age is a number, sexuality is human nature!
we have as a society placed a NUMBER on the sexuality
of "humans"! teenagers are humans.....is it wrong for
an 18yr old to have sex with a 16yr old? Is it wrong
for an 18yr old to look at pictures of a 16yr old
and lust for her?
sure....by law in most states it is, but how many
people here have broken that law?

when I was 18 I was chasing 16yr olds around, I would
bet most of you old fucks were too!

But of course everyone is APPALLED by thinking that
15, 16 or 17 yr old is sexual.....but as soon as she
hits the MAGIC number 18......we all want to fuck her!
HAHAHAHAHA.......do you know how funny that is?

I find it extremely ridiculous to think is such ways!

Mike, maybe we should ask some of the fathers of those
18yr olds your posting pictures of on the internet, totally
naked, showing their pussy, tits ass and maybe sucking a little
dick........ what
should be done with you!?? ;)

They are only 1-2yrs older than the 16 and 17yr olds that
everyone here is so adamantly opposed to being exploited!

So in closing.....I guess we can only exploit girls who are
over 18 and feel good about it!? anyone who exploits a
17yr old is super cockholster, scumbag, no good mutherfucker
who should have his balls cut off!

CAM

Ok..... it's a 2 parter... :P

hmmm.......I guess the next step we need to take
as pornographers is to have laws passed to stop
ALL under18yr old girls from going to the beach in
a bathing suit or bikini......no bikini's or thongs
for underage girls!!! HERE HERE!!
We wouldn't want any old perverted 18yrs old or
over oggleing our youngin's!


are you fucking guys nuts or what???
CAM

bpj,
that was a given!
;-)))
Serge

Mornin Oprano!

Just for the record (although I think it is already known), WTS (ACHdebit.com) has had a "NO processing for you!" policy for rape, kp, beastiality sites from day one!

Mutt: http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/


bpj Mo signups, Mo collections.... MO MONEY!

Serge,
See my last post.;)))
Torone

Cam,
I thought no subject was too touchy for this board.
Torone

Torone,
realy, this is the first time I see somebody shy to post anything
;-)))
Serge

Cam,

Please do.. cause I want to start promoting my new avs and this way I could promote it without serge noticing...

oh and since you asked:
http://sexyavs.com is the site..
chris/pornoman

AM, I hope you are not talking about why russians lost Olympics
;-))

this si THE ONLY touchy subject I know of late
;-)))
Serge

Way to go, Serge! That almost sounded like another pearl!
Torone

I'm treading lightly here since this subject is truly a touchy one... ;)
CAM

CAM, just shoot the load, everybody else do
;-)))
Serge

Shall I chime in?? I have a whole post written
that will surely get some panties in a bunch
this morning! :P
CAM

They aren't illegal; but the intent IS!
Torone
***********************

...and only court can determine if it is or it isn't...even though, we, the laymen,
DO KNOW,
and no layerish bullshit can change that
;-)))
Serge

Voodooman,
I agree. That IS a pearl!

Colin,
They aren't illegal; but the intent IS!
Torone

Colin,
in hte good 'ole days we used something like that for the SE's spiders:

You will NOT find Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler,
models on this site.

...and it was never disputed by above mentioned in court as copyrights violations or SE traps
;-))))
Serge

Good Morning Oprano
Meni (The Golden Tongue) Briana Banks 50/50 rev share

Serge,
Of course, I didn't mean that we should lessen our efforts in any way. Conversely, I was pointing out another target. We need to mount some sort of attack on them much as they have on us.

They ARE attacking us every day in movies, TV news and shows, and even on the radio. They are equating porn with kp while promoting kp themselves.
Torone

Colin,
it's so easy to work it in,
it's elementary...

1) Kycos
++++++++
insert in your opening statement:
I won't talk about cosinuses and kycosinuses, as they have nothing to do with subject on hand.

;-)))

2) Oprano
+++++++++++

as I said on Oprano...
WITH HUGE LINK TO IT
;-)))))
Serge

odds mean NOTHING when dealing with DETERMINATION
*********
Pearl?
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

How can we make any headway against kp if such a powerful medium is against us?
Torone
********************

Torone,
"bible belt" is formidable opponent also, which hasn't stop the porn on the internet.

so were britts in 1776

odds mean NOTHING when dealing with DETERMINATION.
Serge

Serge,

I'll have to work that in. :)
Colin Ask Colin about the definition of porn

Two questions ...

Is she clothed in every picture?
If she is, how is that porn?

http://www.peppercherry.com/

Pictures of 16 year olds on bikini's aren't illegal last I checked.

