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Mutt Saints play the Bills first game of the regular season in Buffalo. Wanna place a friendly bet this early ?? :-))

Yes Haslett is a class act, and a hell of a coach. We love him down here....
Mike AI when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:38:09 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6300


Hey Mike, I don't want Red to think anything less of me. We were in the "right" section of the quarter weren't we???


Ulfie when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:38:06 216.151.70.201 Post #: 6299




Yeah I saw the over/under for the Saints... Saints are also playing a first place schedule, which makes it tougher and probably will not sneak up on anyone this year.

I will go out on a limb and say without injuries ( which we had many last year - we lost start LB, and TE before season started. We then lost our starting QB after 11 games, Ricky Williams for last 6 games, our 2 starting cornerbacks, and startin full back, etc.. etc...) the Saints will go at LEAST 10-6.

They might not be NFC West champs, because the Rams are TOUGH. But they should make it to the playoffs.
They will be a better team this year then last year, but their schedule is much tougher...

I am getting excited though!!
Mike AI when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:36:46 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6298


Pittsburgh has produced the following talent:

John Unitas
Mike Ditka
Joe Namath
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Tony Dorsett
Jack Lambert
Jack Hamm

Not a bad list, eh?

The North will rise again. Chaaaaarge!

I need some sleep.


Ulfie when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:32:49 216.151.70.201 Post #: 6297



The over/under for the Bills is 8 WINS this season. Same as the 'Aints.
Bills got hit hard by the salary cap
and lost lots of starters on defense.
If the QB doesn't learn how to get rid of the damn football and stop getting sacked 7 times a game it could be a long season.

Good coach in New Orleans. A proud Buffalo Bill alum Jim Haslett.
mutt when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:31:45 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6296




HAHA Red, I will not make it that obvious girl!

Slow hand huh?? Hmmm sounds so tempting...
Mike AI when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:30:26 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6295




Sorry DotCom Cowboy, no drive by spamming. The golden rule here is contribute to Oprano, then use Oprano for timely annoucements.

Quid pro Quo...


Mike AI when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:29:30 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6294


Wow Red you work quick...
*********
True, but I also know when to use a very slow hand. ;)

I am going to have to send you a video of me so you can anylysis for any gay qualities... :-) just so I know I will not be hanging out with Mutt and Billy down in the wrong end of the French Quarter!
************
Just as long as its not a video OF you hanging out with Mutt and Billy down the wrong end of the French Quarter.
:-)


Red when you care enough to use the very best
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:29:22 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6293




Oh I can beleive it Penn is football crazy as a state - it is a religion! Lots of good player from around there though.

Football is big down here, but High School games rarely get that big of crowds... we do not have HUGE MEGA HS like up north and in Texas...

Texas it is crazy...

I am looking foward to this season with the Saints.... cautiously optimistic ( Only way Saints fans can be)...



Mike AI My mind is in the gutter, want to join me?
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:23:38 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6292


Mike, either you're a Steeler fan or you're the enemy. ;) Kordell could be a good quarterback but he's in a tough spot. Everyone gets compared to Bradshaw here. Hard to live up to a hall of famer that won 4 super bowls. That's a lot of pressure in a town where football is the DOMINANT sport. High school games here routinely draw 25,000 fans on a Friday night.


Ulfie My mind is in the gutter, want to join me?
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:19:10 216.151.70.201 Post #: 6291




Wow Red you work quick...

I am going to have to send you a video of me so you can anylysis for any gay qualities... :-) just so I know I will not be hanging out with Mutt and Billy down in the wrong end of the French Quarter!


Mike AI My mind is in the gutter, want to join me?
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:13:08 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6290


Edd,
The interview page is done and on it's way to you.

Red My mind is in the gutter, want to join me?
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:11:26 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6289


Ulfie I used to be a huge steeler fan when I was young - with Terry Bradshaw...

I know Kordell Stuart, he is a good kid... I hope he can get his act together this year.


Mike AI Great content.....
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:11:18 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6288




Mutt - Buffalo?? ouch... I am sorry. I do not know which is worse, getting to the superbowl and always losing or never going.

How are they going to do this year?? No more QB contraversy and a new head coach... but as Chris Behrman says NO ONE CIRCLES THE WAGONS BETTER THE THE BUFALLO BILLS!

hahaha


Mike AI Great content.....
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:10:15 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6287


Here we go Steelers, Here we go. The new stadium did wonders for the Pirates so I gotta believe the Steelers are going to beat the Saints in the super bowl this year.

