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I think the bigger picture is really this?

The Federal Govt. is out of control, not one particular party. Like Torone said, just read the constitution.

Corporations are only playing the game on the playing filed that the politicians lay out for them -- same with the lower class. The politicians are forced to pander to two different teams in order to get votes/money (i.e. perpetuate their power)

IMO, the Constitution was designed so the Federal Govt. had limited powers to avoid this. The Framers knew what a monopoly would lead to. Even though they knew it was not going to be a perfect system, they rested the powers at the State levels because there would be competition amongst the States.

While Capitalism is not a perfect form, it is the best there is. However, I think it was Ben Franklin who said that our epublic / democracy / capitalist society would only last until the people realized they could vote themselves money. Then they would bankrupt the country.

Seems to me, that is exactly what is happening.

Wig The choice has never been easier.

JR, I'm done with him....I can be on the opposite sides of the fence with Danny_C, but at least we are at the same fence,
while this guy is just out in space somewhere.
I don't believe, like Danny_C does that it's society's job to get him back from "outer space"
;-))
Serge

Wel this guy was the exception, the next day I had him @ my cousins Elect. company and he is now a forman.

A definite exception.
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i'll bet the other 4 are still complaining about how they were dealt a bad hand in life!!!

>>I believe all forms of government are doomed to fail.

what exactly does a government have to do to fail? i don't agree with everything ours does, but ... i life in a country with amazing health care, my roads are clean to drive on and excellent education opportunities are available for most levels of interest.

granted, there are still substantial homeless and unemployed people, but there's also a social security system which allows you to earn $370 bi-monthly as long as you can complete a 'job hunt diary'.

which part above shows the governments failures?

a certain amount of the population is ALWAYS going to expect to live on handouts, occasionally (but rarely) a factory foreman will emerge from the group.
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

spicy gumbo today, huh?
Runk
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I say it beats the shit out of "wrestle-talk"
;-))
Serge

serge, shhhhhh.... Anjelus is fixing the world by addressing radically new ideas about oppression, unfairness and utopianism, let him concentrate.
JR

Corporate power is crippling america.
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very good point,
let's drink to pre-USA envolved Afganistan with NO corporate structures to cripple them.

man,
Danny_C makes ARGUMENTS, right or wrong, they are debatable ARGUMENTS,
you make just stupid noise...
;-(((
Serge

woo-hoo
spicy gumbo today, huh?
Runk Gay Traffic? Give it Up!

If large corporations couldn't make and keep large profits there
would be no vaccines, why would a large pharmaceutical corporation invest billions of dollars into research if they weren't able to
make a profit on their massive investment?

Timon

I don't really know any better system. We have to live in it. But I don't have to like it.
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that's a sure way to the suicide,
with outlook like that you'll NEVER find happiness in life and blow your brains sooner than later.

please spare mine when you do this,
I can live without your "liberating me from the hand cuffs of the power and authority hurting me so badly"
;-))
Serge

Corporate power is crippling america. Does it bother anyone else that the interest on Microsoft's savings accounts ALONE would feed, cloth, vaccinate, etc the entire third world? Or is it just me?
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Doesn't bother me, if MicroSoft was forced to donate their profits
to charity there would be no MicroSoft, and no technological advances because research into computer technology would become unlucrative...

What about the billions of dollars MicroSoft contributes to the
economy by paying taxes and creating jobs? Those jobs and tax
payments would not exist if they weren't allowed to be profitable...

Timon

Anjelus,
you aint; get scarryed easylly, don't ya?
;_)))

ok, hang around as you please and best of luck to you changing my opinion that $20,000,000 producer is only worth $32,000 average wage ...

I have a guts feeling I have better chance of convincing you that you might be worth more than just a beer and a song
;_))
Serge

JR,
first time my parents came to America,
they asked me some questions along Soviet propaganda lines about unemployment, soup kitchens and bread lines....

the questions stopped after we saw your guy with the sign asking for "work for food" right under the
HELP WANTED sign in the window of the store!!!!!

also a true story
Serge

I see Danny_C is making the old "corporations do not pay their taxes" argument. I assume he is talking about the large 'deferred taxes' balances on the balance sheets of corporations. I have heard that argument before from people trying to play Robin Hood.

