do ScottPB
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gotta agree with ya there ... but scott's woman is a real hottie :-))
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

Runk,

If we could ever muster up the power to
knock the Federal Imperialst Govt.
from control, it would change.

Ain't gonna happen, though. Maybe a
revolution. ;-))
Wig The choice has never been easier.

our society says that once you reach a certain point of success you have to give most of it back?! sorry where was the 'easy ride for rich people' lane?
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When you find it LET ME KNOW!!
We make so much money from Sexhit lately we will have to drive in that lane only!
MrCash!

(sigh)
Personally, I blame society's disintegration on it's strict adherance to an antiquated class system. That's why the lower classes wallow in hypocrisy and roiling hatred for success and affluence. The crack dealers and unemployed bums look to the rich as villians and bullies while relying on the federal government to bail them out time and time again while it's subsidized by the very corporations and entities they loathe and despise.
Everyone wants to be rich, but the rich are villians.
As far as I'm concearned; the Dumbing Down of America is in full swing and the concept of working ethics is being systematically replaced by scapegoating and an almost tangible demand to maintain a skewed status quo.
Runk Gay Traffic? Give it Up!

serge, some of us just like sex with american men!!! :-)))

cj
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great!
I have an american passport!...but...if I were a woman,
I'd rather do ScottPB
;-))
Serge

I ain't scared easily. "Go to netpond" isn't the most savage threat I've ever recieved, either : )
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...and Meat says all trafic to Oprano comes from Netpond..
http://oprano.com/morons.html

Shma Oprano!
I beg people going there!
and you, confucy,
http://oprano.com/morons.html
say I don't care!
;-)
Serge

Does it bother anyone else that the poor get stomped on, the middleclass get fucked, and the rich get loopholes and tax dodges?
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we've just finished doing tax returns for my employees ... $50 000 annual salary is taxed a standard rate, once you hit $51 001, your tax increases by 10k per year ... 55k, increases to almost 15k per year ...

our society says that once you reach a certain point of success you have to give most of it back?! sorry where was the 'easy ride for rich people' lane?

serge, some of us just like sex with american men!!! :-)))

cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

Great Gumbo this morning! ;-)

DannyC there may be hope for you yet ;-)
I pissed hard on you, got your attention and the discourse of ideas and information now is flowing

Lots to get accomplished today, be back later for more exchange

best to all,

Vick and so on and so on and Scoobie Dooobie Doobie

Most of one side of the argument sounds
like the "poor Me/Them Syndrome".

No answers/solutions, just whining that
they don't like it.

That's Big! LOL
Wig The choice has never been easier.

Money isn't the best judge of a persons worth. But it seems to be the only one we use.
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damn...I have money,
why in the fuck name people call me a "goat fucker"????

how much more money do I need to be called "goat lover and admirer" instead????

damn....
Serge

I wasn't trying to change your political opinion, just your opinion of me as a moron
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if you can do that by continuing to talk, i will be pretty impressed!
JR

I ain't scared easily. "Go to netpond" isn't the most savage threat I've ever recieved, either : )

By the way, I wasn't trying to change your political opinion, just your opinion of me as a moron.

It usually takes years of intimate knowledge to realize I'm a moron, and I really don't like a first impression spoiling such a great future : )

And no, I don't think a $20 000 000 producer is worth average wage. As CJ said, how else do you pay people? And really I don't have an answer for that. But I don't have to like it.

One reason that it bothers me is that my mother is a nurse. She's spent the last 25 years looking after elderly and insane people. Now she's gone about as high as she can get in her field. But I'm earning more after just a few years. SHe made her choice, I know, but I can't help thinking that her contribution, and the millions like her, are horribly undervalued. Old people don't generate revenue, after all.

Money isn't the best judge of a persons worth. But it seems to be the only one we use.

Anjelus

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