This post is dripping with sarcasm...


Ulfie Great content.....
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:06:20 216.151.70.201 Post #: 6286



Mike I grew up pretty much right across the US border, bout 10 miles away from Niagara Falls. I've been a
Buffalo Bills fan since I can remember.


mutt Great content.....
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:04:46 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6285




Yeah it is my opinion that there are not that many KEY domains names that are worth that much. Especially when undeveloped. But some people think I am cheap.


Mutt - I saw your post about FOOTBALL... Since you are in Canada and cannot pull for Vince Carter who is your team??


Mike AI Great content.....
Fri, 27 Jul - 00:00:42 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6284


I was prepared to offer the tidy sum of $500 for it and I thought that was QUITE generous. If he does find a sucker to pay that amount I'll dump every domain I own to the same sucker and retire. ;)


Ulfie Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:57:35 216.151.70.201 Post #: 6283


Mike,

Thanks for the update on my son's activity. We had no idea of what he was involved in.

Funny that someone that is so open in public with his drug usage and open homosexuality would not tell his parents how he makes his money.

Funny how some people are. How did you find my contact info anyway?
Evan's Momma Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:42:52 194.117.133.9 Post #: 6282


Ulfie - what a joke, that guy ( dare I say it) must be smoking crack!!

150k for that domain name...

I wonder what Webfather would say?!


Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:41:15 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6281




BRad you are a porn star to me!!

I have seen Rick YNOT with his shirt off - he is a hunk of burning love!!
Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:40:21 66.21.168.227 Post #: 6280


Luke Ford has me listed as a male porn star......

Not sure what that says.
Brad Shaw Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:36:22 216.166.54.83 Post #: 6279


A little levity here...

The domain sextour.com is for sale. I have a project going that would work nicely with that domain. The cockholster that owns it wants $150,000 for the domain name.

My response:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GOOD LUCK!!!


Ulfie Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:36:17 216.151.70.201 Post #: 6278


It is obvious Mike and Brad are pussys.
Pussy Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:26:31 194.117.133.9 Post #: 6277



Known to his friends as Chuck, Tony Martino is a "burly and beefy stud," writes
Jeremy Stone, "who came up in the carnal movie industry in the mid '80s, banging
box alongside such workhorse cocksmen as Dan T. Mann, Shane Taylor and Billy
Dee. While they faded from view - as did Tony in the late '80s - this one came
back. He's bigger, more muscular and has more control now in the sheets than he
did in his young buck days."(AFW 96D p.42)

Chuck Martino grew up in Huntington in Southern California, the son of a preacher.
His parents divorced when he was one. He mainly grew up with his mother but
spent a couple of years with dad who pushed him to go to church every week.
Chuck, who has several half-brothers and sisters on his dad's side, says he
maintains a good relationship with his parents even though they do not approve of
pornography.
***********************************

From Luke Ford's site. He has YNOT Rick listed as a male porn star.
mutt Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:24:23 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6276


http://www.xxxmoviestore.com/Products/CHEEKS_10_The_Butt_Babes.htm


http://generossextreme.com/12900.html


Mutt I think Chuckie Martinoe must be a porn star, or Alien's step father... or both!


Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:09:31 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6275



yes i concur with Alien. A rousing
cheer from all for the return of Chuck Martino! A job well done sir!



um......who the hell is Chuck Martino?


mutt Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 23:07:21 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6274




Good for you Brad! I am giving Evan an honorable way to back down..... I hope he is smart enough to let it drop!!

Those who do business with Evan or asscoaite with him should advise him to check his ego at the door, and move on...

WORK IT OUT!!!
Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:56:44 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6273


I will also lay low on the Evan issue (well I will try) and see how it plays out, unless someone brings it up.


I am giving Evan 10 days for a public apology for sending me the C&D, after that point, all bets are off. I would suggest Evan call everyone he sent a C&D to and apologize for using such poor judgment.
Brad Shaw Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:54:15 216.166.54.83 Post #: 6272




BTW I went to see the score, the person who gave me the good review must not watch many good movies.

I found the movie to be slow... and the plot was OBVIOUS... camera work was shoddy as well.

Save your money catch it on HBO.


Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:53:35 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6271


Shalom to you too Todd.
I can't be the only JAP on this board though.




Red when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:51:16 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6270


Lets see how the Police in Miami feel about pot......