If he knew anything about these deferred taxes, he would know they are not ACTUAL taxes owing but just an accounting mechanism to recognize the fact there are differences between accounting income and taxable income. The company PAYS their actual taxes owing according to tax law and the difference of taxes that would have been payable on ACCOUNTING income is set up as a deferred liability....the 2 numbers will catch up with each other eventually.

Monk

... it wasnt a very scientific experiment.

i was just testing the theory that i was both bored and easily amused.
JR :-)

Serge: Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'd like to think I'm not a moron, and expect to be around long enough to change your opinion of me too. And I'll stay here, rather than netpond. The people are smarter here, and I know more of them : )

I have my own opinions, politically and societally, and if they're not popular (which they aren't) I can live with that.

I think you've misjudged me, though. I'm not a communist, socialist, fascist, etc. My political view could be best described as a cynicist.

I believe all forms of government are doomed to fail.

Democracy assumes the publics opinion is worth hearing. Monarchy assumes the monarch isn't mad/incompetent. Communism assumes people aren't lazy. The problem here is that these forms of government assume a basic goodness in people, that is frequently proven false.

Capitalism is the only one that CAN work. The reason? It assumes people are greedy. And guess what. They are. Not everyone. But enough people are greedy enough.

As for Oprah, my cat, Arnold Schwarzennegger and my $80 000 000 a month paycheck, you're absolutely right. Whatever your point was.

I said exactly what you contradicted me with. My point was not that it was not the case, but that it is unfortunate that things have to work that way. That money is the only thing valued in our society.

Nor do I have any answers, solutions, or anything helpful to really add.

I will stand by what I said earlier. And I still agree with Danny_C.

Corporate power is crippling america. Does it bother anyone else that the interest on Microsoft's savings accounts ALONE would feed, cloth, vaccinate, etc the entire third world? Or is it just me?

Does it bother anyone else that the poor get stomped on, the middleclass get fucked, and the rich get loopholes and tax dodges?

Does it bother anyone else that corporate bail-outs cost more taxpayer money than hospitals and schools?

CJ: what else should their pay be based on?!?!??!

Um. I don't really know. That's a pretty good point. I think that my main problem is not the financial issue. I suppose that my problem is not neccesarily that people aren't paid, but that money is considered the only important thing. We're raised with the concept that we must have money, and our society is entirely based on the notion of getting the best school results to get the best uni to get the best job to make the most money.

I don't really know any better system. We have to live in it. But I don't have to like it.

Colin: why do I need lessons in capitalism? I've got a pretty good idea what it's about. Sell products or services for money. Done! There are things I don't like about capitalism. There are unfortunate aspects to it. There are also GOOD things to it. But I still live in it. I still need to pay rent and buy food.

Anjelus

i once parked my Mercedes on the sidewalk next to a guy in Seattle with an "i'll work for food" sign and held a sign that said, "need new gold wheels for my benz - god bless" .... and people yelled at me. :-((

(true story)

but most people thought it was funny (about 90% were visably amused) and were yelling "right on" and honking their horns and smiling and waving.

JR

Holy shit! I had to bolt after the
Serge / Larry interview and when I
get back to the board I have 3 hours
of reading.

Serge, Congrats on a great interview.
Also, like the ants comparison? ;-))

Hey MikaeAI... I saw that. ;-))))

Wig The choice has never been easier.

Geez, you did GOOD! When I went, I couldn't get ANY!!!

:-)))
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Wel this guy was the exception, the next day I had him @ my cousins Elect. company and he is now a forman.

A definite exception.
R3K

Damn I broke it..

What are you guys doing calling you bookie and trying ton convince him you said Indiana over Duke?

I speak for most of N.C. When I say "What?"

R3K

Go to you local welfare line, pick out 5 people and tell them you have a job for them, it involves physical labor abut they will be paid for what they do, tell them to meet you at a x place at a certain time. I have done this to prove a theory. Only one person has showed up on two attempts at this.
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Geez, you did GOOD! When I went, I couldn't get ANY!!!