Colin Ask Colin about the definition of porn

Colin,
and link to Oprano too, of course
;-))))
Serge

Interesting board this am. As far as the one about the 16-year-old daughter, My parents tried to discourage me from smoking when I was 13.

I used to know Othal Brand. He was the Mayor of Mcallen for many years; and I installed a data dish on top of his building at Brand Produce many years ago.

Now, to the important subject. I despise kp, and report any site I see with it. My pet peeve is the Hollywood/TV aspect. They promote kids as sex symbols constantly. Look at Christina Aguilera (note corrected spelling), Britney Spears, Leonardo di Caprio, etc. They are blatantly cast and promoted as sex symbols. How can we make any headway against kp if such a powerful medium is against us?
Torone

colin,
use word "kycos" anywhere on the page and I'll point it to you
;-))

I don't care
;-)))
Serge

"By 1988, however, the number of residents had dropped to 300, and business firms had dropped to five. In 1990 the population was still recorded as 300."

- Lolita, TX
Colin 4 Free Bucks. no confusion.

HAHA! Confuse the fuck out of them!

BTW,
I keep http://kycos.com for the same reason, Lycos was sending the original owner C&D's and now they keep their mouth's shut,
no C&D for me
;-)))
Serge
Mon, 25
Colin My own brand of confusion.

I just spoke with Clay from Epoch,
and this si what he has to say:

We have a zero tolerance poplicy on beasty, kp, scat rape etc...
we will not even process for sites with beasty on exit console if we find it..

if someone were to post/e-mail us a site saying that we do then we would turn
off processing immediately.


I wish EVERYBODY got the hint from Epoch and Jettis

Serge

Thanks :))
Maqua Custom Feeder Sites

Troels,
I have pusi.com
;-))
Serge (How do you spell CONVERSIONS?)

Mutt:

http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

Does anyone here have some good lesbian domains for sale? If so, please contact me.

Troels

Thank God someone responsible owns that domain!

Timon

I screwed up the link:

http://www.childpornography.com

Webfather

This child pornography stuff is really getting bad. It won't change until it starts hurting in the wallet. It makes us all look like we engage and support this.

I put up a non profit site several years ago at http://www.childpornography.com]

Here there are links to report child pornography and other abuses of kids.

I am always looking for more resources to put there so if you have anything I missed....please lmk

I could even list those that TRAFFIC in this crap. I think the LEGAL RISK would be minimal. Let some ASSHOLE try to sue me for listing them there. They would be laughed out of court and then arrested at the same time.

Just an idea!

Webfather

Now that Goto is Overture what have they done with that Search Suggestion tool where u could see the number of searches for keywords?
I've looked all over their new site and can't find it.


mutt

Anthony, will call in the am...sorry, was busy making sure the pearl is really in the liver and it's not just a bunch of sand ;)))

Also, writing a couple new column for SetGo :) (well, had to finish Sykk Thoughts anyways)
SykkBoy

I am hot and bothered by the liver in the pearl of the orient.
****************************

What did I do wrong this time?? :-(

Timon

so, what did you say about Lolita domains and iBill?

http://www.dirtylolita.net/joins.html
Serge (How do you spell CONVERSIONS?)

Wonder if he will have his daughter on the net in skimpy clothes making money for CCbill when she turns 15?
******************************************

FYI,
16 years old daughter of Phillip Morris president was discouraged from smoking
(from Congressional Hearings)
Serge (How do you spell CONVERSIONS?)

hmmm, good ole Jezebel. Anybody around here read "Skinny Legs and All" by Tom Robbins? Very interesting take on Jezebel in that book.
titmowse Rules of Etiquette for an Unseemly Profession

I cant believe they don't shut down that whole sick childrens beauty pagent industry. It's child abuse, borderline kiddy porn, and worst of all the perpetrators are the poor kids/victims' parents. The older girls who get trapped in that world are bad enough.

Can't they just wait 12 or 13 years before ruining these girls lives? There's plenty of time to teach girls that their worth is based on their looks, let's just give these poor things a few years to maybe build up some trust and self esteem before the real world hits em in the face with a frying pan.

Voyeur Dorm Here To Stay Wins Last Battle!

http://www.opranoplus.com

Porn Spammers Find Quirk In Media and Real Player


mutt

Sykkboy,

Call me, Call me, Call me. On my cell, prob in the morn, I'll be up a bit west coast time. Feel free to try.

I am hot and bothered by the liver in the pearl of the orient. Fuck, did I use the right code words? Ahhh, fuck it.

I will need it within 48 -72 hours. Can you deliver?

Call me, Call me, Call me.


Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer)

mike..nothing like KP and the bible to kill a party:)
grimm (Blow Me)

this is a good one... "if you dont know, teach!"

"The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible."
- Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.)

JR

"You can't just let nature run wild."
- Wally Hickel, former Alaska governor
JR

Hi Mike :) Just lurking...
RRRED Wegcash / Join4free

"Sure, it's going to kill a lot of people, but they may be dying of something else anyway."
- Othal Brand, member of a Texas pesticide review board, on chlordane.

JR

"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl."
- Joe Jacoby, NFL Football player, of the Washington Redskins

"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too."
- Matt Millen, NFL Football player, of the Raiders

JR

Grimm I think we chased everyone off.

Did get a few e-mails though! :-)


Mike AI

"I didn't realize I was in a Buddhist temple."
- Al Gore, former U.S. Vice President when asked about his illegal fundraising activities that took place in a Buddhist temple.
JR

There still remained Jezebel, the widow of Ahab. When Jehu entered the city of Jezreel, Jezebel said, "Was not even Zimri, the traitor who killed his king, entitled to be buried in a grave. Then, I am entitled to be buried in the ground, too."

But the Prophet Elijah had said, "Jezebel will not be buried in a grave. She will be fed to the dogs."

Jehu said, "Throw her down." Jezebel was thrown down. She was trodden under by a horse's foot. Her blood was sprinkled on the wall. Jehu said, "Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her, for she is a king's daughter."

But, when they went to bury Jezebel, they found that there was nothing left of her. They found no more than the skull, the feet and the palms of her hands. The rest of Jezebel was gone. (2 Kings 9:35). The Prophet Elijah had said, "In the portion of Jezreel shall dogs be eat the flesh of Jezebel. And the carcass of Jezebel shall be dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, This is Jezebel." (2 Kings 9:37).
grimm (Blow Me)

http://www.peppercherry.com/

HOW IS THAT NOT CHILD PORN?



grimm (Blow Me)

If anyone is interested in trying to put some pressure on those responsible for making these sites profitable. Please contact me in e-mail. I have a few ideas that are completely legal of course!

michael at oprano.com
Mike AI

http://www.peppercherry.com/

a virgin with fake tits, like an angel with cardboard wings:)
grimm (Blow Me)

yeah Slav some girls are more sexual then otehrs...

http://www.almostnudeteens.net/promo.html

Nice banners... you can join their webmaster program with ccbill!
Mike AI

http://www.peppercherry.com/mdreports.htm

I think I have seen it all now!


Of course peppercherry does not use ccbill, but rather ibill.


Mike AI

Slav some are defiantely worse then others. I went to a few of the super sites, more then one model and they have slogans on the tour like...

"All models UNDER 18"



Mike AI

this morning i was surfing an affiliate site and ended up at a toplist advertising 4-15 year olds

i started the day off with a sick feeling and this just adds to it.

why the fuck is the government spending so much time trying to ban porn with consenting adults when this kind of shit is still legal?!

cj (vaginator) $70 FREE signups, all day every day!!

http://www.crushphoto.com/main.htm

http://www.crushphoto.com/Main/Preview-Jez.htm

Wonder how old Jezebel is?

http://www.crushphoto.com/JoinPage/JoinPage-new.htm

I guess I could spend literally hours finding these sites, all processing with CCBill, all with webmaster programs admined by ccbill.

FUCK CCBILL and their owners. On the record, I will NOT work with CCBill on anything until they get away from their scummy ways. I will not go to their parties, I will not have anything to do with Ron or anyone else.


Mike AI

ok now i gotta ask
is there really anything wrong with this site ?
http://www.adrianne-model.com/samples.asp
ok yeah its targeting the guys that like to look at young chicks, but it seems to be done in good taste and not sexualized. from the tour it doesnt look any worse than the teen magazines on the newsstand. Are convicted sexual felons prohibited from buying those mags ??

but when its on a thin line to being softcore porn and the girl is 16, (like kirstensroom.com) or the wet tshirt contests with underaged chicks, thats pretty sick.



Slavdogg

BTW,
as for processors, youll notice
that globill, ibill, ccbill, and some others are used here.
voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

CJ we are on the same page babe. I wonder what people down under would do with scumbags like this?

I wonder how much business ccbill is making off of these sites, beasty sites, and all the other garbage out there!

I have taken down all of my sites with ccbill, and I encourage others to do so as well. Stand up, obviously my rehtroic does not phase them.

If you host with cave creek, leave them! Go to Candid Hosting, or xxxhosting, or mach 10 hosting.... or see Sweet T, I am sure he would hook you up, and I bet he does not host these kind of sites!