*******
Now that's opening a can of worms...Due to the well earned reputation of "incoming central" that S.Florida has earned thru the years, the boys in uniforms down here have absolutely NO sense of humor. Hell, drug busts clips have overtaken stupid driver clips on the nightly news. The "uniforms" are even taking news camera crews with them on the busts. It's like having our own S.Florida version of Cops.
Taz Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:50:19 216.77.247.93 Post #: 6269


So, did anyone learn anything from Diamond Jim's question and answer session?

I found out about http://www.yournichepaysite.com and while I know Diamond Jim reserves it only for special people, I think I will be looking into this innovative program.

I know there were some concerns abour the format, Serge and I have talked about it. I am open to suggestions from anyone... so please give me your 5 cents! ( IF serge was here it would be 2.5 cents you know he would shave)
Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:48:19 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6268




Mutt beleive me there are many hungry lawyers out there. Nothing more scary then a lawyer who needs cash, they will do anything.


I beleive we have beat dead horse enough... As far as I am concerned it is over with.

I have nothing else to say on the issue, it has been over examined as it is. It is time to move on with the reason this board was founded, BUSINESS.

Now, as long as other cockholsters let this issue die - I have nothing more to say. However, I do reserve the right to come back to this issue if provoked be it here, any other board, if I hear even the slightest inuendo. If any more C&D's get served, if anyone gets anything else from attorneys I will practice a scortched earth policy.

It is time we all move on... Not that we all have to play nice and be friends, but understand that there is a difference between making off colored jokes and bringing in attorneys.

I may think Evan is a limp wristed, spamming, cockholster - and he may think I am a homophobic narc. This is fine in my book...

I am reverting back to my moms Stick & Stones philosophy as well as the Rubber/Glue theorom.


Mike AI Great content.....
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:46:13 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6267


Hi all,

interesting reading on the board today, anyone need some 13 inch Bam dongs, let me know..:)

Red,
saw you post, wanted to say hi, great to see a jew gal with us:))

Shalom
todd

sextoyking 30% Commissions on all Sextoy Sales!
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:37:45 216.99.199.147 Post #: 6266


Vick you talk like that in November and who knows you might get lucky : )

Brad does this count as cheating on you ? ?


Billy Not gay but have lots of FREE content
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:26:40 216.77.234.57 Post #: 6265


Vick,
I grew up in Cherry Hill, NJ. Philly was my stomping ground during my high school through post-college years. After some time in FL and Vegas, I'm now in CA.


Red when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 22:05:12 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6264


"a lawyer would ever take a libel case of one pornographer against another to court"
Mutt - Pay them enough and they will ;-)

Red - ;-)
Are you from Philly?
I live in Baltimore and Philly women are usually ummm interesting (and very pretty)

Billy - But, but, but .....
You're soooo handsome
and not just on odd days ;-)


Vick Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it!
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:56:33 24.180.171.175 Post #: 6263


I love it on days when I see our logo on AVN:P
Tis so natural looking:P

Martino is back with our Sinister line of Video. I wish em luck with it, as he has done a good job in the past with us;P
Welcome back Chuck Martino:P
ALIEN Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it!
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:51:59 64.174.156.146 Post #: 6262



I meant one pornographer against another pornographer.

I think Luke Ford has been sued for libel before by at least one pornographer.
mutt when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:36:35 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6261



There won't be a lawsuit. NOBODY is that much of an idiot.
I will bet you can go through the history of American case law and you won't find one case of a pornographer suing anybody for libel or slander.
99.9% of pornographers know what they are and the arena they play in.
Only a complete idiot and a thief of
a lawyer would ever take a libel case of one pornographer against another to court.


mutt when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:33:29 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6260


From what I saw of the video and of the person in question they have no style or class
***************
Vick, on that, you'll get no argument from me, and yes most gay men have style, but not all. (trust me on that one.) I would never insult gay men. I love them.

You never slept with a gay man?
************
well ok...maybe I should amend that statement slightly. :-)

Red when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:17:32 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6259


Vick I know gay guys and you are no gay guy : )

Well maybe only on odd days like Brad : )


Brad please do not take that personal, I still love you : 0


Billy Not gay but have lots of FREE content
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:13:09 216.77.234.57 Post #: 6258


Whoa whoa whao

"Other than the men I slept with, every male I hung out with was gay."
You never slept with a gay man?
Well then we have something in common as neither have I ;-)

As for saying a certain person comes off as gay
Red ... Please
You are insulting gay men
I often am mistaken for gay (am hetrosexual, with no issues) for my style, intellgence, security with my sexuality and forms of expressing myself
Most gay men I know dress very well, are intellegent, witty and so on

From what I saw of the video and of the person in question they have no style or class
Vick Found money here!!
Thu, 26 Jul - 21:03:56 24.180.171.175 Post #: 6257


Mike, have you been thumbing through New York Times v. Sullivan, again? :-))

Dravyk Found money here!!
Thu, 26 Jul - 20:52:25 168.191.31.176 Post #: 6256


I have only been a pornmeister for a couple of years after selling a medium sized stock brokerage operation. I got bored so I started doing the adult thing. This board is one of the best things I have ever found. Violence, Sex, drugs and "cockholsters", this place is worthy of a f*cking soap opera.

