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Serge, I was a slow starter. I did not get interested in girls until middle of high school. I did not score, or even get to 2nd base until college. God Bless college girls! Mike AI
Are we gonna retry this case all day without the evidence?
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:25:19 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60899
I thought he plea bargained?If so he admitted guilt. Case closed. Nick
Colin I will go one step farther, I have NEVER in my life solicited sex with a 14 year old. :-)
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:24:08 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60898
Mike AI ******************* I think I was...and started doing it when I was 11, by 16 they were too young ;-))) Serge ![]()
Still talking about Lolitas I see...
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:23:24 208.61.44.30 Post #: 60897
anybody else has childhood memories to share? ************* Not unless we want to talk about real life Lolita sex. Words change meaning all the time as society evolves and the word Lolita is no different. Cleo (bio hazard) Is there a god? Far L, did you see the ID? Did you see ther court records? OR are you relying upon the self serving statement of TJay? Mike AI
MikeAI has never solicited sex from a 14 year old girl for a live webcam show.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:21:36 63.100.104.31 Post #: 60895
Colin ______________________ Colin I will go one step farther, I have NEVER in my life solicited sex with a 14 year old. :-) Mike AI
Far-L
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:21:28 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60894
I'm not trying to be an ass here - but where did you get the info on the id?? A court document? A news story? Could you point me in that direction please? Because I really don't see how, if that is fact, it didn't have one HELLUVA positive bearing on TJay's defense. What am I missing here? Snoops (Ð)
"It is a cautionary tale. I get it. I hope you all will do the same."
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:21:18 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60893
So, how will it affect the way you do business in the future? Monk
Snoops: The fact that it was a REAL ID is part of the reason he is not up on kp charges or serving a kp sentence.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:21:13 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60892
Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS REVENGE! Snoops, good post. I agree with you 100% Mike AI
Sabby, Mike AI, Monk, et al.: The point is that it was a REAL ID. It was not fake. She had a sex customer in the dmv who got her a completely REAL, GOVERNMENT ISSUED piece of identification.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:19:50 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60890
I hope this point is not lost on anyone here. You can all beat on your chests and grandstand that you would never do the same, but unfortunately, this could happen to anyone who shoots or publishes content. Period. It is a cautionary tale. I get it. I hope you all will do the same. Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS REVENGE!
Serge,
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:18:12 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60889
For the most part, your english is fine..... 'cuddling' just made me laugh, thats all. Monk
Finally got caught up on all this about TJay...
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:17:42 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60888
I don't know him from adam - although I do frequent AmateurMasters.... I don't know the whole story...although I have to agree about this fake ID thing. You'd *think* if there were one, it'd have come out in court/news...I am a former reporter, I know I wouldn't have missed that little detail. And it seems to me, that if there were a reasonably good fake ID involved, it would have definitely affected the case in TJay's favor. So, with the facts I'm aware of, I can't say I'm sorry he's going to jail. I know if it were my daughter, he'd be considering himself lucky. I think what bothers me the most however, is how so many are jumping to defend....our legal system DOES fail at times....that's a given. But I really have a hard time believing an "innocent" man got convicted this time. Especially with our business practices of getting ID for content. In the content arena, it's all about covering your ass - from proving models' ages to record-keeping. There's really no leg to stand on with "i didn't know" - he can say (if he did his work) that he was shown a fake id - he'd have copies of that, right? That little fact should have had quite a positive effect on his case if it were true. Lastly, I hope this girl is getting some help (and some good parenting) - because no matter what the real story is, I think it's obvious she has some issues that need handled. Mutt - Rick owns AmateurMasters - not sure what got him into amateur market <shrug> Snoops (Ð) ![]()
Mike, is this true?!!!!
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:17:20 24.164.20.236 Post #: 60887
MikeAI has never solicited sex from a 14 year old girl for a live webcam show. Colin
Monk,
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:15:58 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60886
if English was my first language... the world would be MUCH different, but... I have to stay within my boundaries ;-))) Serge
far-l, your opinion is worth what I paid for it.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:15:45 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60885
NADA Monk
Monk: You keep trying to explain what and why you used the solidly kp reference "lolita" unaware of its meaning. To me, you are making a very solid case for your stupidity when you do that. In fact, because even I am not willing to believe you are that stupid, I think you are full of shit.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:14:33 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60884
Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS REVENGE!