:-)))

Webfather

I stopped reading here. What happened next?
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My house stays really clean and my wife and I have more quality time
;-))
R3K I never sleep with the help...

uhhhmmmm anyone have 20$ i can borrow?

i will pay you next friday.
JR

What consequences have their been as a result of ideas and concepts you have helped to popularize?
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i invented the click thru program!!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

R3k,

I stopped reading here. What happened next?

"she is 19 years old, I don�t give her free room"
Colin 4 Free Bucks

The original idea of the world wide web, according to Tim Berners-Lee, is that it would model the human brain. Anything might be connected to something else depending on the changing content at each place. It's all about the connections.

So each server is a neuron basically. Or, each website if you want to think about it that way.

I'm leaving Lee now ...

We use our connective brain to digest the information of the Global Connective Brain. So we have brains using a brain basically. And each brain of ours changes the global brain and vice versa.

There must be strange feedback mechanisms going on in this relationship. In what ways have each of US effected it? I bet many of us have had a much more profound impact on the global brain than we think. Think back to the last 5 years. What consequences have their been as a result of ideas and concepts you have helped to popularize?
Colin 4 Free Bucks

The people who are struggling just to pay their bills, despite working 2 or 3 jobs, would be able to get out of poverty.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Poverty may be a majority, but these people that are working 3 jobs to pay their bills are the MINORITY.

Look around man, stop looking at things as you wish to perceive them and look at reality for once.

I have Helped people out alot, I always have a room for people, 3 weeks ago my wife and I moved in a single mother with 2 kids, she is 19 years old, I don�t give her free room and board she does work around here until she gets enough money to buy a car, then I will loan her the money to get a apartment. But if one second she stopped trying to help herself, I would do nothing more than kick her out.

I have done this on 7 different occasions with different people, 3 have fully repaid me all expenses I put out, 2 are paying and 2 were kicked out back to the street because their failures were their own. I see this so often, people in my town come to me for help, but I see they have done 0 to help themselves.

When people stop being lazy and asking for handouts then they can make it, when they realize that their failures are their own then they will have motivation to help themselves.

Go to you local welfare line, pick out 5 people and tell them you have a job for them, it involves physical labor abut they will be paid for what they do, tell them to meet you at a x place at a certain time. I have done this to prove a theory. Only one person has showed up on two attempts at this. People make their own paths. It is not our responsibility to walk beside them and guide them. To think so is putting to much faith in humanity. I have faith in myself and in people who earn it.

Just my ramblings� but things I know from personal experiences.

R3K

Webfather .. there were. I already nominated one and thought it would get ridiculous if I kept nominating others.
Colin Be better than your neighbors!

The good ole days.......
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I dunno....I never forget the wisdom of my 85 years old uncle who went thru burning in the tank, 2 years of coming out from german occupied territorries, escaping german concentration camp, went thry Stalin's interrogation rooms and who always says
"I keep on going just because I'm curious what TOMORROW will bring"...

I gotta admit..I am much less curious, something did happen to my optimism of yournger days
Serge

You will no longer be able to walk anywhere in public without being tracked from the moment you leave your home.
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true...
cameras are now at the toll boothes,
airports, intersections and...take a look at the road you drive your car...
do you see squares cut in the middle with one going to the side?

what do you think those are?
;-)))

today they probably just measure metal and general car movement, but what can they trace tomorrow?
small sensor installed in your dashboard and receiver in the pavement and vou-a-la!
I'll know where your car is at any given moment.

Yes, privacy goes down the drain....
there is pro's and con's in that developement and I see reality of today warrant them and the uncertainties of the political climate making them worse than Orwell could ever imagine.

HOPEFULLY I'll be dead when all those eggs come to roost.
Serge

Damn if there aren't a lot of pearls this morning.

Webfather

People don't want to be equal, they want to be better!

:))))))
Colin Be better.

you do make points and I'll be glad to "destroy" them one by one,
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:-))

Webfather

Danny_C,
I'll enjoy debating with you when you wake up, LMK when and I'll be all yours,
you do make points and I'll be glad to "destroy" them one by one, at the time when we can have dialogue rather than monologue
;-))
Serge

Unfortuantely life as we KNEW it is over. Orwell's 1984 was just 18 years off. Within the next few years I think there will be cameras installed in virtually every PROPERTY let alone every corner.