I really thought that the stockbrokerage business was one of the dirtiest, nastiest places a human could choose to spend his time...this is even better. Dirty tricks, inuendo, legal manuevering...I feel like I am right am home...with people that think the way I was trained to think.

Problem is, I grew tired of it...and I am glad it's you all slugging it out and not me...15 year of it gave me gray hair and a kind of hollow look to my eyes. I am lots better now, and genuinely enjoying the ongoing stuggle...would really like it if Mr. Horo-whatever would join the fray and not hire a bunch of misery brokers to do his fighting.
letshunt when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 20:49:30 4.40.53.225 Post #: 6255


Maybe Red will qualify as an expert witness?

I myself always assumed Evan was gay or atleast bi, he was always hanging out with a bunch of guys along with his gestures and squeaky vpice.. I know that is stereotypical.
Brad Shaw when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 20:48:33 216.166.54.83 Post #: 6254


please excuse the typos. I just got new nails and they're longer than I'm used to. :-)

Red when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 20:33:42 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6253


http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/negril2/smokinghouse.ram

Ok I have to say something here. I don't know Evan. I've never met him and up until the players ball I had never even heard of him, so this is a completely unbiased opinion based soley upon what I've read on the board,(and I read every post.)and what I've seen in pictures and video.
As far as the pot issue, wll, that shouldn't even BE an issue, there is undeniable evidence everywhere.
But as far as the homosexuality issue, That is a more subjective opinion, however, I feel that my experience in this area qualifies my subjectivity to hold a little weight.
I was a theatre major in college. I worked as an actress in Philadelphia for 7 years. Other than the men I slept with, every male I hung out with was gay. I was an admitted fag hag. I was one of the few women even allowed in some of the bars in Philly and Atlantic City in the mid-late 70's.
I can tell if a guy will be hitting the bars, before HE'S even aware of it.
Now after watching this video, I gotta tell you, Evan, if you haven't been to the bars yet sweetie, it's just a matter of time. And if you are straight, then I humbly apologize, but you really do come off as gay, and I think it's perfectly understandable that folks would percieve you that way.
taking this into consideration along with all the pictures and video of you getting high, don't you think this lawsuit is ridiculous. Put your pride aside. Think of the money you're going to spend, that's asinine. And Mike is right, think of discovery.
oh, and on the deli meats thing, If a Jewish princess like me doesn't find that remark to be raciest, I don't think a judge will either.
Ok, I'm done my rant. just take the advice of a Jewish mother, drop the suit. Go out for a little nosh, you'll feel better.


Red when you care enough to use the very best
Thu, 26 Jul - 20:23:43 64.171.146.244 Post #: 6252




I am about to head out to see The Score, I heard from a reliable source its a good movie.

I was thinking, I read that JoeE posted this " Evan is a pothead and is proud of it, OK there! "

Does this mean that JoeE will be getting a C&D from Evan's attorneys??


Mike AI Secret Video file of Evan using his cockholster
Thu, 26 Jul - 19:52:28 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6251


http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/negril2/smokinghouse.ram

What is that when they both put their mouths in the joint. It looks kinda gay to me. Who is Barbra??

Brad I think this would go over well in court.


Mike AI Secret Video file of Evan using his cockholster
Thu, 26 Jul - 19:17:18 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6250




Vick, that was funny!

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/negril2/smokinghouse.ram

Anyone know what this is about??

What would Evan's attorney say about this video?


Mike AI Secret Video file of Evan using his cockholster
Thu, 26 Jul - 19:15:32 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6249


cock smoker?
I own cocksmokers.com


Meni Jenna Cash, we'll give you JJ content
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:59:56 24.218.204.233 Post #: 6248


"Sign Up and show me this baord has some value....I am still waiting to see one sale from a post made here."

Nah that one is too easy ....


" I have a J.D. hanging in my office"
You have a juvenile delinquent on your wall?