I for one would like to see a copy of this fake ID if there is one.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:14:31 207.34.94.239 Post #: 60883
Where's the scan? Sabby:) Sabrina ![]()
so he is not only coddling sex offenders, but cuddling with them too!!!??
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:14:07 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60882
hahahaha... couldn't resist, Serge. Monk
Mike,
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:13:43 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60881
For once I agree with you. See there are some things I won't do for money.I grant you they are few ;) Nick Go read the history books on the Lords case Far-l. Traci Lords was made up in her porn flicks to look like a woman. There were many in the porn idustry who suspected she was underage. Without makeup she looked like a 15 year old with a nice rack. I think Bill Margold is the guy to talk to about the Lords case. There was a great interview with him about 4 months ago. mutt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:12:18 208.181.212.140 Post #: 60879
SideKickGuru™
mutt,
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:11:46 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60878
""what's RickYNOT doing over there anyways........ what's his connection to the amateur porn world? "" ****************************** I would assume he is an amateur ;)) Nick ![]()
what's his connection to the amateur porn world?
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:11:18 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60877
**************************** I guess his non adult venture wasn't a raging success and now he HAS TO cuddle sex ofenders for a living ;-))) Serge Nick I have been making the same point for years. The cliqishness ( is that a word) of this industry is out of control. The go along to get along attitude is sickening. I could have made much more money if I would keep my mouth shut. Many people have tried to get me to be part of the clique, part of the in crowd, I guess I am too stupid. Funny some of my dear friends used to be just like me. Speaking up on issues, standing up when people were trying to pull the wool over webamsters eyes, some of them have now become corrupted, and becoming part of the clique. Guess it has something to do with money... Mike AI
Question for those that shoot content: Is it law and/or do you require 2 pieces of identification with one being a picture ID? Or if you only require 1 ID, must it be a picture ID and goverment administered? And do you take copies of the ID(s)? It seems if these simple precautions were made, proving the girl had a legitimate fake ID would be a cake walk and certainly brought up in the 6 month trial, but I'm seriously asking the opinion of the content providers.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:10:16 63.151.254.5 Post #: 60875
Peaches
Hell yeah my mom and dad called me Jean-Francois Laverdiere i am from Montreal and we have spoken on the phone in the past... Oh and on ICQ also ;-)
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:10:03 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60874
JMan ******************** ok, now I know who you are...there so many aliases sounding alike, I had no idea... Serge RickYNOT is balling out JMM for an impassioned anti kiddy porn rant while he coddles TJay? WTF? what's RickYNOT doing over there anyways........ what's his connection to the amateur porn world? mutt ![]()
JMM: Most mainstream models for adult clothes and products are modeling as "adults" well before eighteen due to their body type. That is reality.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:08:33 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60872
When I was 15 I dated a 15 year old that everyone thought was in her twenties and she would get hit on all the time by men much older. That is reality. Have you ever seen a Tracy Lords video from before and after she turned 18? If you could tell the difference, then you have special powers of telepathy and you are doing a better job than the US Government that issued her a passport and all the porn kingpins who hired her as a result. You often make wise points, and I have been impressed with your vision in the past, but on this I disagree. Mike AI: What are you going to do to make sure that a real and legitimate gov. issued id that is totally authentic proves to be held by a minor? It could happen to you or me or Brad or anyone of us... unless of course we all start shooting only lolita grandmas... Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN LOVE!
Mike...
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:04:45 208.181.212.140 Post #: 60871
Ref RickYnot... Tiger can't change it's stripes. Only what he want's on there, non confortational. What a joke. Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer)
Look,it all boils down to the "good guy,with some personal problems" thing.
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:02:47 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60870
If you are social,attend conferences, and uncomfrontational and you fuck up,you know for damn sure blondy will be orgainising a bloody auction. If you are not,you are sooo fucked ;)) Nick JMM being banned from Am Masters, I think that is the first time ever. I guess RickYNOT does not like any disenting opinions over there. I guess they will all join forces to coddle the criminal Tjay ( got it right this time!). Amazing world we live in. Mike AI
Mike you got mail ;-)
Tue, 26 Feb - 12:01:06 65.94.84.65 Post #: 60868
Oh and I also agree with you .. This Tjay should stay for a NO SUN vacation for a longer term. Apologies accepted. Serge you remember me now ;-P JMan ![]() Tue, 26 Feb - 12:00:54 24.147.73.216 Post #: 60867 Far L it went on a little longer, but I can appreciate the Devil' Advocate roll. My patcience with KP, and anything surrounding it is pretty low. Mike AI Jman, I read what happened on Netpond. I can only imagine my brain got mixed up. I am sorry for what you have had to go through. I am happy that thinks are ok though! Mike AI
"Your strident tone is starting to ring in my ears."