You will no longer be able to walk anywhere in public without being tracked from the moment you leave your home. Privacy? Maybe when you take a crap....but even then they have sensors thatn can tell what room of the house you are in from the body heat.

The good ole days.......

Webfather

Danny,

What do you mean by "Inner Cities"?
Which ones?
Colin "The invisible hand works best, he thought, when government played the smallest role possible in the economic system"

Damn, Serge.. NOW you're ready to debate. :) And I was about to hit the sack. Well, a couple of quick responses... the rest will have to wait until tomorrow.

Right now, my extra money goes to paying off debts. When I do have extra money and no debts, it goes to civil advocacy groups. These groups do much more for society than charities, because they change legislation rather than giving handouts for nothing.

Enron: there's more involved than just the risk of the stock market. There was fraud and corruption at the highest level. And whether or not Bush was directly involved, Enron was far too involved in policy making.

My solution to the poverty problem: simple, make the rich pay their taxes. People call me a Socialist, but I'm really calling for an end to a form of Socialism: corporate welfare. If corporations were to give their share, and were forced to pay a livable wage (anyone who works full time deserves at least something livable), then many things would be accomplished:

1) The people who are struggling just to pay their bills, despite working 2 or 3 jobs, would be able to get out of poverty.

2) The taxes paid by the corporations could be put toward environmental clean-up programs in inner cities, public education, health care, etc.

3) With the lower class making more money, they'll spend more money. The increased spending increases demand, and forces corporations to hire more people. Everybody wins.

4) More stuff that I'm too tired to list. :)

I think people may hear part of what I say and misunderstand the big picture: for the past several years, GM (for example) has not only paid $0 in taxes, but they've actually juggled their books so well that the IRS has owed them over 100 million dollars each year... that's tax payers money. Yet people get more upset when they hear about the black guy in the ghetto taking our tax money for welfare. Why aren't we so upset about corporations taking our tax money?

Also, through subsidizing, corporations get money to build stadiums, etc, while schools are falling apart just down the road. Couldn't that money be better spent than on free hand-outs to corporations?

People talk a lot about how "you should work for your money", but that's exactly the problem. The middle and lower classes ARE working for every penny they get, and getting taxed out the ass. Meanwhile, the upper class is raping the pot. Surely you can agree that some changes are necessary. Corporate influence needs to be thrown out of Washington.

I think it's a shame that corporations are buying out our elected officials, in effect stealing our Democratic power in Washington (citizen groups have been rendered virtually powerless in Washington), yet when somebody like myself speaks out about it, they get attacked by the very people who are becoming victims of the system. If you like getting screwed, fine, but I don't. And I care about the disadvantaged... maybe it's a weakness of mine, but it's not going to change.

It's also unfair to compare these philosophies to Stalin, bin Laden, etc. That's like those people who say, "Hitler was a vegetarian, and you sure don't wanna be like that guy." It's unfair, because you're leaving some important people off your list: Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa, Ralph Nader, Tomas Paine, Benjamen Franklin... these were all people who fought for the rights of the average person... of the not-so-wealthy.
Danny_C Adult Webmaster Gold

No,. but our economic system and ant colonies have many similarities.

Read all about it here!
http://www.buildinganempire.com/gold.html

"human spiecies are NOT ants"
Colin The pheromone of the free market. All about ants ...

Torone, 10-4!
;-)
Serge

Well, all good things must come to an end...Gotta go truckin'.:(

Serge, 10.9! Woo-hoo!
Torone

human spiecies are NOT ants
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Very true,

People don't want to be equal, they want to be better!

Timon

Serge,
My friend, you never cease to amaze me! Keep 'em coming!:)))
Torone

Here is my theory of
"equality, human nature, and why communism will NEVER work"

human spiecies are NOT ants, we are ALL individuals with our own talens and short commings.