"It has NOTHING to do with homosexuality, other than the implied inference of fellatio. "
Having fellatio performed on me a few times I can state the act never has it involved homosexuality, unless 2 women were involved. Also I have never performed fellatio so am not sure why fellatio is being seen in a non hetrosexual context


To assure no further frivolous litigation please phrase everything in the form of a question
Examples

Even, do you prefer male reproductive organs in your anus or your mouth,
if in your mouth do you perfer if they were in your anus first and you have to clean the orally?

In this image http://www.freshphotos.com/personal/smokeweed1.jpg
Were you Evan pretending the object you were smoking was a male reproductive organ?
If so may we then deduce that you are a cock smoker?
Vick I could go on for ever but .....
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:30:27 24.180.171.175 Post #: 6247


Alien, let me get back with you this evening, had a busy day. Got some work done today, I promise!
Brad Shaw Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it!
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:29:59 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6246


Ohh and shit I am totally extatic about the overall stats for my program:P
For July to date I got an overall
1:607! This average vers all resellers to date.
Some are at 1:50 with a total of 10 sign-ups.

For a non free trial site, softcore tour, with the $7.99 trial...
I myself am impressed:P
ALIEN Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it!
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:27:31 64.174.156.146 Post #: 6245


-Brad
Any thoughts about the email I sent ya this morning?


ALIEN Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it!
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:21:44 64.174.156.146 Post #: 6244


Lets see how the Police in Miami feel about pot......
Brad Shaw Evan needs / wants choclate cocks ?
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:16:56 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6243


KB..
"Kinda like being at a concert and someone smokes a doobie and passes it to you in front of security or a cop....bottom line they say, put it out! No one gets arrested."

I guess I am going to have to prove to you this statement is 100 % wrong.

Maybe....




Billy Evan needs / wants choclate cocks ?
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:12:15 216.77.234.57 Post #: 6242


I suppose some people are gettin a little nervous about Sin City startin in some business with the right people...
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Thu, 26 Jul - 18:11:25 64.174.156.146 Post #: 6241


BTW, I will supply the donkey. Or do you like Llamas better?
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Thu, 26 Jul - 18:05:55 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6240




Dig420 you made an excellent point of what people can find when digging. Be it private investigators, lawyers, CPAs.

Look at the latist from Condit. Here is a public politican and it is amazing to see what is coming out about him.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

I think that Evan will recognize that he is opening himself, xpays, as well as everyone he has ever had contact or done business with.




Mike AI Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it with 50/50 Recurring!
Thu, 26 Jul - 18:27:12 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6239


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=xpays.com+spam&start


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=xpays.com


There are 100's more. Sure alot of spam complaints for a progam you never see banners for when surfing, unless you are surfing geocities, webjump, and aol.com.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:59:54 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6238


KB, go out on a limb for me.

I can assure you there is no apology coming out of these fingers. How about if Xpays does not pursue this in court within 3 months, you and Evan ride off into the sunset on a donkey?
Brad Shaw Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it with 50/50 Recurring!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:54:34 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6237


Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Date: 2000/02/13


Porn and spam seem to go hand in hand, so I'm always happy when I get one of
these. This is my 3rd XXX white hat nomination this year. An AOL password
phisher put up a few sites at freestation, after opening an affiliate account
at VividVIP.com (commisions for XXX memberships). Within 3 hours, I got the
following from cs@vividvip.com:
--------
Subj: RE: High-Quality Adult Entertainment!
Date: 2/11/00 2:27:28 PM EST
From: cs@vividvip.com (VividVip Partner Support)
To: SgtYuck@aol.com, abuse@vividvip.com, host@vividvip.com,
admin@vividvip.com

Hi Sergeant Yuck,

Thank you for alerting VividVip to this clear violation of our terms &
conditions . This affiliate, who is new
to our program, will be terminated and not be compensated.

VividVip maintains a zero-tolerance policy in dealing with spammers.

Thanks,
VividVip
http://www.vividvip.com
[snip headers]
----------
Of course vividvip still will reap the benefits of the spam, but kudos to my 3
XXX white hats; vividvip.com, adultplaces.com (free XXX webspace, nuked a site
within hours on a weekend), and especially siccash.com, another affiliate
program, who were instrumental in getting an entire domain,
http://www.thehardestporn.com nuked. All the affiliate programs have TOS's
against spamming, it's just nice to find the ones who actually enforce them.

********************************

nice going Brad.


mutt Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get some of it with 50/50 Recurring!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:54:04 24.112.37.86 Post #: 6236




Oh check this out KB - another legal defense.

xpays promoted Celebrity sites, both real and fake ones. Yet we always here from cockhoslters that since these people are celebrities they have no rights. Thus people can sell access to non-copyrighted photos, altered photos, photos that put these celebrities in a bad light.