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:58:36 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60864
I suspect my posts seem strident only to you. If the girl gave a fake id, I don't understand why your first post made no mention of it. Instead you say he got screwed over by his employers. Perhaps you did not know all the info when you posted?? I would think the fake id would have been THE thing to mention. It would not be the first time you posted without knowing facts.... but I can only assume this is a normal way of life for you. As far as me not knowing that 'lolita' was a codeword for kp.... you can believe what you will. I have already stated what my views on this were. I had heard the term lolita referred in mentioning kp but did not know they had totally co-opted it and made it their own. After hearing differing points of view yesterday, I found out the difference. I obviously had some questions and that was the reason for my original post for opinions. If I was just out to make a buck, I would not have cared enough about the issue to ask. I hope you can digest this finally.... I know you have some issues. Monk
Mike AI: I am just as consistent as you are. You praise Cam for his sophistry of trying to rationalize Lolita domains as not appealing to kp'ers but you rail daily on CC bill for the same.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:57:36 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60863
I gave you crap that day just becuase you came on that board and insulted a lot of hard working people. When you explained your side, I felt compelled by your explanation and dropped it at that. I might have questioned your integrity but you answered the charge fair and square and I do not have the least bit of doubt regarding your sincerity. I would defend you against that issue if it ever came up again and you certainly made your points well during that time. You and I both would never market to a lolita domain. I was highly critical of Tjay and held him responsible. Where am I being inconsistent? I respect your opinion, though most times we stand on very opposite sides. I am not playing sides here. I am speaking my mind. You could probably send more sign-ups in an hour than all the traffic I get from my comrades on that board, so you might figure that I am way more trying to kiss asses here than over there, but as you know, I am not. Yes, I am full of contradictions, but I am very consistent in them at the very least. Make sense now? Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN LOVE! ![]()
Hi!
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:57:03 205.188.197.41 Post #: 60862
Yes Im back! Okey, I have a confesion to make, I've been a way for a while. I need money, oh ya you bet. Soon I will be back in business but it would help lots if you could send a $1 or 2 to me at the folowing address: http://www.womenbehindbars.com/profiles/af6022.shtml Amy AMYLINKS
Associating my name with KP... Man after what happen to my 4 year old last night... Man i get shills in my back.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:56:47 65.94.84.65 Post #: 60861
JMan
Thanks Mike for posting that, I am glad it is now archived.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:56:23 4.34.164.247 Post #: 60860
Rick removed my post a few minutes after I posted it. He also removed my reply to his post. It is sad. I hate to think that amateurmasters.com now openly supports convicted sex offenders. Maybe Rick will put my post back up after he gets married and has a daughter, maybe he will see things a little clearer. JMM (Oprano's Resident Satirist) Jman, I just sent you e-mail. I am sorry again! Mike AI
I don't know who you are either...
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:55:52 65.94.84.65 Post #: 60858
do you have a name? *********************************** Hell yeah my mom and dad called me Jean-Francois Laverdiere i am from Montreal and we have spoken on the phone in the past... Oh and on ICQ also ;-) JMan ![]()
You don't even fucking know who I am.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:54:49 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60857
JMan ******************** I don't know who you are either... do you have a name? Serge
Tjay - JMan ... Oh you are right, pretty similar nick ???
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:54:11 65.94.84.65 Post #: 60856
JMan
Oh shit sorry Jman, I meant Tjay.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:52:01 63.100.104.31 Post #: 60855
I do not even know who you are Jman, I will go and modify my post. This is a major issue and did not want to insuate it was you or confuse anyone. I fucked up in my excitement in posting. THIS is the ass clown I am talking about. http://chat.amateurmasters.com/public/ViewProfile.cgi?H=932 Mike AI
""this will be the first place I take you when you get back to Florida! ""
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:51:27 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60854
by then the Latour 2000 will be very mature and drinkable :)) ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaha Nick
This is from Amateur Masters, I have to post it here because RickYNOt is probably going to delete the post. The top one is from JMM, the second Rick!