America was founded by those who couldn't fit in the "norms" and felt "un-equal",
they left for a new life, while those with no spirit remained to "fight for equality" which can't be achieved.

among those who came from the "old world", there were some who couldn't fit in with the "new group" either and that's how West Coast got populated.

There is a reason why USA today has it's place in the world...it's it's people who did not believe in equality in Danny_C's sense from the get go.

good, bad...it's a reality of life.
Serge

Well said, Webfather and Timon!
Torone

Rick LOL ;-))

Timon

Colin,
"Pearl of EPIC proportions .."
Absolutely!

BTW, does anyone see a parallel with what the Liberal/socialist pols are trying to do? Look at civil rights, for instance...They can't guarantee civil rights for any group, so they take away the civil rights of everyone else. Same thing in other areas.
Torone

Got news for the world....

Lazy, morons, will never be equal. And why should they be?

Webfather

should we drink a toast for "equality"?
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We are ALL equal. The harder you work......the more equal you get.

Webfather

The ideology of communism is actually quite good I
think, it just doesn't work because it is incompatible with
human nature...

Why work 18 hours a day, 7 days a week to build a successful
business if you will earn just as little as the lady who
cleans your toilets?

A countries welbeing depends on enteprising entrepeneurs,
take away their rewards for their hard work and they won't be
motivated to make themselves and their country more money....

Timon

Communism will work once we have a robot work force. Mark my words!
Colin Capitalist Now!

Pearl of EPIC proportions ..

"Stalin couldn't make everybody equally rich, so he made EVERYBODY equally ...poor."

Colin Capitalist Now!

Comunists can look at the failure of that system and say that all it needed was more money. From where?
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They are thinking backwards, there was no money because they
were using a communist system which only works in theory
and has never been able to fulfull it's promises in any
country ever...

Timon

Colin,
I know what you mean...teachers complain; but they work for the gov't (indirectly). Same with physicists. Lesson there...
Torone

Well if anyone is unhappy with the current economic system
then North Korea would love to have you, I hear they
prosper in their financial equality ;-)

Timon
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Timon,
good example.
Stalin wasn't a dumb man and he was trying to make everybody equal
(except party apparatus and higher party echelones, who were just MORE equal than the others! ;-)

he couldn't make everybody equally rich, so he made EVERYBODY equally ...poor.

should we drink a toast for "equality"?
Serge

Timon,
Bravo! It never fails to amaze me that Socialists/Comunists can look at the failure of that system and say that all it needed was more money. From where?
Torone

It's always bothered me that people are paid not according to what they do, or what they are worth, but what revenue they can generate for their employer ...
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what else should their pay be based on?!?!??! the value of what you do and what you are worth IS how much revenue you can generate for your employer!!! i hate that the corporate work force has this attitude. your *worth* to a company can't be determined by a text book description of a job. lazy people expect to demand and receive.
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

Oh BTW guys, TJAY just emailed me a picture from prison:

http://www.goatse.cx/hello.jpg

Timon

Colin,
You forgot to point out that our gov't is actually nore Socialist than Capitalist these days; and that it is what we allow it to be (for now).

Also, that person probably is a pure Communist. He/she fails to realize that Capitalism=Freedom and vice-versa.
Torone

Did you learn that technique from Paulie from Good Fella's or Did they learn it from YOU!??

"oh, you had a bad month? Fuck you, Pay me!"

"oh, your kid needs braces? Fuck you, Pay me!"

:)
KC
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KC, don't be harsh on John,
he is a product of the environment and graduate of
Steve "where is your fucking domain I want" Cohen's school.
;-))

Serge

Well if anyone is unhappy with the current economic system
then North Korea would love to have you, I hear they
prosper in their financial equality ;-)

Timon

Teachers make nothing for salary so I gave it up and became a pornographer instead. A choice. Same with physics.

Though I wish teaching could pay me more than this, no one will listen to me!

Colin Who made YOU God?!

she'd be pretty stupid if she wasn't ;-)

Timon

Freudian Slip ...

Shoulda been ..

Isn't Oprah the CEO of her own production company, Harpo Productions?

The answer is yes.