So now we turn our attention to Evan. Could Evan be a "celebrity"? Could Evan be considered a "public figure"?

Lets look around. He has his own radio show, he has his photos everywhere, oh and he was awarded the coveted "Pimp of the Year" award.

Therefore is Evan is a Celebrity or a "public figure" people have the right to make fun of him however the choose... just like Rush Limbaugh, Clinton, Bush, Gore, Brit Spears, Hillary Clinton, Pamala Anderson, etc... etc...

NO WAY EVAN CAN WIN IN A COURT OF LAW. TAKE IT TO THE BANK. Evan can only ruin and embarasse himself and those who are aligned with him both personally and professionally.


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:52:27 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6235


http://stripe.colorado.edu/~yulsman/Libel.html

Evan has a radio show. Evan is in AVN Online. Evan is a public figure.

I am no lawyer, but looks like this bitch better try running to mommy instead of court.

Goodbye.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:48:41 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6234


Is Evan a crakchead?

Who knows. I would like to see him go into a court of law and prove a negative. It is almost impossible to prove a negative.

Is Xpays a spammer?

Hell yes. I get e-mails from xpays all the time to email addresses that exist only deep inside websites on test web pages. Where in the world could xpays have gotten these email addresses from?

Is Evan gay?

Who cares what his sexual orientation is? NOBODY. Again, I say that to say that it harms him in the heterosexual internet community is bigoted and homophobic.

Mike and Brad and JohnIP will never publically apologize in my opinion and this thing will never see a court of law.




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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:48:25 4.34.164.23 Post #: 6233


Oh,
And dont interpret it as an invitation either...
Lights are off.
"He" is void listed in my vocabulary now.
Only 2 people are on that list.

So nuff said about the whole matter KB...
I noticed you mention the "CRACK THING" twice.
Please boy...
Please.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:46:56 64.174.156.146 Post #: 6232




Ed isn't the English Language great. From what I understand cockholster could also be a referance to a Vagina, or an anus.


Alien - this is scary you and I typed the same thoughts out at the same time. Get out of my brain!

When you have a chance alien you should share your C&D with the rest of us!
Mike AI Ready Set GO!!!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:46:55 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6231


"hahahahaha......that's moronic"

KB you can expect my C & D in the morning.

implying that I am a moron has irreperably damaged my reputation and my business and I demand to be compensated.


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:46:21 66.74.13.18 Post #: 6230


Since when did KB go to law school?

Libel, is VERY tough to prove. KB, why dont you explain to the class what has to be proven for a court to find libel has occurred and to issues a monetary judgment.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:44:25 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6229




The "he must be smoking crack" comment was taken out of context... Many people use statements like this not to signify actual smoking of crack, but to get the point accross that the statement or actions by a certain person is STUPID, like someone who smokes crack.

It is very common and have seen it on the boards and use it in my coversations as well.

some examples:

"KB I heard you fucked Houston, you must have been on crack"

or

KB: " My opinion Evan is going to win this case if it gets in front of a jury."

Mike AI " Evan you must be smoking crack."


So throw the whole crack thing out... Focus on what the C&Ds said.

Mine focused on Illegal Drugs, Homoerotic activities, and me saying that Evan and Xpays has poor business ethics.

Lets stay on point people.



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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:44:21 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6228


KB, spamming is easy. Go search the alt.spam newsgroups, plenty of Xpays spam for you.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=xpays&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&site=groups


Go back to work, and stop trying to defend the defenseless bitches.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:41:54 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6227


Me.

In regards to a crack reference.
A post that did not even mention his name nor company, yet was drawn to speculate that I was referring to him as being a "crackhead".

Crackhead is regarded as a slang term these days often at least by me and maybe many others...
It is synonmous with word Idiot on the street.

I accidently called him an idiot in some strange indirect manor.
Stupid me...
The apology was posted...
I spoke with em. It worked out.
Is he my best friend? NO.
Is he a friend? NO.

I know who is who and why he won't do business with us...
If ya ask me he is limiting himself.

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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:41:29 64.174.156.146 Post #: 6226


Ok gang - we've got some new "Pearls" and an a quasi-intellegible "Morons Say" for your perusal... No, KB - no "Morons" for Dig - typos don't count! ;)

And you know, I for one resent the fact that the word "Cockholster" has be given a homosexual taint by certain users... "Cockholster" means "mouth". As in "pie-hole". So "shut your pie-hole" means the same thing as "shut your cockholster". It has NOTHING to do with homosexuality, other than the implied inference of fellatio.