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:50:05 63.100.104.31 Post #: 60853
________________ Well, I have to say the whole thing sounds fishy to me. Every single news story that I have read about this case does not mention anything about the fake id. You would think that would be an important detail that at least one reporter would pick up on. But there is not one mention of it anywhere. I am trying to get some independent confirmation of the fake id, but it just seems strange that the information does not exist anywhere. I have to also say that I am pretty fucking disgusted about the outpouring of support for Jason Thomson. I don't recall ever seeing a 14 year old girl that could pass for 20. Maybe they are out there, but I have never seen any of them. And before you start making post after post after post about how you have a neighbor, or neice or daughter that is 14 and could pass for 20, save it, I dont care and I dont buy it. A 30 year old, who solicits a 14 year old to have sex with him on webcam, or any other place, is a sick fucking individual and deserves to be in jail for more than a year. Take a look at your duaghters, your neices, your neighbors daughter and tell me how you would feel if the 14 year old girl was one of them. Pathetic how you all just jump in with support for old tjay without knowing what the fuck you are talking about. And this, coming at a time when a man has just been charged with murder for the kidnapping and murder of a 7 year old girl in San Diego. You wanna make a wager that she was sexually assaulted before he killed her? Just plain fucking sick. Tjay, I hope there is a very large cock aimed at your ass when you bend over to pick up the soap. I get even sicker when I think of the things that this CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER/SEX OFFENDER said about MikeAI because some people didnt get a link back from Amateur Index. MikeAI has never solicited sex from a 14 year old girl for a live webcam show. When I die and go to heaven or hell or wherever I am going, I sure hope they put me in the room reserved for guys like MikeAI and not the sick child molesting scum like tjay. I would hate to have to spend eternity with such a sick fuck. I'm out of here. [ REPLY | E-MAIL ] QuickComment: (3) [ Great Post/Agree - That's Interesting - LOL - Huh? / WTF - Don't Agree - Inappropriate ] 11:30AM pst, Tue Feb 26, 2002, IP: 4.34.164.247, Post #10762 [ Print Message | Set Bookmark ] RickM (9) of AmateurMasters.com. STATUS : ADMIN Posts: QC's: Visits: 369 170 1753 Response #25 sponsored by Naked Nicole Cash. Replying to: Post #10762 by JMM. What the fuck is your problem Jeff?? I've never been so pissed off about a single post in my 7 yrs of webmastering!! Your post is so disturbing and should be removed, but I think it's fair to let others see how cold hearted you really can be. It's came as surprising to me personally, because I know you and respected you. But that is just plain rediculous. If you guys want me to remove his post, I will... but I have a feeling a few of you would rather respond to it. p.s. I've seen PLENTY of 14yr old chicks who looked 20... and for that matter, a bigger handful of 20 yr old chicks who looked 14!! give me a break... [ REPLY | E-MAIL ] Mike AI ![]()
Damn are we still on this subject?
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:49:18 12.146.164.58 Post #: 60852
This has to be some kind of oprano record. R3K
far l, I think this is very noble of you. However on Amateur Masters you seem to be coddling Jman, a convited felon, someone who is not only a statuetory rapist, but also someone who deals in KP online.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:49:18 65.94.84.65 Post #: 60851
*********************************** Mike you have explaining to do... Oh abd Also apologies. You don't even fucking know who I am. JMan
Anthony,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:49:09 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60850
it was cooler, so we went inside and...the food got even better there and new wine list got better also. I still have garlic smell in my nostrills ;-)) this will be the first place I take you when you get back to Florida! ;-)) Serge
Monk: You incredible lack of grasp for the obvious is starting to be serious reason for concern here... first it was not realizing that "lolita" appeals to kp fans... now this. When are you going to get the following?