Mike AI

http://teenrave.org/

On the left hand side, starting
at Indv girls, all the links
here go to pics that are just
like modelshowdown, and even
has the trueteencam girls
in it. Check it out see what
you think but I think its
crossing the line. Some
are clearly of age, but
some clearly are not.



voodooman (Nobody is BEEFIER than me!)

Mike, that site is really pushing it. she's a beautiful young girl, and a modelling site is a great idea for young models. but why the close up butt pics and the head shots with bare shoulders?!?!?!? i just looked at her yahoo groups homepage and there is something like 1400 members ... how many do you think are pedo's.

GRRRRRRRR


cj (vaginator) $70 FREE signups, all day every day!!

http://www.modelshowdown.com/sdpics1.html

This girl goes straight nude. Now she may be 18 or over, but advertising nude girls with underage ones is not kosher!


Mike AI

Unbelievable! Whats wrong with these girls parents?
************************
That's what I don't get. The only thing I can think of is pure greed, but this seems even past that.

Peaches

i was thinking 'gee, i miss oprano, i can't wait to catch up on what's going on at my favourite webmaster board'

FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!

:-)))

cj (vaginator) $70 FREE signups, all day every day!!

I can't believe what these non-nude sites are doing. It's amazing.

Slav, that url you posted, it just proves once again that this world is full of sick fucks.

Unbelievable! Whats wrong with these girls parents?

*Shakes Head*

Headless Take it to the max! MaxCash!

hey Slav this girl is 14

http://www.adrianne-model.com/

Guess who she processes with?

Now this makes me wonder. All of these sites bill with ccbill. Why would this be? you would think just based on percentages someone would use IBill, or Epoch, or Jettis?

But then maybe there is a reason for that? Maybe IBill, Epoch and Jettis draw a line in the sand and do not pander to these people.

Can anyone from these companies tell me their official stances on these sites?

Surely they are not all with ccbill because of their good conversions, or friendly helpful customer support. Maybe the little girls like the idea of zombies servers.


Mike AI

hey Slav, who processes for that young girls site?
Mike AI

Maybe Willie Nelson needs to make a new song...

Momma's don't let you babies grow up to be 2 bit hookers...


Mike AI

Just like I stumbled unto the underground of kp last week, well there is an entire world of non-nude teen sites.

http://www.modelshowdown.com/

http://www.modelshowdown.com/ttcpics.html

Check out the wet t-shirts and other crap.

Also notice on the orignal site all the referal codes! It seems ccbill is also managing their webmaster programs.


Mike AI

Mike, that photo17 site is not as bad as the site they ahve on their links page.

well see for youself...
http://www.kirstensroom.com/previews.html

keep in mind she's 16
Slavdogg

These kids pagaents are an amazing scam. Basically, they offer a $10,000 scholarship as first prize. They usually charge around $500 to enter and they get about 50-60 young girls. Then they put the word out too the sicko community and they charge $5 - $10 entry fee to watch. While the proud, yet misguided and stupid, parents watch their daughters prance around on stage there is a couple hundred perverts watching as well.


Ulfie

http://www.photostudio17.com/preview.asp

This guy has these girls posing the SAME exact tease poses I have my models do!

Of course the differene is my models are all over 18!


Mike AI

Between tonight's news and the HBO beauty pageant show, I really wonder what goes through the minds of these mothers (and fathers). On the HBO show, the mother actually bragged that people said her daughter looked like Jon Benet. If the crap they showed tonight was legal, then some laws need to be changed :(

Peaches

Tony that is a great article.

Notice who processes for all these scumbags?

http://www.photostudio17.com/join.asp

Wonder how Caldwell was able to adopt? Wonder if he will have his daughter on the net in skimpy clothes making money for CCbill when she turns 15?


Mike AI

ROFL....maybe he spent it all defending this....

http://www.nbc5.com/unit5investigates/1189486/detail.html


--T


SweetT NationalNet

A little more snooping around shows that the Gary Smith that they potray in this interview is also the one that runs Molly's site....

http://avn1.avnonline.com/issues/200110/corecontents/cc1001_02.shtml


You know what is *really* funny....they showed the dude at his house....it looked like a "project house" (thats what we called them....Government subsidized housing)....small, one br, red brick, small front porch.....hard to explain in writing, but you would know it if you saw it. Yet all these girls are making huge dollars then why can't this guy afford a house????

(and why is he in Jefferson, Georgia???)


Amazing....


--T


SweetT NationalNet

kinda sucks... if i want to drive a car... i need insurance, training and legal permission to do so.

if i want to raise an ax murderer, the door is wide open and there is no shortage of people that will protect my right to do so.