Colin 4 Free Bucks

yet a firefighter only makes $40,000/yr while putting his life at risk
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when you embark on a career as a firefighter, you know what your maximum salary is going to be. you know the type of work you will have to do to make that salary, the risks involved and all possible moves to make it to the 'top'. you should know what the maximum potential you can reach after 15-20 years is and decide if 40k a year is your future.

you choose a career based on a combination of things ... money, interests, enjoyment, opportunities & skills. For some, money is the main goal, for others, the pleasure they get from the job is more valuable.

so unless i work really hard doing something life threatening I don't deserve to make more than 40k a year?!

>>In the richest country in the world, poverty should not be such a major problem.
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what good is a restaurant without a kitchen. where would a kitchen be without cooks. who would wash dishes without kitchen hands. how could kitchen operate without garbage collectors.

who will be a garbage collector for life ... who will be a cook, kitchenhand or manager ... who will own the restaurant ... and who will be the one dining in the restaurant every evening?

(i'll be the one calling for home delivery) :-)))

cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

Isn't Opran the CEO of her own production company, Harpo Productions?
Colin 4 Free Bucks

You continue to preach your every man for himself nonsense, and I'll continue to do whatever I can to fight for the disadvantaged. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.
Danny_C
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Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, bin Laden, Arafat,
they all fight for "disadvantaged"

you know well how those fights ended and untill one realises that "disadvantaged" are the only ones who CAN fight for themselves-
yours fight will have the same results as theirs:
lots of bloodshed with nothing to show for.
Serge

"KC,
have you paid your bills yet? "

John, I would hand deliver payment, before I ever let a bill go over due with "John, Where's my fucking money, Cotac"!! :)

Did you learn that technique from Paulie from Good Fella's or Did they learn it from YOU!??

"oh, you had a bad month? Fuck you, Pay me!"

"oh, your kid needs braces? Fuck you, Pay me!"

:)
KC

Yep it's pretty simple, why would Oprah take less money,
would her producers deserve the money she'd pass? ;-)

Timon

Anjelus,

You need lessons in capitalism ...

Post 1: "I'm looking for a bit of freelance design work, in adult or
non-adult web design,and am willing to do it very cheap. I've been doing adult design for years and am (if I do say so myself) very good. Need money for computer games and beer : ) "

Post 2: "It's always bothered me that people are paid not according to what they do, or what they are worth, but what revenue they can generate for their employer ... Unfortunately that's what happens when you have a Capitalist
government. "

Colin No more Mr. Nice Guy. 4 Free Bucks

And what about Enron? Did the shareholders get what they deserved because they weren't motivated enough to become corporate bigwigs themselves?

Danny_C
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Danny_C,
stock market always been a risk, since the day the first share started trading on the Exchange.

Whom are we to blame for trillions of dollars going up in smoke in internet bubble burst?

Should I blame God and Powers for CMGI going from $173 where I bought it for my kids college fund
to $3.75 where I sold it,
or should I blame myself for being greedy stupid fuck?

I blame myself, even though your "blames" are more pleasant for my ego.

Voodoo's father had $400,000 worth of Enron stock when ALL members of the family begged him to sell.

my cousin had over $500,000 of PKSI stock where she worked from the day one and I was begging her to sell at $124.

Whom should she blame for not selling when she could have?

God? corporate wigs? Capitalism in general?

please tell....

Serge

BTW, the reason some people make so much money IS because they can make a lot for their employer. That's called a free market.:)

Damn! I wish I was worth more...then I wouldn't have to get up at 4:00am and go truckin'!:)
Torone

And you've heard a lot!

"That's the dumbest statement I have ever heard...."

Colin More dumb statements ...

Sykk,

You have mail. Dark and Evil. Strange and Twisted.
Colin TGP2.COM

In the richest country in the world, poverty should not be such a major problem.

Danny_C
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...and what is YOUR solution?

critisizing is easy,
finding solution is yet another story,
I'd like to hear YOUR "marshall plan"
Serge

Slavdog,
LOL!!!
Torone

But I (or you, probably) don't work nearly as hard a firefighter... yet a firefighter only makes $40,000/yr while putting his life at risk. Miners make relatively little while putting their lives at risk.