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:47:16 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60849
1. A brain 2. A conscience 3. A life His employers took the fake id and Tjay felt false security in his employers judgement. Do you get it? Have you sold your lolita domain yet? Or have you done the right thing and pointed it to one of the domains Serge suggested? Your strident tone is starting to ring in my ears. Stop your screeching and realize that you are not saying anything interesting. Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN LOVE! Damn drive from my house to the office and I have to read for 20 minutes to catch up! Monk you make a great point about Far L, he definately does not apply his lables evenly. To insinuate your a KPer for a lolita domain, then to stand up and give comfort to a convicted felon who had sex with a 14 year old on camera for the net. This is outlandish! To top it off, far-l you slammed me because my employees might have knocekd someone off a top 100 list unfairly. ( as it turns out I investigated and those people WERE CHEATING - no surprise, I have a great staff!) I posted I would take 100% responsiblity for it. Now you feel sorry for this CRIMINAL because his employers set him up... haha Guess its only me who takes personal responsibility! far l, I am glad you are here, and I appreciate your imput - but you really need to work on you consistency! I imagine you were pandering to the amateurs and the convicts on am masters because you rely upon them for traffic! Mike AI ![]()
Anthony,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:46:04 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60847
I always wondered why you and Nick were constantly at odds with LeeNoga.... now I know. You are right though... enemy for life. Monk
Serge,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:45:28 208.181.212.140 Post #: 60846
I miss Cafe Bellino! Were you in the garden, with the breeze just right, shut off from the rest of Boca? Thanks for thinking of me Mano! =o) I love that place. Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer)
JMan's name doesn't belong in this board?
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:44:59 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60845
Monk
BTW, Anthony,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:43:58 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60844
yesterday we were in Cafe Bellino and were thinking of you.... Serge
Jeeze,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:43:48 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60843
If girls have no problem getting fake id's, I would hate to have a job where I fuck girls for a living. How about you Far-L? Monk ![]()
This is one of the guys, Jman at AmateurMasters who was jumping up and down telling everyone how Amateur Index and I are such bad people. That I stold traffic.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:43:09 65.94.84.65 Post #: 60842
*********************************** Mike AI get your fucking fact straitas and please don't mentioin MY NAME where it does not belong ... WTF JMan
Far-L,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:42:55 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60841
and Anthony got it good for his enemy for life in similar situation...she was sentenced to work for Ron. Serge Tue, 26 Feb - 11:42:51 66.190.9.189 Post #: 60840
Now coming on a chat board near you
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:42:32 68.55.232.91 Post #: 60839
Webmaster True Confessions I once fucked an 18 year old girl ..... I was 15 at the time ;-) He he he No charges were filed and to the best of my knowledge no one was harmed ... except maybe the neighbors who saw me run out of her house and down the alley naked when her Mom came home unexpectedly Vick Well guess who's back in circulation ........
Far-L...
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:41:22 208.181.212.140 Post #: 60838
Take it from me, as I have stood and still do in Monk's shoes. You have made an enemy for life with him. Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer) ![]()
BTW, Colin,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:39:46 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60837
I was a mass murderer and Goat Molester in Russia, and I was only 12! I think I was a rapist too, but I don't remember now... anybody else has childhood memories to share? ;-))) Serge
Far-L,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:37:52 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60836
You have to be the most ignorant fuck I have ever seen on a board... and that takes some doing. Fisrst, you try to blame it on the fact that his employers set it up.... and then your excuse is that she produced fake id. Pick an excuse and stick with it. Monk
Just thought I'd share.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:37:46 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60835
Colin ***************** sure, sure, now you talking after the statues of limitations ran out ;-))) Serge
Serge,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:37:39 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60834
I relied on her employers guarantee that she was of age ;))) Nick
Just fucking with ya. ;))
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:36:13 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60833
Nick ****************** Nick, did you ask for Snoop's ID? ;-))) Serge (How do you spell CONVERSIONS?) ![]()
Monk: What could you possibly not understand? It is what I said it was. The employers are up on other charges.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:35:17 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60832
Now can you please get back in line while God is still passing out the leftover brains? Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN LOVE!
Maybe this is what damaged me and why I am a pornographer today.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:34:47 24.164.20.236 Post #: 60831
Colin
I had sex with a 14 year old girl.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:34:17 24.164.20.236 Post #: 60830
I was 18 and she told me she was 17. I didn't find out until 3 months later when she had her 15th birthday party. Surprise! I didn't ask to see her ID. Just thought I'd share. Colin
LMAO@Nick
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:34:09 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60829
Re-read the post....said nothing to contradict myself...just said your last theory sounds much better than your first :o) Thanx on the congrats tho :o) Snoops (Ð)
Sabby: There is no mention because that is just not as juicy a tag line in Ohio where he faces the charges.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:33:06 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60828
"Pornagrapher duped by teen" is never going to be as popular as "Pornagrapher dupes teen". Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN LOVE! ![]()
ok, just read that she gave fake id. Firstly, Far-L said it was his employers that fucked him over. Which is it?