JR i really have nothing better to at 7:45 am :-(

My mother owned a bridal store and the first people she decided to stop doing business with were "pageant people". These people are completely screwed up in the head. They march their little 10 year old in and want to dress her up like a slut because they think they are going to make her the next Christina Agulara. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the fathers of these pageant kids aren't kp'ers. It's really sick the way the want to see their daughters whored up.


Ulfie

Sweet T, Peaches that has to be one of the sadest things I have ever heard. This woman should be hung, and her child taken from her.

She would be the first one crying if some sicko who she paraded her daughter in front of molested her or something...

Freakin scumbags, pimping their daughter for $$$!
Mike AI Niche Amateur sites paying out up to 80%

Sweet T: Chilling. The name Ramsey comes to mind.

Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKER's DIE FAST, DIE YOUNG!

http://www.oprano.com/picture12.html

This is a great photo, perfect for the ARS Caption Contest!

Time to let CJ have it!! :-)


CJ I still love you!!


Mike AI Niche Amateur sites paying out up to 80%

DantheMan, I am not sure about hoops at the boil, but I bet there will be some softball....

BTW we had a game today, won by 20.. team is starting to gel and play as a team!



Mike AI Niche Amatuer sites paying out up to 80%

Peaches...

I saw the promo for that this weekend and have TiVo recording it all week...never thought I would have heard about a County Commissioners daughter doing it....when they asked her what she thought about the dude being a molester, the Mother said that since hearing that they have decided to just do the web site on their own and cut him out of the site altogether.......thats what we need to be teaching our kids "No, its ok if you do this, just cut out the middle man"

Now...with all of that said, let me add that I think the news is being irresponsible.....in about 5 minutes I got the Moms Name, Address and Phone Number at home and found this pic of the daughter:

http://www.bethanysalem.org/2000%20BP%20Pictures/teenmiss2000.htm


The title of the news story is "Innocence Lost".....quite fitting if you ask me.


--T


SweetT NationalNet

Boneprone, JesusHitBod sucks. My HitBod appreciates (that's SPASIBO) high payoffs from JesusDialer.
Euro

Oh goodie!

I visit the board to find another fight...

Hello Serge !

Sexy boy !
Smartie Panties Here is Monk's new HOUSE

just watched the Nolan richardson(arkansaw coach) interview on espn,
he pulled the race card quickly....very interesting.

dantheman

Speaking of CP - they just had a news story here: There's a website with nothing but 13+ year old girls in VERY suggestive clothing run by a convicted child molester. They show the girl's REAL names, ages, and the pervs can email them. They interviewed someone from the FBI Task Force for CP who said there's absolutely nothing they can do about it - nothing's illegal. A parent of one the girls is a councilwoman who said she saw nothing wrong with it and it's a way for her daughter to get modeling jobs and to make money.

Made me want to puke and get that poor girl away from her greedy stagemother :(

Peaches

Hi Cleo,

doing just fine. got back last night from closing on my new house in beautiful central or. How are you doing??
--------------------

Mutt, read through the weekends posts, we would of donated if I had of known?? was outta town, and only checked laptop 1 time per day.. need any prizes again, just ask.:)
sextoyking Promoting glass sextoys makes you good $$

Hi Todd, how's it hanging?

Cleo (bio hazard)

Caption Contest results are in, and our 11th winner is Maqua! Congrats!! And to keep things going, we've got a NEW sponsor - http://ampcontent.com - for the next contest that starts NOW! So get your ass over to http://www.oprano.com/caption.html and LET THE PITH FLOW!!

(notice I was sure to get this done before CJ got online today.... I hope she's not too cross!)
Edd (Opranautical Engineer) I've really gotta PITH!

Eve. Oprano,

what's been happening??
sextoyking Promoting glass sextoys makes you good $$

Serge: Maybe one day I will say something pithy enough to be included there...

...until that day... I can only dream...

Far-L Far-L returns in PIG FUCKER's DIE FAST, DIE YOUNG!

stallion, i hadn't seen that, i like the ruling though.
dantheman slam dunk

Dont know if anyone else posted it but its official

Supreme Court Refuses to hear Case against Voyeur Dorm.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,50656,00.html
Stallion

Lolita, TX
Zip code 77971

Cleo (bio hazard)

damn, hurts when you get the shit beat out of ya team, got spanked by
35:( THEY did not miss...was hitting from NBA three and beyond....amazing
game to say the least. me 5/21, tryed to shoot out of it:)
team didnt say much to me when they left:/
damn, monk and far-l still going at it, thought that might die down, oh well


mike,any hoops at the boil?


dantheman slam dunk