Edd save the cockholsters!!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:41:00 63.100.104.10 Post #: 6225


JMM so Evan is a "crack Head " and a "spammer" too?

I hope they have adequate proof of both of those things.

They obviously do not have any good evidence or they wouldn't be going to the board looking for scoop.

Now had they called him a "crack head" and saw him smoking crack first hand....ok maybe he'd go down but show me one person who has seen Evan smoke crack? No one, why? Beacuse he detests the drug and has lost friends due to it's horrible addictiveness.
as far as spamming....I hope you have screen caps, dates and times of spam originating from XPAYS...

I'd like to see those two things be introduced in a court of law, but you know already this will never go to court.

I have a feeling someone will pay out of pocket to keep it from going there though :-))
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:38:27 64.163.169.195 Post #: 6224


KB, I call you a homo, would you send a lawyer after me?

Doubtful, you would care a less because you know it is not true. Why does Evan feel the need to defend his sexuality? Makes you wonder.....

Think about it.

Discovery is a great thing, where shall we start?
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:37:57 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6223


KB...I think you have a better track record then that;))...but interjecting yourself in this fray probably isnt the best decision your made in a while....but do what you will.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:35:04 141.150.60.157 Post #: 6222


because when lawyers and CPA's look deep enough, they find things. I don't care if you're Mother Theresa.

How can Evan have a strong pimp hand if he can't take piss on the boards?


dig420 Ready Set GO!!!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:34:37 66.74.13.18 Post #: 6221


I want to know where JMM's C&D is????

JMM, is there something going on with you and Evan that the class should know about;-)
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:34:23 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6220




I was talking to one of my law school mates, one who gradauted in the top 10. He recomended that I start discovery now! Not only on Evan, and Xpays, but all those tied and alligned with them.

This would include you KB. Do you want to have to answer tough questions under oath about your business, about your personal life?

I told this friend that I am not the one escalating - I prefer to keep in in house, amoungst the adult community.


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:33:43 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6219


Let the record state that I am NOT speaking on behalf of Evan.

Evan can speak pretty well for himself.

The bottom line is Evan has never addressed your posts, I have never seen him debate any of this, the only person who has personally spoken to him was.........

and what happened on that call?
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:33:34 64.163.169.195 Post #: 6218


dig...if Evan admits that they are true, the court could not possible find in his favor.

Don't forget this part either...as Evans lawyer pointed out in the letter...actually he stated it one sidedly...I believe in a case such as this, the prevailing party gets their legal fees paid by the losing party.

Big big big big big can of worms!

KB, the fact that someone is not arrested for something, does not mean that it is not illegal. Marijuana is illegal...felony, misdemeanor, civil infraction, it does not matter, it is still illegal. Evans lawyer was very clear in stating that Evan does not use illegal drugs. Aside from the bigoted and homophopic statements made by Evans lawyer in the C and D to Mike, the drug statement was the most ridiculous part of the letter. Perehaps Evan lied to his lawyer, but the fact remains, Evan DOES use illegal drugs and therefore, Mike and Brad and John IP's statements are NOT libelous.

In any case of libel, there are quite a few defenses, but TRUTH is the biggest defense BY FAR.


JMM John IP, I am no idiot! these herbs make your dick hard!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:32:57 4.34.164.23 Post #: 6217


John..........

In this case I DO know what I am talking about for once :-))
KB John IP, I am no idiot! these herbs make your dick hard!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:30:36 64.163.169.195 Post #: 6216


KB, stop trying to speak for Evan. Evan has gone crying to everyone in this business like the cry baby bitch he is. Me, I am not worried. I say he has 1 year max left in this business before Xthreadz takes off and he becomes a runway model.


Bottom line is Evan is an idiot, do not bring yourself down by trying to defend him.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:30:32 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6215


I am sorry Dig I gave you too much credit not the FTC...

the FCC? what did he say the F-word on Stern or something....

hahahahaha......that's moronic
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:28:17 64.163.169.195 Post #: 6214


ask yourself before you post, am I being an idiot for a change or DO I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT :-))

Kb follow your own advice Bro
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:28:12 141.150.60.157 Post #: 6213




HAHAHA KB you are almost on the cusp of making a sounds arguement.

Trust me, EVAN has NO case against me. I have a J.D. hanging in my office... so this is my PROFESSIONAL opinion. I also passed the C&D to some of my lawschool friends and they after laughing a lot asked if I it was serious or a prank.