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:33:04 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60827
Monk
How dare you lie to this board,Snoops!!!!! ;)))
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:32:45 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60826
It wasn't a merger at all,then!! ;)))) Just fucking with ya. ;)) Congrats on the bundle of cash though :))) Nick
If intent is where the moral/ethical issue lies, then anyone with a teen site of any kind is unethical.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:31:35 24.164.20.236 Post #: 60825
The most representative case of teen is about 16. Think of a teen girl. Do you think of a girl that is 18? 16? 14? Someone spends 7 years of their life as a teen. the mid point is when someone is 16. When I think of a teen girl, I do not think of a girl that is 18. 18 is not really a "teen" to me. 18 is an adult. Who is interested in "Teen" magazines? I would GUESS mostly girls between the ages of 14 and 17. Just to have a site that is a "teen" site is rubbing up against the same problems with intent that the bikini clad 17 year old girls sites are. If the fact that they are not teen, and I mean of the 16-17 variety, is not important, then I would suggest to everyone that they remove all suggestions of the word and try to promote the site as young 20 year olds. I agree that child porn is a problem but I think most of ya pornographers have gone too far in your definitions. At any rate, the majority determines mores so I guess I'm wrong in that sense. I do agree with Cam that the exact places where the mores run as far as age, etc is concerned are arbitrary. Why 16? 17? 18? Again, practicality determinds that we set it somewhere. In another time and place the laws and moral standards will be different. Given the past history of the world, we may even find that the law is 14 in the year 2190. Who knows? Colin dunno........possible that could happen but i think you can tell when a girl is borderline of age and then you gotta ask more questions and make sure. i don't get it, you are saying this guy was only a performer, what about the people who were employing him? Hope Rosecam booted them all off their network. You can't afford to have people who use poor judgement, as Sabrina says, the effects go beyond just them. You should know that Far-L, the Traci Lords case was bad for all porners not just those directly involved. mutt
LOL Thanx Anthony - how ya been? How's the new wife? (er, your marriage is not so new anymore is it? my how time flies! LOL)
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:30:57 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60823
Hope to see ya at a show again soon bud - I always enjoyed our um...discussions :o) hugs! Snoops (Ð) ![]()
I know nick.....i've been there twice! %-)
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:30:46 32.100.179.24 Post #: 60822
Thinking of moving there once I beat these charges..... I also think every american should at least visit there and then you will truly understand what FREEDOM really is! fear of the police and government there is very low....they allow you to make your own choices. CAM
Here's the difference Far-L.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:30:38 156.34.190.4 Post #: 60821
A guy fucks an underage girl, and you decide to ask questions first before you shoot your mouth off. A guy buys a marginal domain and asks opinions and you call him a kp-er. Sounds like you need to take some more of your meds. If the domain wasn't a marginal decision, there would not have been an 8 hour debate about it. I noticed you stopped saying I was 'pandering' to that traffic... at least you figured that much was wrong. Lastly, we know you just spouted off at me because you got your feelings hurt the other day and wanted to get back at me...you admitted it yourself. You spent the rest of yesterday backpeddling and asking people to like you. If your judgment system allows you to defend some guy that fucked a 14 year old, that speaks volumes about you. Personally, if I were fucking people for a living, I would be asking for id when any of the chicks were even marginal. I suspect the 14 year old was marginal at best. Monk
Cam: Thanks for pointing that out.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:29:44 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60820
Mutt: Satisfied? BTW, I bought an umbrella so you can find someone else to piss on incessently and uselessly... Snoops: ! (hugs) Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS UNITE!
Well, sounds better than your first theories at least :o)
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:29:41 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60819
You keep theorizing - I'm gonna get back to work before I get my ass so far behind again I can't surface to breathe. :o) Have a good one Nick :o) Snoops (Ð)
Stop it alllreaaadddy!!!