Danny_C
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I say after 9/11 investment banking personnel working in high rise buildings are more in danger of death than firefighters and miners.

please elaborate your compensation theories in the light of the realities of today's world.
Serge

Take a look at Oprah. Does she deserve 8 million dollars? Hardly. Do the friends people deserve the hundreds of thousands (or is it millions now?) they get an episode? Hell no! I like the show, but seriously.
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That's the dumbest statement I have ever heard.... do they
deserve that much money, does Arnold Schwarzenegger deserve
$10,000,000+ per movie??

YES because the actors or talk show host is what sells the movie
or show and it generates a certain amount of money of which they
deserve their fair share...

Timon

Care to share what you do with your money?
--
every spare cent is donated to charity!!!
cj (vaginator) I'll share $2 million with homeless webmasters

I'm also relatively poor. I make decent money doing this, but I drive a cheap car, live in a small place - voluntarily, because I know I've been lucky.

Danny_C
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Danny_C,
I hear you....
obviously your income far exceeds your spending under those conditions.

Care to share what you do with your money?
Serge

Serge was good BUT Amber was VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRY GOOD!
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yeap...I had my hard on right after the third sentence I heard,
I LOVE AMBER!

Serge

Take a look at Oprah. Does she deserve 8 million dollars? Hardly. Do the friends people deserve the hundreds of thousands (or is it millions now?) they get an episode? Hell no! I like the show, but seriously.
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Anjelus,
Danny_C is not a moron, but you are,
and I suggest you move to netpond.

I'll gladly pay you or even your cat $80,000,000 per months if you can produce 81,000,000 in profits...
Oprah does it, can you?

no??

pick up your things and follow the directions,
"go forth and multiply"

Serge

Peaches,
thanks for all your help,
I don't know how you managed,
typing LIVE is not an easy task, I would never be able to do it,
thanks a million!
Serge

Trivia question:

What was the URL of the very first www site?
Colin TGP2. Still growing!

Serge, what terriblly bad thing happened on the Pusi
board that made you pull it?

Was FM unhappy about his ratings?

Timon
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Timon,
pusi board has been sold to the new owners ...it's now owned by dickie.com
;-))
Serge

5.How long till Serge fucks Big Mouth MikeAi like he has fucked over everyone else?
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I say as soon as Oprano starts making decent money.

I don't fuck people for peanuts,
ain't worth my time
;-)))
Serge

Serge, what terriblly bad thing happened on the Pusi
board that made you pull it?

Was FM unhappy about his ratings?

Timon

Colin, you know my new thing...almost there, so close I can taste it :)

also, anyone else interested in a Roto Baseball Team, let me know in the next few days. I'm creating a private league over at http://www.sandbox.com

SykkBoy

Did someone forget to pay their Oprano Advertising bill???
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Oprano bills always come with 1000mg dose of Vitamin E!
;-))
Serge

Will you try something NEW today?
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sure, I'll try floridian dentists for the first time
;-))
that's NEW!
and...
I'll try NEW 68 tomorrow:

you blow me - I'll owe you one
;-))
Serge

http://plumpers.com/bite.jpg
:)
Slavdogg
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you fuck!
;-)))
Serge

Colin, I've been working on something new for months...
I'll let you know more when the patent application goes through ;-)

Timon

Many years ago I ran into a gal who said she could bite both of her breasts at the same time. I thought this was odd. Being as young and na�ve as I was I told her, "I bet you can't". She bet me a drink that she could indeed sink her teeth into both breasts simultaneously. Although not too big a busted woman, she was quite round, I thought maybe it was possible. I challenged her and she accepted. The only thing I asked was that she let me use my Polaroid to snap the magic moment of truth or failure. Well, in the wink of an eye she ripped open her blouse and sunk her teeth into those nice, soft breasts. I didn't miss a beat and snagged the shot which will forever go down in memory of classic photos. I just found the photo and you being the good friends you are...I share with you today!!!

http://plumpers.com/bite.jpg

:)

Slavdogg

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Oprano's Original Flat Board

messages number 67801 through 67900

messages
number 67801 through 67900