I am pramatic, if I thought there was a cause of action and I was worried I would have been the first to post an apology.

The PDF file is nothing KB, the information I have goes way beyond that, and even if the information is not that accurate - it does not need to be. I just need some basic direction on where to point my lawyers for Discovery.

So get back with your people and let them know I will not be intimidated, and that I see this as a joke that has gone to far... but if it gets elevated to another level, it will get ugly - the only people who will win will be the lawyers.


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:27:50 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6212


Dig care to elaborate why the FTC would get involved in Evan's business?

Do you know something about Evan's business that would warrant an investigation or are you making Libelous statements?

ask yourself before you post, am I being an idiot for a change or DO I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT :-))
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:26:56 64.163.169.195 Post #: 6211


so let's see..

even if the court holds that libel occurred for statements which Evan for the most part admitted are true, Mike and Brad get to pay a couple hundred dollar fine.

Xpays gets ripped wide open by mega-bucks webmasters and their attorneys and more likely than not, gets trouble from the FCC.

I like Mike's odds..


dig420 Ready Set GO!!!
Thu, 26 Jul - 17:23:59 66.74.13.18 Post #: 6210


You know the bottom line here is this.

Evan is a crybaby little bitch who can not go run to his mommy in this instance, so he runs to his lawyers.

Or maybe, he does not like deli meat?
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:19:29 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6209


Michael you are starting to make me proud, finally an intelligent discussion is coming out from all this.

Yes, a lot of people will hate being dragged into this.

Yes, people surely don't want their business scrutinized.

Yes, I believe Evan has a strong case and a mountain of evidence that cannot even hold a candle to a PDF file that was passed over by his company. Evan has NOTHING to do with IEG, if you can prove he is involved with them I'll write you a check for $1,000 today!

I have called people worse names, I have definitely flamed a few "cockholsters" in my day. BUt I am mellowing out with age, and making more money does make one happier :-)) I have nothing to really piss about these days. Business is great! I have girls everywhere, I have some $$$ in my pocket and the BEST friends in the world.

What could be so bad?

All I am saying Mike is I know you make a hobby out of pissing, I know you are hard -headed as well as I am.

But pissing just to piss doesn't hold water any more it did back when Serge was posting on YNOT, these days more people have to realize that "The only time a whale gets harpooned, is when it comes up for air".

I'd like to see all you whales hold your breath just a little longer....

and if that wasn't a pearl......I don't know what is!
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:18:14 64.163.169.195 Post #: 6208


Just wanted to bring a little peace and love to the board today. :)

Keep it Groovin'
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:17:25 64.166.186.18 Post #: 6207




Brad maybe they think like Bill Clinton they think they could get away with lying while under Oath...

I have collected some interesting e-mails about xpays, evan, ais the past few days. I would imagine my lawyers could spend years going through discovery. This would probably be interesting enough to get our own special on Court TV!


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:16:14 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6206


http://www.freshphotos.com/personal/smokeweed1.jpg

I can see it now.

"your honor, my clent Evan contends this is tabacco and not weed"
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:15:40 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6205


KB would you like to be supenoad in public about your drug use with Evan?

Food for thought.

And we may be talking more than just weed....
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:13:37 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6204




KB it is sad to say but some people in La. were arrested and convicted and the Suprene Court of the state upheld it for Sodomy...


Though Cali might have some liberal laws about weed, what about Nevada, Flordia, Louisiana?


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:13:02 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6203




KB the people who are alined with Evan are the people who would probably also get served in Discovery and have to put all of their business dealing in front of the public.

I serioulsy doubt if these companies want a public anal probe of every detail of their businesses. Most people in porn try to stay below the radar, escalating a pissing match to a lawsuit is not the way to do this.

KB you have pissed before, with many people - said many bad things, I do not remember any C&Ds going out.

I beleive I read about how Evan was calling Brad a narc for threatening to call police on Evan's party. Well if anyone is the narc in this case it is Evan who cannot defend himself or his business practices on the boards, he tries to bully people with LAWYERS.

If I was Evans partners and alliances I would be telling Evan to leave the lawyers out and let it die... I would not want lawyers prying through my business.


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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:10:23 63.100.104.31 Post #: 6202


KB, there are people in JAIL for weed in every state. Your argument is weak, hope Evan does not depend on your legal advice.

I am ready for discovery myself. The few PDF's I have seen are very enlightening.
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Thu, 26 Jul - 17:10:02 65.65.84.81 Post #: 6201