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:28:45 208.181.212.140 Post #: 60818
She's dead! She's dead! =o) On a serious note, Congratulations Snoopers! Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer) ![]()
Ok Snoops I will :)
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:27:43 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60817
"Maxcash gave snoops and tweet a bundle of cash and a long term management contract" warmer? Nick
Cam
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:26:24 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60816
""I'm facing 10-25yrs for weed charges..... "" I agree thats bullshit.Here in Vansterdam you get a Govt Grant :) Nick
Hmmmm, I suppose that would work Nick, 'cept for the fact I've had the job for the past 2 years :o)
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:25:59 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60815
Keep trying hon :o) LOL Snoops (Ð)
How come there is no mention of any fake ID in the news story.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:25:31 207.34.94.239 Post #: 60814
Were these live shows broadcasted via Carol Cox's Rose Cam? That is the cam network he's on. In that case his stupid "mistake" has affected more people's sites than just his own. Sabby Sabrina
Mutt: Get the court transcripts. She had a legitimate ID. She looked much older. She had prior prostitution arrests. Someone like that, or Tracy Lords, or Alexandra Quinn could do the same to you. It would not mean you were a kp'er, just that you let your guard down and made a terrible mistake.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:25:27 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60813
Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN PARADISE ![]()
Well......after a little reading, seems things are a
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:24:43 32.100.179.24 Post #: 60812
bit deeper and quite a bit different then simply "he had sex with a 14yr old girl"??? This 14yr old "apparently" gave fake ID etc and consented to the acts, along with other factors. Well, since we won't see her face we surely cannot state that it's impossible for him not to know? He was not officialy charged with any KP or rape or molestation charges. What FOOL running an internet business would knowingly have sex with a 14yr old on camera, in his members area??? Come on now.....you college educated boys can't be that easily lead? Seems like he's getting a year in jail? I'm facing 10-25yrs for weed charges..... yeh, we have a fair system.... ;) CAM Far-L do you just buy whatever story anybody tells you? What is this guy's story? mutt Tue, 26 Feb - 11:23:54 208.181.212.140 Post #: 60810
Ok,snoops,how about:
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:22:45 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60809
"Maxcash has bought weboverdrive,but given snoops a job" ;))) Ok,so I am a bit evil ;)) Nick
Monk: The big difference between his situation and yours is that he did not know what he was doing, nor was he trying to have anything to do with that genre, while you went and purchased a lolita domain and actively marketed to people looking for that content.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:21:29 12.228.49.169 Post #: 60808
Add to that, the fact that you tried to not take responsibility for your actions and pretend that lolita is not a commonly used code word for underage content in porn while he acknowledged the error and folly of his ways and accepts his punishment. Big differences if you ask me. I could go on, but I am just as bored with pissing with you as I am sure everyone else is too. Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKERS IN PARADISE ![]()
Nick - not a buyout in any way, shape or form - merger, joining of forces, whatever fancy phrases you want to attach to it...simply we partnered up with them to help us, help our webmasters, and benefit MC.
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:21:24 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60807
You know WO is tweet and my baby - and although we could use the additional resources for her "college fund" - we aren't ready to just let her go :o) So, works out for everyone concerned very well. I'm excited about it :o) Snoops (Ð)
guys,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:21:23 172.159.179.16 Post #: 60806
stop arguing fine intellectual points for a second and take a look at http://pusi.com we have the server we have bandwidth, we have the board, we have type ins and I have IDEA of turning it into a money making FREE site. do YOU have ideas? If you have IDEAS, we have an opening for 30% partner Serge (How do you spell CONVERSIONS?) Far-L wanna explain what you mean? The news article didn't have anything about him being just an employee. You are saying this guy was just a paid porn actor who showed up to do a paid job and the girl his employers provided for him to fuck was only 14. Is that right? sounds bogus but........ mutt
Todd,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:19:37 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60804
You are a businessman.I should have excepted all the business people found here from that mini rant ;)) Nick
Snoops,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:18:20 208.181.212.135 Post #: 60803
LOL Sorry for prying. A vested interest?Is that a merger,then.Or shall we cut to the chase and say "Maxcash bought weboverdrive" ;))) Nick ![]()
Nick,
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:16:45 12.224.183.110 Post #: 60802
everyone knows my opinion on Spamming, I could care less actually. just so minors don't get adult material, and there is a way for ppl to unsubscribe if they choose too. I get spam everyday via the us mail, where does it go, in the trash:) ------------------------------ I am vilified for spamming. sextoyking Promote glass sextoys and make $$$
LOL Nick thanx....
Tue, 26 Feb - 11:16:18 148.78.247.10 Post #: 60801
Hmmmm, more of a vested interest at least I'd say :o) Thanx for the congrats Todd :o) Snoops (Ð) |